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 Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 5:22 pm
how does one minister to a cutter? i mean, I have done it myself, and yeah, im over it...and i dont want to get into my own life here, but having been one, and having read the bible a lot, i have seen things against suicide, but not cutting. does anyone have more knowlegde than me and can they tell me what to say to others? i mean, i could testify, but me not cutting wasn't a minsitry moment, it was a my parents caught me. which was their own fault..again, not into my past.
i just dont know what to say to people who do it, and how to tell them its wrong. i can go on about not killing yourself, but just cutting holes in your arm? whats the big deal biblically? or is there even one?
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 2:28 pm
You could remind them of the people who love them and do not want to see them get hurt. That always works for me. And it worked on me also. Sometimes it might not work and you need to think of other things to say. Like, if they are Christians, tell them they are not only hurting themselves, they are hurting God and that God can help them.
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:41 pm
Well, I've never cut, so I'll keep this brief.
I once heard someone say "If you've gotten over a difficult problem, sometimes its best to avoid helping others with the same problem." It goes along with that whole thing about not going to minister in a bar if you are a recently recovered alcholic, for you might fall right back into your old ways surrounded by such familiar things.
That being said, I also know that sometimes its impossible to avoid ministering to people who have the same problems you have (or had). I have to agree then that love is the best remedy for these sorts of emotional issues. Stretch out and love the person as best you can, and if your love isn't enough try maybe to get that person you are lovin' on to someone who is better able to help them.
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 11:42 am
Your body is a temple of God. Shouldn't you take care of it? This even goes for smoking, drinking, and cutting. I've never cut, and really see no point in it, but one of my athiest friends does.
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Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:11 pm
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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 2:58 pm
I used to cut when I saw younger, I did it because it was a cry for attention. I was never looked or loved upon by anyone, so I decided to take things into my own hands a was sent to an Insilum (spelled wrong). One day your friend will tell the wrong person that thry cut themselves and they will end up the same as me. You say you were a cutter yourself, I never really have found anything in the bible that has effected me to a degree to make me stop. I stopped on my own without God, because I realized the people around me cared for me and that was brought out by my foolish actions. Honestly, some text book can't change human's actions. It is the people around you and the feeling that come from them that change things, the words you say can be their life or death. So if they don't believe in God, don't tell them about him until they get better. Tell the person what you wanted to hear when you were a cutter. I have saved many lives and changed many people by telling them what I wanted to hear when I was in their shoes. There are answers all around and you are the only one who can find those answers, it all comes with time, and wisdom. Try meditating, it helps alot.
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Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 6:02 pm
Honestly, I'm not sure myself because I am a cutter. I dont know why, im just obsessed with scars and bloodshed. I already have a symbol scarred onto my upper arm. sad
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 1:16 pm
I do too. It's just like a drug, once you do it and get hooked you can't stop. That's why they throw people in isalums for it, I can't spell sorry.
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:00 am
I agree with both Shadowwolfseeker and Crimson_Enigma. I am a chronic cutter and no matter what I've tried to keep myself from cutting, I always seem to go back to it.
It is wrong though. The Bible states that our bodies are the Temple of God and as such we should care for them, as Lycangirl stated.
It isn't always that easy though and I sure as hell don't speak for every cutter out their, but sometimes it's good for you to be able to talk to someone who knows at least a little bit about why you are cutting.
I made some stupid mistakes, telling people who I thought I could trust and when they betrayed that trust, I went right back to cutting, only it would be worse. It has taken me a very long time to be comfortable with peopple being within three feet of me and if someone got close it was kind of like a trigger for me to cut. It sounds weird, but that was just my mindset.
*** I just notice how much I'm writing. If you are still reading this, I'm gonna try to let you understand my point of veiw. Ok?***
I have found that because I cut, it causes other Christians to be wary of me. This is understandable, but it should not be the case, because, as Christians we should be reaching out to those who are hurting.
It is true that people get sent to asylums for cutting, but I don't believe we should lock people up because they are hurting. If they are suicidal, however, then there should be someone who is experienced in handleing those types of situations with them 24/7.
I can't think of anything else to say right now, but I am sure I'll be back.
If anyone wants to talk with me about cutting; whether you cut, someone you know cuts, or if you are just curious, please feel free to PM me. I am a great listener and would be glad to help you if I can, also you would be doing me a favor by giving me insight into your points of veiw.
Thanks Bunches. wink
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 2:53 am
Those who haven't cut before just don't understand. I do think it is wrong. God never wanted us to harm ourselves, he loves us, and doesn't like to see us in pain. I am ashamed to say I have stopped recently, but whenever I break down or become depressed, it is always the first thing I go to. I honestly make myself sick sometimes. Whenever I became depressed or I break down, I will run and get my knife. I recently gave my knife away to my boyfriend, today I broke down, then went running through the kitchen trying to find anything that would do desent damage. I was on the phone with a friend luckly. I turned on some depressing music, not the best thing to do, then I just held the knife in my hands. I was just staring at it. I started shaking, an inner war was going on inside me. I could sense demons around me, just taunting me. My head started to spin and buzz with all these thoughts and sounds. I heard demons, so I am guessing it was them. I just grabbed my head and sat there, crying, trying to make the pain go away, the longing to get rid of my pain. I just couldn't hurt myself, I rebuked, and the demons went away. My friend helped me alot, without him, I would have probably hurt myself. I don't think he knows what happened, I hope he never knows, it just makes me so ashamed.
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:56 am
Cutting is a touchy topic, I've found.
I used to do it obsessively- couldnt go through half a day or less without doing so.
The Lord is what helped me through it. No medication could do that for me, even if that what the doctors say..
I try to think of it from an artist's point of view; the ultimate artist actually.
When a painter has an idea in his/her mind of what the painting will be like, he/she decides which kinds of paints to use, which colors, and what kind of tones it will be in (lighter or darker). There is almost always some kind of history behind it- usually something that strikes an emotion. The painter will take as much time as he/she needs to finish the painting, and wont stop until he/she is satisfied; making it just as they planned, or better. He or she may have dedicated it to one specific person.
The painter will decide on if he/she wants to show the painting to others- and if he/she does, when and where, how long, and who will see it.
Say that the painter decides to put it in a smaller gallery in a small town. After it is put on display, people come and critique (sp?) it, tell the painter what they think of it (whether they are telling the truth about it or not), and tell their friends what they thought of it.
One day the person whom the painting was dedicated to comes to take a look at it.
He/she cant stand it. Its the ugliest, most worthless piece of artwork he or she has ever seen. He/she is embarassed that it was made for him/herself. The person takes the painting and throws it against the wall. He or she then takes out a kn*fe and starts shredding it. The person throws his or her drink on it- causing the paint to run off onto the floor. He or she leaves. This person comes back everyday, doing the same thing to it over and over again, until it is so broken and unrecognizable that the picture must be taken down from the gallery and thrown away.
The artist is heartborken. "I worked so hard on it. I'm proud of what I made. I made it just for him/her- so that they would know how much I cared for them. I used his/her favorite colors and mediums, but he/she just despised it."
The artist waits for the person that he made it for to come, and has a long talk with him/her. They get to know each other more, and the person whom the painting was dedicated to starts to appreciate what the artist did for him/her. He/she asks the artist to make a new one, and the artist does.
This painting takes even longer to create than the first. It is on a much larger canvas, with more bold colors and inviting tones. And when the painting is finally finished, he puts it in the largest gallery, in the biggest city, where everyone comes to enjoy it. The picture is sent all around the world to be placed in the most exalted galleries, and when the person who it was dedicated to d*es, the picture goes down in history as one of the greatest paintings ever made.
(sorry that was reallllly long)
Just think about God as the painter, and the cutter as the one who is was dedicated to.
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Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 1:27 pm
i used to cut,i wasnt receiving help with mental health problems which were the result of serious bullying.the cutting released the pain.with help of friends and family i stopped. xd what cutters really need is love-so give some love! heart
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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 1:50 am
I am not sure of the exact verse or whereabouts in the bible.
but is is something about how Mutilation of the body is sinful. And cutting IS mutilation no matter who says it isnt. i myself used to cut. not deep. just enough to hurt a little. but i learned how it was wrong and now i dont. basically my advice is this.
If you are going to talk to someone about it ask them why they do it. Offer to talk to them about their problems. Try to gelp them come to an understanding that it isnt healthy and try to get them to realise that it isnt good. Keep in mind there is an enormuos chance that hey are depressed and cutting CAN lead to suicide. They may need therapy. and if so try to be there for them and offer to support them. Love them and dont let them fall again. also just be there for them. it makes a difference.
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 6:16 pm
DeanWinchester how does one minister to a cutter? i mean, I have done it myself, and yeah, im over it...and i dont want to get into my own life here, but having been one, and having read the bible a lot, i have seen things against suicide, but not cutting. does anyone have more knowlegde than me and can they tell me what to say to others? i mean, i could testify, but me not cutting wasn't a minsitry moment, it was a my parents caught me. which was their own fault..again, not into my past. i just dont know what to say to people who do it, and how to tell them its wrong. i can go on about not killing yourself, but just cutting holes in your arm? whats the big deal biblically? or is there even one? you need not say anything, just love whats the big deal biblically? im so going to get flamed for this but whatever its social controll a minion who takes their own life is one less sword on the field of battle
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:51 pm
i haven't been on here in a while...
and...i've gone back to cutting several times..and...i still ..i just... i can't find the answers i need.
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