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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:37 am


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No bashing please =<


Ok so at work today I saw one of my managers, it was her day off and she came up to my section with her "wife" and daughter...
Then another on of my managers is gay, and there are a bunch of transgender and gay co-workers.

I am not bashing gay people, I have gay friends and love them dearly.
I do not hate them at all.

But I asked God on how to see this and I just feel upset, I'm not mad at these people I'm just well sad.
I asked God if it was a sin and when I see people act on this impulse I just feel sorrow. This makes me think that in fact that it is a sin.

I don't know why I'm sharing this random bit of information, but it's nice to get it off my chest as it was bringing me down for a bit.
I like the fact that I can post something like this here and not be yelled at or bashed like I would if I posted this in a random forum.

Still though what do you guys think about this?

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:05 am


I've been convicted of the same thing, and even though I rebelled against those convictions, the Holy Spirit convinced me right back again. I'm taking it on faith that if he instructs us to have a certain structure in the family design, it's for our own benefit even if we don't see the harm. I agree with him when he says His wisdom is deeper than our own (is 55:8-9, Job 9:4); I don't know the consequences our Heavenly Father is keeping us from, or whatever it is he foresaw when he gave us these commands (in terms of how it can affect society, and how it would apply to each generation the more and more humanity changed or departed from him), but I have faith that they'll keep us safe when heeded. It's his job to convict whoever has ears to hear.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:39 pm


I find I have a lot of gay and trans gendered friends as well as friends of other beliefs. I always treat it as loving my neighbor and I pray for my friends but know that I love them and God loves them. I will just keep praying for them and loving them.
PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:27 am


I am interested in your use of the word "impulse". I'm not really sure what you mean... you are saying it is an impulse to get married and raise children? Most people I think consider what it means to be married quite seriously before taking that step.

You may (or may not) enjoy this documentary on being Christian and gay, and different people's views. I found it a rather beautiful example of how much love can be found in Christianity.

(However I would recommend you do not read the comments. Some of them are anti-Christian.)

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 9:07 am


What can I really say, except that you and I have arrived at very different conclusions on this issue.

As a homosexual, this is obviously something that I've prayed long and hard about many, many times, and if it is a sin to have a loving relationship with someone of the same sex, God certainly hasn't given me any signs that it is. Quite the contrary, actually. I truly believe that God brought my partner into my life for a reason, and it's not for him to be my drinking buddy. I wouldn't be alive if it wasn't for him. I would have lost my faith a long time ago if it wasn't for him.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 7:22 am


Though I may be atheist, and though I may also believe in giving people space to be themselves and so forth... I too feel there is something wrong with this. Without religious backing, my justification is in design. A man procreates with a woman, and not another man. It's been argued that since procreation is not longer required, that it shouldn't matter. Still seems out of place though. The second is social. Sure, it may be a personal decision and so forth, but the children of same sex parents are going to be dealing with a lot of social stigma. Much of which can be quite negative. For this one I'm told it's just like blacks getting equal rights. For a time, few could conceive it, but today, we don't know how we were so barbaric back in the day. So I'm told as a society we will get over it.

I can relate to what you feel about it. I haven't prayed about it, but something just feels wrong about it. And I don't have a practical justification for it. It just feels wrong. Thing I'm worried about, is if I condition myself to overlook what feels wrong, to fit into the modern mold, what's to prevent me from becomming something of a monster later on down the road? As such, I keep my convictions, but I keep them to myself. If people ask for my view, I tell them. And it's not a hateful one, so I can relate to how you feel about it. Like you, I still love and care about my friends and family who do this, I just don't agree with it.

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