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 Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:42 am
I think I've probably already made a similar thread here in the somewhat distant past, but we have a lot of new members since then, plus my reason for making this thread is largely based on a revelation I've recently had about myself regarding this topic.
Like most of my threads, this starts with a story from the wild and wonderful life of yours truly. Except this story is neither wild nor especially wonderful, so you'll just have to take my word that the rest of my life is awesome, mmkay?
I finally started watching The Walking Dead, because it seems like everyone and their dog is in love with it, plus Bear McCreary composed the score, and ever since being exposed to his work in the score of the re-imagined Battlestar Galactica, I've pretty much fallen in deep love with his brain.
And towards the beginning of the show, I realised something: violence against animals affects me far more profoundly against violence against humans. *spoiler alert* When the main character first rides the horse into Atlanta to find that the city is overrun with zombies, and they take down the horse and start tearing into it...I actually had to look away. And it left a lasting impression on me even after the fact. I found it far more disturbing than any of the (substantial) violence against people (or people-shaped zombies) in the series.
It's not like I'm some sort of crazy animal rights person. I eat meat, I wear and use leather products without a second thought, etc. But I would describe myself as an animal lover. I love my cats, and my horses, and when I had rats, I completely adored them as well.
So it does make sense and it doesn't, I guess.
Anyway, share your feelings about anything related to "adult content," whether it's sex or violence or both, in all kinds of story-telling media.
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Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:09 am
I'm the same way. I can't watch an animal or a child die in a movie. The death of human adults and 'mercy killing' I can somewhat handle as long as it's not gratuitous. Even then I don't prefer it. I realize art is supposed to hold a mirror up to nature and that those kinds of things happen frequently in real life, but I watch movies to escape reality, not have it paraded in front of my face for the sake of entertainment. I think it probably has to do with a fear of judgment and perceived innocence of the characters. Whatever the case, it's not something I'd like to get used to. confused
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High-functioning Werewolf
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Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:12 pm
I'm alright with some sex scenes and nudity I guess, but not pornography exactly; it's just not for me. But I can handle some violence, but not too much. I'm kind of squeamish. I hate blood and guts. I could handle Lord of the Rings and the few episodes of Game of Thrones I've seen, but a lot of the crime dramas my mom watches, like Law and Order and Criminal Minds are too much for me. When I was young and couldn't sleep I saw Gangs of New York, that was waaaaaaaaaay too violent imo. Even my boyfriend Leonardo DiCaprio couldn't make me like it. But to be fair, I did see it when I was around six or seven, so obviously I was too young for violence or to be in love with Leonardo DiCaprio, so I might like it now.
Then again, I might not, because I saw it with my parents, and even they agreed there was too much violence.
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Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:27 pm
Funny you should mention The Walking Dead...at the time, the horse's death was the deal breaker for me; I told myself "if the horse dies, I refuse to watch the next episode"; sure enough, I didn't make it past the pilot. Zombie flicks/shows don't really appeal to me anymore (let alone TV in general). When it comes to sex and violence, I'm like "yeah, yeah, get it over with, back to the plot development please". Though, I can't recall anything I've watched within recent years that had a sex scene in it. Violence-wise, I still have less compassion for the human beings; going back to zombies and the humans in those movies, it is their free will choice to drive into town and get eaten, sacrifice themselves for others, or stay in the house and get eaten. Children suffer the natural consequences of their parent's choices, sad but true. In The Walking Dead, the horse's situation was different: he/she was doing just fine on its own, grazing out in a field, surviving. Then, because of man, the animal had to die a needless death. Same with Adam and Eve: the first time an animal dies, it is to clothe humans for being aware of their nakedness (Genesis 3:21) and the whole system of animal sacrifices to atone for man's sin is because of what they did. In The Walking Dead, there was even less of a reason for the animal's death; it wasn't like it resulted in feeding, clothing, or atoning for anyone (and, by levitical law, horses don't qualify as clean animals fit for consumption or sacrifice anyway). He should've left the horse alone, it wasn't even his (in contrast to, say, your own kid who you are responsible for and if your kid gets killed it's because of your choice to walk into a zombie-filled town; that kid had no chance. But an animal roaming around freely, who is not even yours to own, that's just not right). There was nothing godly or justifiable about the horse's death.
Side note: what i'm about to say is not surprising to me, because Christ-like Christians are rarely portrayed in secular entertainment, but I thought it interesting how they portrayed "Christians" who hung themselves, people of faith losing faith because of a zombie attack. Perhaps that was the whole point: to show that not even Christians actually have faith to survive (though at that point they're not really Christian). The Christ-like way to deal with the situation is to run away from danger (John 6:15) or die at the hands of another with non-violent resistance (John 19:18; Matthew 27:12) all the while praying to God to save you and/or for his will to be done (Matthew 26:39; John 18:11). Taking your own life is never applauded as the way to go. People who commit suicide in the bible are depicted as characters who weren't serious about their commitment and vows to God (Samson, King Saul, Judas, to name a few).
But anyway, I've lost interest in most of what comes on TV. I rarely watched shows/movies that were considered "adult" to beginwith and I don't watch them now; they don't appeal to me—more so now since, as a celibate person, I don't want to fan the flame of lust in any way. As a lost person, I was fairly lustful and it had a lot to do with what I placed in front of my eyes, or in my mind's eye. As far as violence goes, violence in and of itself isn't the problem for me: ruthless killing, especially for selfish gain or out of jealous feelings, is. I'd rather not fill my mind with that imagery. Though, if people are murdering to rid the world of evil in a lawful way, that's fine by me. What really made me lose interest in TV shows is the general glorification of sin on TV (lying, pursuing vengeance instead of leaving it to God, adultery, gossip, deceit, conceitedness, being led by your heart instead of God's words, et cetera), putting a positive spin to it, or coming up with a justification for why the protagonist has to do it. They somehow manage to make the "good" protagonist's sin look innocent compared to the obviously evil villain in the story. When you take a moment to analyze, the protagonist lied and deceived just as much as the "evil" characters and it didn't result in any good either, but caused more problems. That was tiring and frustrating to watch. So, I've virtually given up on TV unless there's a genuinely altruistic character on the show and it teaches a moral lesson (i.e. The Queen's Classroom) or it's a light-hearted variety show (like Running Man). Of course, both of those aren't even American TV shows lol.
TL;DR: for the most part, I don't like what the entertainment industry is producing; sin is so over-glorified that I do not find it enjoyable to watch. Watching sex is just inviting yourself to lust, counterproductive to being celibate, lol. And violence, if done lawfully (not ruthlessly) and done to rid evil, is fine by me.
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Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:32 am
real eyes realize Funny you should mention The Walking Dead...at the time, the horse's death was the deal breaker for me; I told myself " if the horse dies, I refuse to watch the next episode"; sure enough, I didn't make it past the pilot. Zombie flicks/shows don't really appeal to me anymore (let alone TV in general). When it comes to sex and violence, I'm like "yeah, yeah, get it over with, back to the plot development please". Though, I can't recall anything I've watched within recent years that had a sex scene in it. Violence-wise, I still have less compassion for the human beings; going back to zombies and the humans in those movies, it is their free will choice to drive into town and get eaten, sacrifice themselves for others, or stay in the house and get eaten. Children suffer the natural consequences of their parent's choices, sad but true. In The Walking Dead, the horse's situation was different: he/she was doing just fine on its own, grazing out in a field, surviving. Then, because of man, the animal had to die a needless death. Same with Adam and Eve: the first time an animal dies, it is to clothe humans for being aware of their nakedness (Genesis 3:21) and the whole system of animal sacrifices to atone for man's sin is because of what they did. In The Walking Dead, there was even less of a reason for the animal's death; it wasn't like it resulted in feeding, clothing, or atoning for anyone (and, by levitical law, horses don't qualify as clean animals fit for consumption or sacrifice anyway). He should've left the horse alone, it wasn't even his (in contrast to, say, your own kid who you are responsible for and if your kid gets killed it's because of your choice to walk into a zombie-filled town; that kid had no chance. But an animal roaming around freely, who is not even yours to own, that's just not right). There was nothing godly or justifiable about the horse's death. Side note: what i'm about to say is not surprising to me, because Christ-like Christians are rarely portrayed in secular entertainment, but I thought it interesting how they portrayed "Christians" who hung themselves, people of faith losing faith because of a zombie attack. Perhaps that was the whole point: to show that not even Christians actually have faith to survive (though at that point they're not really Christian). The Christ-like way to deal with the situation is to run away from danger (John 6:15) or die at the hands of another with non-violent resistance (John 19:18; Matthew 27:12) all the while praying to God to save you and/or for his will to be done (Matthew 26:39; John 18:11). Taking your own life is never applauded as the way to go. People who commit suicide in the bible are depicted as characters who weren't serious about their commitment and vows to God (Samson, King Saul, Judas, to name a few). But anyway, I've lost interest in most of what comes on TV. I rarely watched shows/movies that were considered "adult" to beginwith and I don't watch them now; they don't appeal to me—more so now since, as a celibate person, I don't want to fan the flame of lust in any way. As a lost person, I was fairly lustful and it had a lot to do with what I placed in front of my eyes, or in my mind's eye. As far as violence goes, violence in and of itself isn't the problem for me: ruthless killing, especially for selfish gain or out of jealous feelings, is. I'd rather not fill my mind with that imagery. Though, if people are murdering to rid the world of evil in a lawful way, that's fine by me. What really made me lose interest in TV shows is the general glorification of sin on TV (lying, pursuing vengeance instead of leaving it to God, adultery, gossip, deceit, conceitedness, being led by your heart instead of God's words, et cetera), putting a positive spin to it, or coming up with a justification for why the protagonist has to do it. They somehow manage to make the "good" protagonist's sin look innocent compared to the obviously evil villain in the story. When you take a moment to analyze, the protagonist lied and deceived just as much as the "evil" characters and it didn't result in any good either, but caused more problems. That was tiring and frustrating to watch. So, I've virtually given up on TV unless there's a genuinely altruistic character on the show and it teaches a moral lesson (i.e. The Queen's Classroom) or it's a light-hearted variety show (like Running Man). Of course, both of those aren't even American TV shows lol. TL;DR: for the most part, I don't like what the entertainment industry is producing; sin is so over-glorified that I do not find it enjoyable to watch. Watching sex is just inviting yourself to lust, counterproductive to being celibate, lol. And violence, if done lawfully (not ruthlessly) and done to rid evil, is fine by me. Hah, as soon as the horse first showed up, I was like, "I really hope that horse doesn't end up zombie fodder even though I know it probably will." And I mean, animals die even in movies about animals. Ginger still died in Black Beauty, and Seabiscuit still dies at the end, but these deaths are made to feel significant in a way that most animal deaths in human-centric stories are not. I suppose the death of the horse in Walking Dead had some significance in the sense that its sacrifice allowed the main character to escape that on singular situation, but it's not a sacrifice that is properly recognised, and the death is not appropriately mourned. I think that may be where the difference in animal deaths vs. human deaths in human-centric storyline lie, and that's probably why the animal deaths have more of a significance to me as the viewer. When a human dies, the human characters often mourn that death, giving the viewer a chance to mourn with the characters, but the deaths of animals are not treated the same way. And regarding the Christians offing themselves...I think it was less a cheap shot at Christians and more something to drive home the point that this is a grim, apocalyptic world these people are facing: that things are so bad that the circumstances could cause even people with faith to lose their faith. I mean, none of us knows how we would react to such grim circumstances until we're in the throes of it. I think most of us would like to believe that in such a time, we'd need our faith more than anything and wouldn't just opt out. I'd like to believe that about myself, at least. But bad circumstances, especially horrendous circumstances, have a way of bringing out the best and worst in everyone, and it forces you to come face-to-face with yourself. Not everyone is going to find the person they'd like to be or thought they were in that reflection. I haven't even had television for over ten years. The only television shows I watch are watched online, at the recommendation of one or more people. I think there is some absolutely amazing story-telling in the television media..but the majority of it is crap, which I usually manage to avoid with my system.
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Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:20 pm
I really don't have any issues with watching gore.
It just doesn't really bother me, However I draw the line at really bloody nasty slashers and stuff and I would never dare to watch a snuff film.
I can stand it but I think well it gets way out of hand very easily.
The sex I just hate. I cant even watch a movie if it has too much sexy time in it. I just cant stand to see it.
Like seriously It just makes me so er nervous, like what if someone walk in my room and they saw a sex scene on my TV granted I'm not watching porn but I could be watching a movie like American Pie or something. What would they think? It just doesn't look good.
I don't even like talking about the birds and the bees. D:
Just no. emotion_puke
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Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 6:40 pm
Crunchy Fetus I really don't have any issues with watching gore. It just doesn't really bother me, However I draw the line at really bloody nasty slashers and stuff and I would never dare to watch a snuff film. I can stand it but I think well it gets way out of hand very easily. The sex I just hate. I cant even watch a movie if it has too much sexy time in it. I just cant stand to see it. Like seriously It just makes me so er nervous, like what if someone walk in my room and they saw a sex scene on my TV granted I'm not watching porn but I could be watching a movie like American Pie or something. What would they think? It just doesn't look good. I don't even like talking about the birds and the bees. D: Just no. emotion_puke Gorey movies are my guilty pleasure. I've yet to come across a film that I found too gorey. Just so long as it's gore with people and not animals. I'm into some pretty morbid stuff, to be honest. I enjoy reading about historical forms of torture and execution. And serial killers. I don't know why. I'm against the death penalty and am very anti-torture morally. And I certainly have no aspirations to be a serial killer. I couldn't ever bring myself to kill even my worst enemy, let alone kill a bunch of people. I'm just fascinated by the dark, twisted side of humanity I guess. Sex in films doesn't bother me at all. I mean, sex happens a lot more in the real world than the crap that happens in gorefest horror films. lol I think it's kind of annoying when it doesn't seem to have much of a point within the plot, and/or sex scenes where the sheets stay perfectly draped over the couple and afterwards the girl has the sheet pulled up to her chin and when the man gets out of bed his boxers have somehow magically found their way back on him. I mean...who seriously has sex like that? Well, I guess some people do, but it's always just seemed so laughable to me that they put the sex scene in it, but in an effort to make it more "family friendly" or whatever they make sure everyone's naughty bits stay covered. You can't have your cake and eat it too. If the characters really have to have sex, either make it halfway believable or just have it fade to black or be heavily implied or something. Oh, girls keeping their bras on during sex scenes in another one that makes me laugh. You'll let him put his p***s inside you but he can't see your boobs? REALLY? While sexually explicit films don't bother me (except for stupid sex scenes), I've always found porn ridiculous. Like, I can't watch it without cracking up. The only porno I ever watched beginning to end was this ridiculous adult film set on a pirate ship. It was hilarious, and not the least bit arousing. The harder they tried to give it a coherent plot, the more ridiculous it got. Before I die, I want to meet someone who writes scripts for pornos. I need to know if they're really just stupid, or if they actually intend it to be anywhere near as funny as it ends up being.
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Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:54 pm
There once was a time when Jesus wasn't in my life and I did watch graphic content. Do I still watch graphic content? Sometimes? I love Criminal Minds and reading manga. My thing is that you can't control the media. If you want to watch something that is geared towards an adult audience there is going to be some reason as to why it is geared towards them. I would like to watch something that doesn't come from Disney every now and then. As an adult, I feel as though we need to establish reality from fiction. This also includes books and other sources of media. Keeping Reality from Fiction means that you enjoy Fiction, but your not about to make that into a Reality.
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Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 12:21 pm
Beautiful Lillies There once was a time when Jesus wasn't in my life and I did watch graphic content. Do I still watch graphic content? Sometimes? I love Criminal Minds and reading manga. My thing is that you can't control the media. If you want to watch something that is geared towards an adult audience there is going to be some reason as to why it is geared towards them. I would like to watch something that doesn't come from Disney every now and then. As an adult, I feel as though we need to establish reality from fiction. This also includes books and other sources of media. Keeping Reality from Fiction means that you enjoy Fiction, but your not about to make that into a Reality. Is separating fiction from reality really an ongoing problem? I think most relatively sane people have no trouble distinguishing between the two.
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Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 9:13 pm
SinfulGuillotine Beautiful Lillies There once was a time when Jesus wasn't in my life and I did watch graphic content. Do I still watch graphic content? Sometimes? I love Criminal Minds and reading manga. My thing is that you can't control the media. If you want to watch something that is geared towards an adult audience there is going to be some reason as to why it is geared towards them. I would like to watch something that doesn't come from Disney every now and then. As an adult, I feel as though we need to establish reality from fiction. This also includes books and other sources of media. Keeping Reality from Fiction means that you enjoy Fiction, but your not about to make that into a Reality. Is separating fiction from reality really an ongoing problem? I think most relatively sane people have no trouble distinguishing between the two.
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Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:01 pm
Beautiful Lillies SinfulGuillotine Beautiful Lillies There once was a time when Jesus wasn't in my life and I did watch graphic content. Do I still watch graphic content? Sometimes? I love Criminal Minds and reading manga. My thing is that you can't control the media. If you want to watch something that is geared towards an adult audience there is going to be some reason as to why it is geared towards them. I would like to watch something that doesn't come from Disney every now and then. As an adult, I feel as though we need to establish reality from fiction. This also includes books and other sources of media. Keeping Reality from Fiction means that you enjoy Fiction, but your not about to make that into a Reality. Is separating fiction from reality really an ongoing problem? I think most relatively sane people have no trouble distinguishing between the two. Touché.
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