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I probably don't even need to say anything for ya'll to know what I'm talking about.

The extremely common Pro-Choice argument: "If you make it illegal, people will just do it illegally! And if people do it illegally, they have a much higher chance of death! Give me liberty or give me death! Viva la resistance!"

First of all, just because people will do it illegally doesn't mean that it should be legal. People rape even though it's illegal. People have sex with minors, even though it's illegal. People murder, steal, and purgurize, even though it's illegal. You catch my meaning? So, given the argument that "If made illegal, it will just be done illegally," everything should be legal. Worldwide anarchy, baby!

Secondly, they state that the people who do it illegally have a much higher chance of death due to it, and this is true. But, again, rapists and murderers and child molesters and thieves are at much higher risk with it illegal. So, again, should we make it all legal?

Thirdly, the proclaiming of "Give me liberty or give me death!" Is more commonly stated as, "If abortion were illegal and I got pregnant, I'd have my husband take a baseball bat to my stomach/Shoot myself/Take dangerous herbs/etc. etc." This one is three parts on it's own:

First of all, it's easy to say that when you are in no danger of actually having to do it. I could say right now that, were a grenade thrown at me and my friends, I would jump on it without second thought. Or if someone were aiming a gun at my friend I would jump in front of it. And I would be being absolutely honest in my belief, more then I can say of many of the people who claim they would illegally seek a dangerous abortive method anyways. But even then, I wouldn't know for sure whether it's true until it happens.

Second, if you -are- being honest, you are an idiot. Threatening your own life in order to destroy that of your offspring? When you could just wait 9 months, tops, for him/her to be born naturally and then give him/her up for adoption or whatever, thus keeping yourself completely safe? Fool.

Most importantly, though, I think that a big problem with this is how it glorifies this view. In referring to it as though it were a "resistance," as though those who would do these things are "freedom fighters" as opposed to "morons," you create the feeling that, "Hey, if it becomes illegal, I am morally obligated to do it illegally and die as a martyr!" I would say that this is akin to Pro-Lifers supporting the fire-bombing of abortion clinics. "With it (il)legal, we are obligated to do stupid things and get thrown in jail in order to push our views!" This is ridiculous.

Please, discuss!

yes, i hate that argument so much, it's so idiotically founded- of course people will still try to do it- but LESS people will, and those who do know the risks.

(Applauds, too) I agree, completely, too. It's just an annoying argument that needs to shut itself up.

I just saw a post in the GD that was built upon the whole "if it's illegal, they'll still do it in backalleys!" arguement. It made me want to scream.

I'm to the point where I don't even want to bother arguing anymore. People don't listen anyway.

which is, by the way, an exageration, much like when we show partial birth abortions, knowing that they are illegal in america- it is really just propaganda, making it sound worse than it really is for sympathy.

Amen!

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Which just goes to show that the rumours are true: GD has become just as bad as the Chatterbox.

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And ED is on its way, with so much bashing and trolling and flaming. It's terrible.

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yes, it will be murder- then, the pro-choice will be pro-murder, and any who have had abortions will be murderers. by legal definition, of course.