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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:17 pm
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:25 pm
I have always thought that if girls who have cleavage or any kind of revealing clothing do not want to be looked at... then why wear it... it seems contradictory to me.
That is all I got on that matter...
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:41 pm
Qyp I have always thought that if girls who have cleavage or any kind of revealing clothing do not want to be looked at... then why wear it... it seems contradictory to me. That is all I got on that matter... because its comfy and is just another style of clothing. just because i wear a tank top or short sleeves doesnt mean i want men commenting on my arms all day long. showing some tasteful boobage is no different
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:12 pm
Sorry, but I think it is just showing the lack of self-discipline. And instead of saying it is my fault, someone wants to point blame on someone else. In this case, female; lets not forget the male only has to have sex with a woman to see that his genes are passed to the next generation, the woman has a 9 month waiting period then 18 years or so of raising the child.
It isn't a matter of clothing, but how the person sees the other. If all they see is a sex symbol then, they could be dressed as a nun and still be lusted after
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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:24 am
There are all kinds of fetishes... You could dress like a nun and some people would get off on it... I know a guy who gets more hung up on chicks who hide themselves completely, because he wants to get down to whats underneath all those layers they are hiding under. LOL
Anyways, I agree with the article 100%... No one is accountable for the desires and actions of other people.
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:58 am
Shanna66 Qyp I have always thought that if girls who have cleavage or any kind of revealing clothing do not want to be looked at... then why wear it... it seems contradictory to me. That is all I got on that matter... because its comfy and is just another style of clothing. just because i wear a tank top or short sleeves doesnt mean i want men commenting on my arms all day long. showing some tasteful boobage is no different I actually agree with Qyp about this. Comments may be too much, but if someone is going to reveal something in public they shouldn't get mad about people seeing it. That's like turning on the TV and complaining about it being on. Don't like it, turn it off. Don't like being looked at, cover up. There are many ways to be both comfortable and covered and if weather is to blame I'd suggest moving North. Easier said than done, I know, but the point is there are solutions to the problem and it is personal choice to stay with it.
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Lord Alucard Ere Casanova
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:10 pm
Lord Kilo Von Mortenson Shanna66 Qyp I have always thought that if girls who have cleavage or any kind of revealing clothing do not want to be looked at... then why wear it... it seems contradictory to me. That is all I got on that matter... because its comfy and is just another style of clothing. just because i wear a tank top or short sleeves doesnt mean i want men commenting on my arms all day long. showing some tasteful boobage is no different I actually agree with Qyp about this. Comments may be too much, but if someone is going to reveal something in public they shouldn't get mad about people seeing it. That's like turning on the TV and complaining about it being on. Don't like it, turn it off. Don't like being looked at, cover up. There are many ways to be both comfortable and covered and if weather is to blame I'd suggest moving North. Easier said than done, I know, but the point is there are solutions to the problem and it is personal choice to stay with it. so because i have men come up to me and say they would do me i should move up north just because the shirt i wear doesnt go all the way up to my neck? im pretty sure my breasts are on my body to feed babies, not for men to make rude and sometimes scary comments about
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:23 pm
Shanna66 Lord Kilo Von Mortenson Shanna66 Qyp I have always thought that if girls who have cleavage or any kind of revealing clothing do not want to be looked at... then why wear it... it seems contradictory to me. That is all I got on that matter... because its comfy and is just another style of clothing. just because i wear a tank top or short sleeves doesnt mean i want men commenting on my arms all day long. showing some tasteful boobage is no different I actually agree with Qyp about this. Comments may be too much, but if someone is going to reveal something in public they shouldn't get mad about people seeing it. That's like turning on the TV and complaining about it being on. Don't like it, turn it off. Don't like being looked at, cover up. There are many ways to be both comfortable and covered and if weather is to blame I'd suggest moving North. Easier said than done, I know, but the point is there are solutions to the problem and it is personal choice to stay with it. so because i have men come up to me and say they would do me i should move up north just because the shirt i wear doesnt go all the way up to my neck? im pretty sure my breasts are on my body to feed babies, not for men to make rude and sometimes scary comments about No, in that case I suggest you call the police and charge them with harassment. Get their names, numbers, addresses, whatever else you need. Don't bother making contact again and perhaps after dealing with the police they'll learn to be respectful. Do not twist my words. I'll quote my sentence and explain it to clear away any confusion. "if weather is to blame I'd suggest moving North." By this I am referring to the weather and only the weather. The only reason the weather would be to blame for wearing revealing clothes would be if it is too hot, unless there is some form of weather I'm not familiar with. Generally speaking at least in the Northern Hemisphere it is colder further North. If you're on the Southern side then of course it would get colder if you move South. My advice is to find an area with a climate you are comfortable with and can cover everything up in comfortably then you don't have to show off parts you don't want people seeing. Seeing and commenting on are two different things, if you don't mind them seeing, but don't want them commenting, then my advice is to call someone to do something about it when someone comments. Depending on what they're saying it could be a form of harassment and that is against the law.
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Lord Alucard Ere Casanova
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:32 pm
Lord Kilo Von Mortenson Shanna66 Lord Kilo Von Mortenson Shanna66 Qyp I have always thought that if girls who have cleavage or any kind of revealing clothing do not want to be looked at... then why wear it... it seems contradictory to me. That is all I got on that matter... because its comfy and is just another style of clothing. just because i wear a tank top or short sleeves doesnt mean i want men commenting on my arms all day long. showing some tasteful boobage is no different I actually agree with Qyp about this. Comments may be too much, but if someone is going to reveal something in public they shouldn't get mad about people seeing it. That's like turning on the TV and complaining about it being on. Don't like it, turn it off. Don't like being looked at, cover up. There are many ways to be both comfortable and covered and if weather is to blame I'd suggest moving North. Easier said than done, I know, but the point is there are solutions to the problem and it is personal choice to stay with it. so because i have men come up to me and say they would do me i should move up north just because the shirt i wear doesnt go all the way up to my neck? im pretty sure my breasts are on my body to feed babies, not for men to make rude and sometimes scary comments about No, in that case I suggest you call the police and charge them with harassment. Get their names, numbers, addresses, whatever else you need. Don't bother making contact again and perhaps after dealing with the police they'll learn to be respectful. Do not twist my words. I'll quote my sentence and explain it to clear away any confusion. "if weather is to blame I'd suggest moving North." By this I am referring to the weather and only the weather. The only reason the weather would be to blame for wearing revealing clothes would be if it is too hot, unless there is some form of weather I'm not familiar with. Generally speaking at least in the Northern Hemisphere it is colder further North. If you're on the Southern side then of course it would get colder if you move South. My advice is to find an area with a climate you are comfortable with and can cover everything up in comfortably then you don't have to show off parts you don't want people seeing. Seeing and commenting on are two different things, if you don't mind them seeing, but don't want them commenting, then my advice is to call someone to do something about it when someone comments. Depending on what they're saying it could be a form of harassment and that is against the law. i dont care if people look at me, what bothers me are the rude comments i get from men i dont know and have no way of getting their information to report them. i dont dress in a flashy way either, i dont show much boobage at all and i never even wear shorts.
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:41 pm
Shanna66 Lord Kilo Von Mortenson Shanna66 Lord Kilo Von Mortenson Shanna66 Qyp I have always thought that if girls who have cleavage or any kind of revealing clothing do not want to be looked at... then why wear it... it seems contradictory to me. That is all I got on that matter... because its comfy and is just another style of clothing. just because i wear a tank top or short sleeves doesnt mean i want men commenting on my arms all day long. showing some tasteful boobage is no different I actually agree with Qyp about this. Comments may be too much, but if someone is going to reveal something in public they shouldn't get mad about people seeing it. That's like turning on the TV and complaining about it being on. Don't like it, turn it off. Don't like being looked at, cover up. There are many ways to be both comfortable and covered and if weather is to blame I'd suggest moving North. Easier said than done, I know, but the point is there are solutions to the problem and it is personal choice to stay with it. so because i have men come up to me and say they would do me i should move up north just because the shirt i wear doesnt go all the way up to my neck? im pretty sure my breasts are on my body to feed babies, not for men to make rude and sometimes scary comments about No, in that case I suggest you call the police and charge them with harassment. Get their names, numbers, addresses, whatever else you need. Don't bother making contact again and perhaps after dealing with the police they'll learn to be respectful. Do not twist my words. I'll quote my sentence and explain it to clear away any confusion. "if weather is to blame I'd suggest moving North." By this I am referring to the weather and only the weather. The only reason the weather would be to blame for wearing revealing clothes would be if it is too hot, unless there is some form of weather I'm not familiar with. Generally speaking at least in the Northern Hemisphere it is colder further North. If you're on the Southern side then of course it would get colder if you move South. My advice is to find an area with a climate you are comfortable with and can cover everything up in comfortably then you don't have to show off parts you don't want people seeing. Seeing and commenting on are two different things, if you don't mind them seeing, but don't want them commenting, then my advice is to call someone to do something about it when someone comments. Depending on what they're saying it could be a form of harassment and that is against the law. i dont care if people look at me, what bothers me are the rude comments i get from men i dont know and have no way of getting their information to report them. i dont dress in a flashy way either, i dont show much boobage at all and i never even wear shorts. Then your problem is a disrespectful society. You might try carrying a camera phone or a similar device to take pictures of those people and use that to show the police or simply ask when they make the comments. Write down the report and hand it to the police. Harassment should not be tolerated.
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Lord Alucard Ere Casanova
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:47 pm
Lord Kilo Von Mortenson Shanna66 Lord Kilo Von Mortenson Shanna66 Lord Kilo Von Mortenson I actually agree with Qyp about this. Comments may be too much, but if someone is going to reveal something in public they shouldn't get mad about people seeing it. That's like turning on the TV and complaining about it being on. Don't like it, turn it off. Don't like being looked at, cover up. There are many ways to be both comfortable and covered and if weather is to blame I'd suggest moving North. Easier said than done, I know, but the point is there are solutions to the problem and it is personal choice to stay with it. so because i have men come up to me and say they would do me i should move up north just because the shirt i wear doesnt go all the way up to my neck? im pretty sure my breasts are on my body to feed babies, not for men to make rude and sometimes scary comments about No, in that case I suggest you call the police and charge them with harassment. Get their names, numbers, addresses, whatever else you need. Don't bother making contact again and perhaps after dealing with the police they'll learn to be respectful. Do not twist my words. I'll quote my sentence and explain it to clear away any confusion. "if weather is to blame I'd suggest moving North." By this I am referring to the weather and only the weather. The only reason the weather would be to blame for wearing revealing clothes would be if it is too hot, unless there is some form of weather I'm not familiar with. Generally speaking at least in the Northern Hemisphere it is colder further North. If you're on the Southern side then of course it would get colder if you move South. My advice is to find an area with a climate you are comfortable with and can cover everything up in comfortably then you don't have to show off parts you don't want people seeing. Seeing and commenting on are two different things, if you don't mind them seeing, but don't want them commenting, then my advice is to call someone to do something about it when someone comments. Depending on what they're saying it could be a form of harassment and that is against the law. i dont care if people look at me, what bothers me are the rude comments i get from men i dont know and have no way of getting their information to report them. i dont dress in a flashy way either, i dont show much boobage at all and i never even wear shorts. Then your problem is a disrespectful society. You might try carrying a camera phone or a similar device to take pictures of those people and use that to show the police or simply ask when they make the comments. Write down the report and hand it to the police. Harassment should not be tolerated. im pretty sure the police arent going to do anything because of a few cat calls
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:54 pm
Shanna66 Lord Kilo Von Mortenson Shanna66 Lord Kilo Von Mortenson Shanna66 Lord Kilo Von Mortenson I actually agree with Qyp about this. Comments may be too much, but if someone is going to reveal something in public they shouldn't get mad about people seeing it. That's like turning on the TV and complaining about it being on. Don't like it, turn it off. Don't like being looked at, cover up. There are many ways to be both comfortable and covered and if weather is to blame I'd suggest moving North. Easier said than done, I know, but the point is there are solutions to the problem and it is personal choice to stay with it. so because i have men come up to me and say they would do me i should move up north just because the shirt i wear doesnt go all the way up to my neck? im pretty sure my breasts are on my body to feed babies, not for men to make rude and sometimes scary comments about No, in that case I suggest you call the police and charge them with harassment. Get their names, numbers, addresses, whatever else you need. Don't bother making contact again and perhaps after dealing with the police they'll learn to be respectful. Do not twist my words. I'll quote my sentence and explain it to clear away any confusion. "if weather is to blame I'd suggest moving North." By this I am referring to the weather and only the weather. The only reason the weather would be to blame for wearing revealing clothes would be if it is too hot, unless there is some form of weather I'm not familiar with. Generally speaking at least in the Northern Hemisphere it is colder further North. If you're on the Southern side then of course it would get colder if you move South. My advice is to find an area with a climate you are comfortable with and can cover everything up in comfortably then you don't have to show off parts you don't want people seeing. Seeing and commenting on are two different things, if you don't mind them seeing, but don't want them commenting, then my advice is to call someone to do something about it when someone comments. Depending on what they're saying it could be a form of harassment and that is against the law. i dont care if people look at me, what bothers me are the rude comments i get from men i dont know and have no way of getting their information to report them. i dont dress in a flashy way either, i dont show much boobage at all and i never even wear shorts. Then your problem is a disrespectful society. You might try carrying a camera phone or a similar device to take pictures of those people and use that to show the police or simply ask when they make the comments. Write down the report and hand it to the police. Harassment should not be tolerated. im pretty sure the police arent going to do anything because of a few cat calls They definitely won't if they don't get called at all.
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Lord Alucard Ere Casanova
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:40 am
What's considered modest is dependent upon the culture in question. It's not necessarily because of what clothing a person is wearing. What's considered modest is what acknowledges personhood and respect. Because some d**k doesn't want to regard someone as a person because what they are wearing is modest, given weather conditions, is not right. That's blaming the victim. Even it's not modest, people should try to treat them still as a person, not a piece of meat. Even if the person doesn't have respect for themselves, why should we deny treating them with respect? Maybe its because of my Southern upbringing but police in certain areas in my experience (I'm acknowledging that my perspective could be wrong on this so correct me if I am) police tend to blame the victim when it comes to stuff like cat calling or view it as a compliment. I'm not saying that she should not call the police concerning cat calls, I'm saying that she might have tried and had experience with police blowing off her abuse or seen the police blow off the abuse of another. Such experiences do disheartens one's attempt to put trust in law enforcement. I would encourage her to try again though since you never know, you might get that one officer who won't blame the victim.
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:07 am
rmcdra What's considered modest is dependent upon the culture in question. It's not necessarily because of what clothing a person is wearing. What's considered modest is what acknowledges personhood and respect. Because some d**k doesn't want to regard someone as a person because what they are wearing is modest, given weather conditions, is not right. That's blaming the victim. Even it's not modest, people should try to treat them still as a person, not a piece of meat. Even if the person doesn't have respect for themselves, why should we deny treating them with respect? Maybe its because of my Southern upbringing but police in certain areas in my experience (I'm acknowledging that my perspective could be wrong on this so correct me if I am) police tend to blame the victim when it comes to stuff like cat calling or view it as a compliment. I'm not saying that she should not call the police concerning cat calls, I'm saying that she might have tried and had experience with police blowing off her abuse or seen the police blow off the abuse of another. Such experiences do disheartens one's attempt to put trust in law enforcement. I would encourage her to try again though since you never know, you might get that one officer who won't blame the victim. I would keep calling until something is done about it. Look up the local law, quote the part the criminal is in violation of, and using the law verbally twist the hand of the law enforcement to do something about it. They need to do their job just like everybody else. I have seen women comfortably wear enough clothes to cover from neck to ankle, including fingers, in 90+ degree weather. Personally I wear my leather jacket any day with no problem. I understand that is all according to the individual, but people adapt. Part of the reason I have trouble sympathizing with the victims of this problem is simply that there are options to solve it themselves. Meanwhile, down in Arizona, there are girls who wear bikini bottoms and stickers for clothing on hot days. Literally, that is it. The stickers cover their nipples. And I have heard them complain about being looked at. Everyone else will be dressed more "decently," but they choose to dress like that with the weather as an excuse then expect horny preteens not to stare. Sorry if this is too graphic here, but that's what I witnessed. I understand a lowcut shirt is a far leap in decency from stickers, but similar logic applies. No, moving away isn't the answer if you're being decent and especially if the weather is not a problem. Neither should a person have to deal with uncivilized barbarians making rude remarks and inappropriate comments. However, when there are ways to deal with the problem and the victim chooses to allow it to happen, that is when I get frustrated. It's like walking down a dark ally obviously loaded with hundred dollar bills in every pocket and expecting some poor starving bum not to rob you. If you set yourself up for the problem then you should expect it to happen.
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Lord Alucard Ere Casanova
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:50 am
Lord Kilo Von Mortenson I would keep calling until something is done about it. Look up the local law, quote the part the criminal is in violation of, and using the law verbally twist the hand of the law enforcement to do something about it. They need to do their job just like everybody else. Agreed on that. Quote: I have seen women comfortably wear enough clothes to cover from neck to ankle, including fingers, in 90+ degree weather. Personally I wear my leather jacket any day with no problem. I understand that is all according to the individual, but people adapt. Part of the reason I have trouble sympathizing with the victims of this problem is simply that there are options to solve it themselves. Meanwhile, down in Arizona, there are girls who wear bikini bottoms and stickers for clothing on hot days. Literally, that is it. The stickers cover their nipples. And I have heard them complain about being looked at. Everyone else will be dressed more "decently," but they choose to dress like that with the weather as an excuse then expect horny preteens not to stare. Sorry if this is too graphic here, but that's what I witnessed. I understand a lowcut shirt is a far leap in decency from stickers, but similar logic applies. No, moving away isn't the answer if you're being decent and especially if the weather is not a problem. Neither should a person have to deal with uncivilized barbarians making rude remarks and inappropriate comments. However, when there are ways to deal with the problem and the victim chooses to allow it to happen, that is when I get frustrated. It's like walking down a dark ally obviously loaded with hundred dollar bills in every pocket and expecting some poor starving bum not to rob you. If you set yourself up for the problem then you should expect it to happen. But again, the clothing is not necessarily the problem. As Elta pointed out there are people with nun and abaya fetishes. Are those people in the wrong? They took the proper precautions but yet they still have horny people ogling them. Women are not the problem, their bodies are not the problem, the problem is dickheads who can't control their hormones and then insist that it's the women's fault. As for your homeless man example, that is a case of survival. A hungry homeless man will literally die if he does not eat. That's not the same situation with a horny person. They will not die if they don't have sex. Also what do think will happen when that homeless man is caught? He'll probably be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. That's not always the case though with women. Judge said the woman's body should have shut down if she didn't want sex
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