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Sailor Senshi Ariel Captain
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 Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 12:31 am
Theres been a lot of anget revolving around Merida's 2-D look.
They say she's 'To sexy'
'To Skinny, her hair isn't as wild as it was, her dress is to elaborate.'
Honestly I just think they're looking for something to complain about. It's just a different style, did you expect her to look exactly the same? It's not like she's the ugly princess or anything Merida's a fox!
Some moms are afraid their daughters will get the wrong impression from her, that you need to be skinny to be a Disney Princess....I think they're overestimating kids outlook rolleyes
Chances are the kids didn't even notice xDD
What are your thoughts?
Article on the makeover
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Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 7:02 am
Seriously it's just a new look is all they did the same thing with Rapunzel did that anger them?
I agree which is quite pointless. Nope besides Disney usually sometimes changes things but that doesn't mean they aren't the same character or princess we feel in love with. Exactly and not only that she's the only Disney princess known not to have a love interest.
Your kidding the wrong impression from a Disney princess?
I agree and besides why are they making a big deal about such a little thing when there's more important things to complain about?
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Professional Shapeshifter
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Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 11:02 am
I'm just gonna link this article right here which mentions what the actual film director thought of it, and what actual child psychologists say the impact this could have on kids. I'm glad the redesign was pulled, I just wish they could have done the same for Mulan (the brand tends to focus on whitewashing her and a couple of the other characters, and putting her in the clothing she rejected in the beginning of the movie). It might not seem like a big deal to you guys? But even a little thing like making her dress so that it's completely off the shoulder has an impact in a society that gets women to be sexualized at an early age. It's subtle but pervasive. You guys can say "Oh it's just a cartoon/just a new look, it doesn't change the character", but that's not true.
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Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 4:25 pm
The outrage got me angry. stare She looks beautiful.
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Professional Shapeshifter
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Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 9:06 pm
Dream Drop Kilala The outrage got me angry. stare She looks beautiful. She didn't look beautiful before?
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Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 9:56 pm
James Phobos Dream Drop Kilala The outrage got me angry. stare She looks beautiful. She didn't look beautiful before?
HUGE Merida fan
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Professional Shapeshifter
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Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 10:11 pm
Yeah, I noted that and my relief for it.
I just found the changes so... unnecessary. Especially to her character. She's already an immensely popular character in the line, you don't need to adjust her dress so that it's hardly on her shoulders and she's covered in sparkles and what seems like noticeably more make up... But then again, maybe it's just me.
/shrug
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Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 12:42 am
I'm more appalled that mother's are bitching about her new look instead of a 10 year old rapper. Ok, so she's singing cute stuff...now. But, if her parents continue their "career" who's to say they won't get corrupted by today's society? Or worse, theirs when they are older, especially if we're praising kids at such a young age. If this change was a poor excuse at representation of role models for little girls, this 10 year old and her sister who both rap are better role models? I have lost some faith in society and that generation is, excuse my language,
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Sailor Rapunzel Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 7:01 am
Sailor Senshi Merida If this change was a poor excuse at representation of role models for little girls, this 10 year old and her sister who both rap are better role models? I have lost some faith in society and that generation is, excuse my language, So much this. If you think that's bad check [this] out - the boy is 6 years old. The other thing that bothers me about it is yes, it may have been an unnecessary change, but will forcing it back really do any good in the long run? Think about it. We grew up around that stuff, and in a way while it may suck for young girls it really did help prepare us for the real world, because as much as anyone would like to try to deny it, the fact is that the adult world is very superficial. I would love it if one character could make a difference, but no, even if you are the smartest person in the world, if you don't dress the part you are often ignored and cast aside. Trying to keep your children in a bubble just because of your own personal beliefs is kind of dumb and will most likely backfire in the future. I wouldn't put too much trust into what the child psychologists have to say (in the second linked article) either because there were only two who spoke about it and quite frankly the article seemed biased to begin with - I wouldn't doubt it if they deliberately omitted those with a different opinion on it.
While I agree that changing her in the first place was unnecessary, I also think changing her back was equally unnecessary. I like both designs and think this whole situation is beyond silly.
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Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 11:58 am
I'll weigh in if I may...
I signed the petition when I first heard about it because to me, the change is problematic, though admittedly on a larger scale than just dresses or sparkles. Media for children is reflective of our cultural values. That's how we raise children to act and think in a manner mostly consistent with cultural norms. When I look at the two versions of Merida, the thought in my mind is "what are these saying about us culturally?"
I firmly believe that we live in a "princess culture." Princess merchandise is everywhere and girls are encouraged to buy into that. By adding the original version of Merida to the princess lineup, Disney would be asserting that there is more than one way to be a girl, and therefore, a princess. The focus is on the characteristics that make one a princess: strength of heart, integrity, loyalty, kindness, etc.
Each Disney princess has her issues- I'm sure we can all agree with that. But each one, in her original state, exemplifies those positive characteristics. They fit together in a lineup, but each one is unique. For example, Cinderella had "princess-like" qualities before she married the prince, as did Belle and Tiana. The problem is that the new style for the princess franchise (all the princesses, not just Merida) focuses on the dresses and the sparkles instead of what the characters accomplish and the qualities they possess. The new look for each girl standardizes princesses and takes away some of their individuality and the characteristics that make them who they are.
I'm surprised that there hasn't been backlash because of the new looks Mulan, Belle, and the others have gotten, but in a way, it makes sense that it's Merida who is the catalyst. She is decidedly different from the other princesses, so the changes to her are much more obvious. My hope is that the backlash over Merida's new design will lead to people looking more critically at what's been done to ALL the princesses, and really questioning those changes and what they say about us as a culture.
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Sailor Rapunzel Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 1:39 pm
I'm sorry but that's quite a bit of weight to put on one company. I realize that Disney quite possibly has the most popular depictions of princesses but by no means are they the only ones. I understand your sentiment on the subject but at the same time I can't grasp as to why this seems to be such a huge deal to some people.
As a parent, if you nurture your children carefully, then ultimately what they see on TV or in theaters should have little to no effect on how they see the world. It's fiction. Why should a company who is out mainly to create profit go back and change characters that haven't changed since their release? It's preposterous - unless it is outright demeaning to any race, gender, or other minority, I see no point in changing anything. This whole thing has been blown out of proportion, and quite frankly it seems as if people were actually looking for something to be wrong with the new depiction. When I first saw it, and it seems I am not the only one, all I thought was that she looked pretty. I hadn't even noticed that it was "slightly suggestive" at all. Even if it was, are your children's possibilities of obtaining role models limited to only Disney characters? How does that look on you as parents?
I still think they shouldn't have changed her to begin with, but if they did that's their deal, and people overreact over every little thing nowadays.
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Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 1:18 am
I got into more detail in someone's thread. This is what I wrote:
I'm outraged by this petty outrage. That is called sexualization?! Lowering her neckline and giving her an "hour-shape" body!? Last time I checked, to me: sexualization is giving her hoochie makeup, hoochie dress and have a harem of boys surrounding her.
Second: her messed up hair, her "normal" body type and her bow and arrow do NOT make her strong. It's her actions that make her strong. Appearance is for show. For shame, people thinking that a design for a cartoon character is shallow! They are the shallow ones because they went straight for the appearance!
I would also have to agree with Keltoi Samurai: why isn't Mulan considered strong? Granted, I don't even consider her a Disney Princess, but, why isn't she? What about Pocahontas? Tiana? Rapunzel? Pocahontas is based off a real person and chose her own path instead of following her father's want for marriage. Tiana? Opened her own business. Rapunzel? From what I've seen, she pretty much handles herself well with her hair and a frying pan.
So, a 16 year old (that's how old she is,) can't get "glammed" up for a Marketing Scheme, but all the other strong Princesses can? Snow White is 14 and look at her! She has a bit of glam to her, even if she falls under the category of "Damsel in Distress."
This whole: "You took away her bow, she no longer 'fits' the strong female we were introduced" bullcrap I'm hearing is just that: bullcrap. We all know who Merida is and we definitely know she isn't who they market. But, that's the thing: glitter and girly s**t sells. "Plain and Ordinary" just doesn't sell in the "Real World" anymore.
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