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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:33 pm


Hey there guys, so I've been thinking of making a thread focusing on the music from the fire emblem games for awhile now...(I'm not sure if this would be the right place to do it...) Actually I remember Tiki mentioned about it once in the blast awhile back.. and I thought it sounded like a neat idea. So here we go! whee

Anyways for those that doesn't know how this kind of thread works, basically someone picks a particular music or piece from any of the Fire Emblem games. Providing the link of the piece, and if you can find out who composed it that would be cool.
( But yeah a lot of them will probably be by Yuka Tsujiyoko... xp )

Then the person on the bottom of the post pretty much rates it with 10 being the highest score while 1 being at the lowest of the bunch. But you also should say a little about the piece, what you really enjoyed about the piece? Or something you didn't like about it? What you think could've been improved on? And so on...

So enough chitchat time to get this thread started! Since I'm at the top I'll be the first one to post.

Hmm... I think I'll go with something from a favorite game of mine. So my piece will be Isaac Palace from Fire Emblem Genealogy of the Holy War(Or FE4), composed by Yuka Tsujiyoko.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:43 pm


I'm... pretty sure we had something similar to this that got overrun with Final Fantasy music. But whatever, I'll play along.

I'm partially reminded of a mix of the Pirates area in the Great Bay area in Majora's Mask and the Hyrule Castle theme in Minish Cap. It certainly has that tone for nobility and hints of dark themes can definitely be heard in there. Sounds pretty good. 9/10

I'm gonna be a jerk and use Dry your tears, love. This is not good-bye from FE:A. Cue the feels now please.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:30 pm


Despite it being used in sad situations, this song really doesn't inspire a feeling of helplessness. It portrays a group beset by sadness, but possessing the inner strength to continue, surpassing all obstacles that may obstruct them. The sadness is still there, yes, but it is this that gives their motivation meaning, which I believe may have been Emmeryn's second reason for doing what she did. (The first, obviously, being to show the power of peace and selflessness).

I'll go ahead and drop one of my personal favorites, You have power...Like mine, otherwise known as Tiki's theme. Still unsure as to why it includes a picture of Olivia and Inigo, but it seems to fit the mood the song sets.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:51 pm


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Well if you're going to make Tiki grow up, you should make Tiki's theme grow up too. And that's the impression I get. Young Divine Dragon from FE11/12 is a more minimalistic piece with a lot more airy space and echoes. It feels more tentative and more fitting for a young girl without much experience. The Awakening version of the theme feels a lot more full and sure of itself, much more experienced. I really like the continuing harp part too. It's got a nice rhythm and keeps the piece going at a good pace. I like that even though the piece doesn't get too loud, it builds on itself as it goes along. There are a few key moments in here where I just really love the mixture of sounds, where the chords really give the familiar melody a new flavor. It's old meets new and I love it. The only problem I really have is that I feel like the synth flute sounds a little odd in the beginning, and I think it could have been a bit more legato. Hearing the space in between does make it feel a bit more ethereal, but it also feels a little bit too synthy in comparison to everything else. But just a little bit.
9/10. I'm probably a little biased, but.... I'm probably a little biased.

Expedition, from New Mystery of the Emblem, composed by miss Tsujiyoko

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:12 am


Nothing wrong with a little bit of bias~ XD

Ah sweet. So the 2nd map theme eh? Excellent choice, Tiki. To be honest this particular piece is where I felt it was so much of an improvement over FE3's version. Most of the music in the game was more or so hit or miss for me. But this was the one that totally did it so well! The original version just didn't feel very memorable and felt sorta bland in comparison. Not that it was bad or anything but nothing really seemed to stand out much.

Anyways time to talk about the actual music. xp

I really loved the way that this piece seems to build up more and more. So unlike FE3 where that one felt really slow and boring. It starts out with a few awesome catchy beats but then it gets stronger and stronger. That flute that comes in later sounds rather nice and adds to the feeling of the song. It feels like you're traveling through a foreign land which seems to suits the title pretty well. I'll give it an 9/10~

Alright, my piece is gonna be The Enemy Approaches! from Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance composed by Yuka Tsujiyoko.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:51 am


Am I allowed to post in this thread so soon after making a post? No? Well I'm going to anyway.

I've always found it amazing how seamlessly the strings pick up where the brass leaves off in that beginning bit. This theme really inspires a feeling of dread, less of a "fight and we shall prevail" theme and more of a "If we are to die, we shall die in battle" motif. Great theme for when your army is surrounded. My only problem is that each time it loops it feels a bit choppy, like the brass could come in with a little less oomph for better effect. In fact, sometimes it seems like the low brass is trying a tad too hard with their hits. Still, one of my favorite enemy army themes. 8.5/10.

I'll continue this Path of Radiance train with Power Hungry Fool, one of my favorite harpsichord pieces ever.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 3:10 am


I suppose I'll go next since it's been awhile.. xp

So Oliver's theme.. This piece really does fit him quite well. It has that zany kinda classical feeling to it, yet there's a certain strangeness in this too at least that's sorta how I reacted when he first appeared in Path of Radiance.(Plus he is a pretty memorable boss XD)

That harpsichord does sound very nice indeed.. A very beautiful instrument for sure. I think I like the way it flows and how fast paced those strings can be at times. I also really like those quieter moments to give it brief pause of silence to really show some atmosphere. And even at times there's drama as if it's trying to find some resolution to this conflict. Looking back in my first time playing PoR, I didn't really appreciate this track as much as I do now. I find it kinda silly and just didn't care much for it. But yeah now I really find myself enjoying this track. So uh yeah... It totally deserves a 9/10!

EDIT: Time to revive this music thread again! Spread the FE music joy! ^^ I hope at least... Actually there's another piece that I rather have in mind that's really been getting my attention very recently.

So without further ado, for my new piece, so instead I'll go with Fire Emblem 3's version of Theme of Love, composed by the lovely Yuka Tsujiyoko.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 9:04 pm


I too will revive this, mainly because I am in the mood for AAY threads, music in particular.

On one hand, while this piece is short and simple, it does a fantastic job at describing the tragic take of love that FE3 has in terms of the legend of Anri and Artemis. Not to mention that I LOVE the acoustics in FE3, so much so that I find that FE12 is a step down OST-wise IMHO. Like why replace the fabulous acoustic for a generic piano, Nintendo, whyyyyy? Though admittedly the acoustic is rather repetitive, it still does a good job holding up the background by itself, as well as chamber music shows that a repetitive bass line =/= bad piece. The strings in the piece also help flesh out the tragic feeling to the composition, which I like, but that's all they really do, nothing wrong with that or anything! Overall, while the composition is as simple as gets in terms of musical technicality, simple isn't necessarily bad, and is in many ways, better than complex. 8/10

Gaiden needs more love, FE fanbase, therefore..
Final Map Theme from Fire Emblem Gaiden composed by the lovely Yuka Tsujiyoko.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:10 pm


I don't want this to go two revivals without answer, so let's discuss a bit too!

I think that Theme of Love in particular is interesting when you look at Mystery and New Mystery side by side. I feel like New Mystery's soundtrack is sort of interesting, because while you can hear the tunes they remake, a lot of them come out sounding very different from the originals. (Expedition is actually the only piece I think is better than the original, though both pieces are very different which is interesting in itself). I feel the newer version is a bit of a different animal, and while it might not resonate as well, I like that it slows down a bit to match its new instrumentation, and some of those chords just strike me in the chest, ooh! I feel it's a better fit for recruiting the sisters during the final chapter than for telling the tale of Anri and Artemis, if you get me. It's all my opinion, of course, but I think looking at the two side by side is kinda interesting in that regard.

Anyway, back to the piece on hand, I think the best part of this piece is all of its rhythms. It switching on and offbeat keeps the pace going fast and exciting, switching things up in little ways. For a piece with relatively little range in notes, with some outliers, the way it varies its own rhythms in the melody and the percussion lines, together and separate, really distinguishes it. I like hearing it switch between simpler rhythms and faster, more varied ones, sometimes handing them off between lines. I think it's a great piece for a final chapter as the end draws near, along with the final battle (I would assume so, as I have not played the game myself). Also, there's something about NES snare drum sounds that makes me feel so nostalgic. I feel like I can imagine myself playing this as a little kid at night, happy that I'm about to get to the end. I'll give it an 8/10.

Thracia Army from Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy Way by guess who it's Yuka Tsujiyoko.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:55 pm


I enjoy how upbeat those synth snare drums are (least, I think they're snare drums). I can definitely hear parts of future music snugly hidden away in this little gem (I think there was something extremely similar to this song in FE5. It also feels like there's some battle music that later gets taken from this). It's also rather catchy. It feels like the Thracian Army is skipping through a bright sunny day in the woods, happily cutting down all the enemies that happen to take forever reaching them on their turn. Or out on a picnic with shenanigans.

9/10

Disturbance in Agustria from Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War by Yuka Tsujiyoko.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:43 am


Yay!! Leaf is here! Now the FE music fun has begun~ xp

Ah, that's an interesting piece there, Roy. I do rather like Chapter 2's map theme.

I really enjoy how beautiful and relaxing this one sounds. Man, FE4 really has some nice music huh. It's very slow and steady at first glance but it's really neat how it gradually starts to pick up the pace. Whenever I hear this track, I feel like there's a sense of mystery in the midst. Since so much just happens in chapter 2 man.. It's not exactly one of the awe breaking pieces in there, or really one of my favorite map themes in the game. I still think it's pretty nice overall though. But I'll give this one an 8/10.

Heh, It's getting Judgral all of a sudden here, so I'll go with some FE5 cause I've been in the mood lately. ^_^

Anyways, my piece will be When Things Go Wrong from Thracia 776 composed by Yuka Tsujiyoko yet again~
PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 2:42 pm


This.. is possibly my favourite piece in FE5, the audacity for a tough game to actually point out when you're sucking at it! It's also Cyas's troll music, which I love profoundly as one of my favourite chapters in my favourite FE game.
Anyway on the actual piece, it's all about the underline bass that gives it the feeling of being rushed for the worst. I also love how it is such a suspenseful, somewhat chaotic feeling piece, yet it is done all with strings and bass, and not percussion spam like most chaotic pieces are done by, although it does have a minute percussion beat to it. I know I pointed this out more than enough times, but the FE5 soundfont is beautiful, and although the brass is what makes this game shine, the strings can also pull their weight sufficiently, as seen in this piece, where they hold the whole scene together.
On matching: this piece very much so matches what is going on at the time: A.) You're being crushed by the enemy, B.) the dickiest tactician ever is riding your a**, and you just got surrounded by an army of promoted Mage Knights, or C.) The RNG wrecked one of your allies (reset time!).

Overall, although it is my favourite probably because of how well it fits into the game, it is by all means also an amazing piece just to listen to. 9.5/10

PS: "******** YOU CYAS!" - a Youtube commenter

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 1:25 pm


More Fire emblem music ahoy! I totally forgot about this thread for a long time. -brings back the thread with my own might-

So Leaf, my boy. You have possibly brought in one of my personal favorite title themes from the fire emblem series. I love all Fire Emblem title music of course and all in their own ways, but this one in particular is special to my heart. What I really like about this piece is that it actually some uses elements from FE3, FE4 title theme music in some parts of the song. If anyone hasn't noticed it in some parts of the middle of the title theme, and especially the part of the end. That part I thought was a great way to end this track. The strings, brass, and woodwinds synth really really flow well together and it's soooo strong. But most importantly is that the way this theme flows while being cut to the opening like it's actually trying to tell a narrative musically just works so darn well.(I still wish it was translated man...) Fin saving Leaf in the rain while escaping from the thracia dragon knight forces. Havan and Othlin sparring together in the village.... I just love it so much! =D This tracks deserves a 10/10 from me!

Now for my next piece will be a piece a certain someone I know will enjoy. wink (As I myself have grown fond of this track a lot) It shall be Light Inheritor from Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War. Anyways everyone enjoy this one!
PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 10:19 am


Waha, that's one way to revive a thread. Post something that you KNOW I have a lot to say about. Alright, I'll bite.

Light Inheritors is one of my favorite tracks in all FEdom, mostly due to the many layers of description is has within its notes. I think that FE4 has the best soundtrack in the series, not just because the music is great and descriptive, but also because the game is full of repeated themes, leitmotifs, and instrumental sounds that are given connotations of places and characters and then repeated in other places, allowing everything to be connected on an entirely different level.

This is the player phase theme of chapter 6, the first chapter of gen 2, which means it is the chapter that follows the fireworks display that was the end of chapter 5. How do you follow that up and introduce your new team of kids?

The theme begins triumphantly, but the piece on the whole is very light and tentative, as if it could snap in half at any moment. But it also pushes forward with its driving percussion and rising notes. These are the remnants, that which survived, that which was left behind. They are crawling out of the mud for the first time in a world full of danger where the villains have already won.

And they're in Issac you say? How do you know just by listening to the music? Well, the notes from 0:39-0:55 are repeated in the Isaac Palace theme, which is conveniently already linked in this thread (check 0:19 to 0:37). Except in some places where the palace theme goes up, this theme goes down. Understandable as one is a noble, triumphant palace theme and the other is a tentative beginning after everything has gone wrong. The themes in Issac often feature high brass, low and high strings, and various percussion sounds such as clapping and tom-toms. Of course, Light inheritors lacks the percussion variety and the vaguely tribal sounding rhythm that appears in other themes with "Isaac" in the name, but it features the strings and high brass, as well as mallet percussion. You could interpret this in line with the story itself depending on which theme you analyze first. You are in Isaac, yes, but the nation carries far more meaning to Seliph and the second gen cast than the first gen cast on the whole. What was once considered an enemy nation is the one place where this new hope has flourished and grown in secret, and Seliph considers his home to be Issac instead of Grandbell (which he knows next to nothing about. Also, more props to the FE13 DLC art for driving this home even more). You do hear this theme before you hear the palace theme, and you hear the palace theme as the first of the many FE4 character endings. There is a strong connection between the rulers of Grandbell and Issac that wasn't there before (nevermind what resentment the people of Isaac might still understandably hold against Grandbell, but that's a whole 'nother conversation right there).

Back to the theme itself, I actually think of this theme as Seliph's bootstrapped leitmotif. To me, it's his theme even more than the piece that is actually called "Seliph's Theme," which is repeated in some key places itself, but carries different connotations for me. In the music for "The Last Holy War," the endgame player phase theme, it is the beginning of Light Inheritor that is echoed. And right after that, we get an echo of Birth of the Holy Knight, which is considered to be Sigurd's theme. They are echos of the beginnings of both generations, and bring to mind feelings of the trials and tribulations faced in both coming together for the end that both generations worked so hard to reach. If Birth of the Holy Knight can be Sigurd's bootstrapped leitmotif then I think that Light Inheritors can have the same treatment.

There is probably more to say, but this is what immediately comes to mind. I want to give it a 10, but I don't know if the song itself is as strong as all the thigns you draw from it. But that's the thing about FE4's soundtrack. The whole is far bigger than the sum of its parts, just like the game itself. I'll give the piece itself a 9/10, and I'll give the soundtrack itself my unending love.

With that, let's take a break from Jugdral and go somewhere else.

Battle of Pride from Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn, by My Oh My it's Yuka Tsujiyoko.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:22 pm


-peeks in- Welp, since no one else feels like jumping in just, yet I'll make the iniative this time.

Heh heh, looks like I caught a bite with my trusty, invisible fishing line -grins-
But anyways, great analysis Tiki as always! wink There is probably more to say about Light Inheritors.. Honestly, re-listening to it again really does make you think about it.. There's so much to love about FE4's soundtrack as a whole. But alas we shall move on to bigger places for the time being..

Tellius what a great way to start! Battle pride so this theme plays in FE10 when you engage combat with the boss usually. I like that it's strong, jumpy, and climatic and it starts off with a bang at the beginning. It reminds me of a predator coming out from behind its prey, for an ambush to its target in the deep jungle. There's suspense and drama to it even... And the drums are really a nice touch in the background.(At least I'm sure they are drums) And I like how often the tempo does change like in each strike it feels like it's going lower and lower but it still remains in balance. There's also a really cool dramatic pause in between parts, which I think really does its job. I guess the only minor complain I might have is well... It does feel sorta repetitive at times. I suppose the resolution could be a tad more stronger. But that's really all about it. Battle Pride certainly does suit the tone of the song pretty well.(Also some brownie points for the pic of volug for the song. XD) I'll give this a 9/10.

My piece shall be Bearer of Hope from Radiant Dawn(One of the map themes I remember the most), composed by you all guess it! Yuka Tsujiyoko.
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