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 Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 4:27 pm
*dances around* It gets a lot of hate, I know, but I can't wait to play it.
...Well... actually I CAN wait, since I have a stack of games to play. But you know what I mean.
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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:00 pm
Feriku *dances around* It gets a lot of hate, I know, but I can't wait to play it. ...Well... actually I CAN wait, since I have a stack of games to play. But you know what I mean. Yeah, okay SM is okay, definitely not a true Silent Hill game though. BU
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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 12:05 pm
Silent Harry Mason Feriku *dances around* It gets a lot of hate, I know, but I can't wait to play it. ...Well... actually I CAN wait, since I have a stack of games to play. But you know what I mean. Yeah, okay SM is okay, definitely not a true Silent Hill game though. BU I do and always will disagree with you on that. razz
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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:39 pm
Feriku Silent Harry Mason Feriku *dances around* It gets a lot of hate, I know, but I can't wait to play it. ...Well... actually I CAN wait, since I have a stack of games to play. But you know what I mean. Yeah, okay SM is okay, definitely not a true Silent Hill game though. BU I do and always will disagree with you on that. razz So why do you think it is a real SH game? I mean you can like it, but lets face the facts here. It has nothing to really do with the series other than being based on the bad ending of the first game, it is a bad spin-off of the first game with nothing but repetitive monsters, and ice. It had a decent plot in terms of where it went, but it was poorly executed in many ways, it was lacking so many things, and no matter what you did, Harry seemed like the a*****e in the ending, it was a big middle finger at best.
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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 2:24 pm
Silent Harry Mason Feriku Silent Harry Mason Feriku *dances around* It gets a lot of hate, I know, but I can't wait to play it. ...Well... actually I CAN wait, since I have a stack of games to play. But you know what I mean. Yeah, okay SM is okay, definitely not a true Silent Hill game though. BU I do and always will disagree with you on that. razz So why do you think it is a real SH game? I mean you can like it, but lets face the facts here. It has nothing to really do with the series other than being based on the bad ending of the first game, it is a bad spin-off of the first game with nothing but repetitive monsters, and ice. It had a decent plot in terms of where it went, but it was poorly executed in many ways, it was lacking so many things, and no matter what you did, Harry seemed like the a*****e in the ending, it was a big middle finger at best. Harry came off just fine in several of the endings; what are you talking about?? 0_0 Okay, as for what I think it is a real SH game--my top answer will always be the atmosphere. It's one of the strongest reasons I disliked Origins, in fact. Origins, despite tying directly into Alessa's story and having the standard marks of a Silent Hill game, seemed to completely lack the Silent Hill atmosphere. There should be a sense of isolation, of fear, of what-the-heck-is-going-on-here. Shattered Memories's Harry seemed completely isolated, and the ice, the streets, and the fact that reality seemed different for him than it was for everyone else just served to exacerbate that fact. When it comes to the mind screws, it was full of them, to the point where not only do you spend most of the game wondering what was going on, but deciding afterwards what was going on is still up for debate. A majority of people are content to say that it's simply non-canon, but when there are at least three different theories that fit it into continuity with the rest, that says something.
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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 2:43 pm
Feriku Silent Harry Mason Feriku Silent Harry Mason Feriku *dances around* It gets a lot of hate, I know, but I can't wait to play it. ...Well... actually I CAN wait, since I have a stack of games to play. But you know what I mean. Yeah, okay SM is okay, definitely not a true Silent Hill game though. BU I do and always will disagree with you on that. razz So why do you think it is a real SH game? I mean you can like it, but lets face the facts here. It has nothing to really do with the series other than being based on the bad ending of the first game, it is a bad spin-off of the first game with nothing but repetitive monsters, and ice. It had a decent plot in terms of where it went, but it was poorly executed in many ways, it was lacking so many things, and no matter what you did, Harry seemed like the a*****e in the ending, it was a big middle finger at best. Harry came off just fine in several of the endings; what are you talking about?? 0_0 Okay, as for what I think it is a real SH game--my top answer will always be the atmosphere. It's one of the strongest reasons I disliked Origins, in fact. Origins, despite tying directly into Alessa's story and having the standard marks of a Silent Hill game, seemed to completely lack the Silent Hill atmosphere. There should be a sense of isolation, of fear, of what-the-heck-is-going-on-here. Shattered Memories's Harry seemed completely isolated, and the ice, the streets, and the fact that reality seemed different for him than it was for everyone else just served to exacerbate that fact. When it comes to the mind screws, it was full of them, to the point where not only do you spend most of the game wondering what was going on, but deciding afterwards what was going on is still up for debate. A majority of people are content to say that it's simply non-canon, but when there are at least three different theories that fit it into continuity with the rest, that says something. Isolated? There were so many people in it , and silly audio recordings. It seemed more lifelike than you make it out to be. Another thing is that it had no atmosphere that seemed scary, you get a little ice every time something bad happened, and it was sadly predictable. The monsters constantly raping you, and the knowing that they are around the corner makes it no better than your typical horror game because you know they won't be in the regular normal area of Silent Hill, but will nearly instantly appear when it gets icy. It had a slight ********. No, Harry appeared bad in most of them, drunken father, husband that isn't strong enough, husband that cheats on his wife, LOLWUT UFOS!, or Just a who knows? Not a hero, just a false memory of somebody who was killed in a car wreck are your options. The theories are silly and can't be regarded, there is no evidence to tie it really with any other game in the series than the first one, and Heather's name doesn't count for much, I'm not saying that nothing was good about it, but it wasn't a Silent Hill game because of how they eliminated many important aspects to the game that was actually enjoyable about the first four, I guess that is where our opinions go separate ways. EDIT: I hope you don't see me as attacking you. sweatdrop I'm not trying to come off that way.
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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 3:21 pm
Silent Harry Mason Feriku Silent Harry Mason Feriku Silent Harry Mason Feriku *dances around* It gets a lot of hate, I know, but I can't wait to play it. ...Well... actually I CAN wait, since I have a stack of games to play. But you know what I mean. Yeah, okay SM is okay, definitely not a true Silent Hill game though. BU I do and always will disagree with you on that. razz So why do you think it is a real SH game? I mean you can like it, but lets face the facts here. It has nothing to really do with the series other than being based on the bad ending of the first game, it is a bad spin-off of the first game with nothing but repetitive monsters, and ice. It had a decent plot in terms of where it went, but it was poorly executed in many ways, it was lacking so many things, and no matter what you did, Harry seemed like the a*****e in the ending, it was a big middle finger at best. Harry came off just fine in several of the endings; what are you talking about?? 0_0 Okay, as for what I think it is a real SH game--my top answer will always be the atmosphere. It's one of the strongest reasons I disliked Origins, in fact. Origins, despite tying directly into Alessa's story and having the standard marks of a Silent Hill game, seemed to completely lack the Silent Hill atmosphere. There should be a sense of isolation, of fear, of what-the-heck-is-going-on-here. Shattered Memories's Harry seemed completely isolated, and the ice, the streets, and the fact that reality seemed different for him than it was for everyone else just served to exacerbate that fact. When it comes to the mind screws, it was full of them, to the point where not only do you spend most of the game wondering what was going on, but deciding afterwards what was going on is still up for debate. A majority of people are content to say that it's simply non-canon, but when there are at least three different theories that fit it into continuity with the rest, that says something. Isolated? There were so many people in it , and silly audio recordings. It seemed more lifelike than you make it out to be. Another thing is that it had no atmosphere that seemed scary, you get a little ice every time something bad happened, and it was sadly predictable. The monsters constantly raping you, and the knowing that they are around the corner makes it no better than your typical horror game because you know they won't be in the regular normal area of Silent Hill, but will nearly instantly appear when it gets icy. It had a slight ********. No, Harry appeared bad in most of them, drunken father, husband that isn't strong enough, husband that cheats on his wife, LOLWUT UFOS!, or Just a who knows? Not a hero, just a false memory of somebody who was killed in a car wreck are your options. The theories are silly and can't be regarded, there is no evidence to tie it really with any other game in the series than the first one, and Heather's name doesn't count for much, I'm not saying that nothing was good about it, but it wasn't a Silent Hill game because of how they eliminated many important aspects to the game that was actually enjoyable about the first four, I guess that is where our opinions go separate ways. EDIT: I hope you don't see me as attacking you. sweatdrop I'm not trying to come off that way. Well, a lot of this is entirely opinion, and we seem to have exact opposite opinions. razz For example, to me it just seemed like no matter how many people Harry actually interacted with, what it all came down to was that he was alone in a world that was not matching up with reality. I don't think Dahlia being abusive or just having a marriage that didn't work out make Harry a bad person. razz And no, I don't see this as you attacking me. I see this as something we are just never, ever going to agree on. ...Which is the conclusion I've come to every other time we've discussed the game, so I'm not sure why it keeps coming up. rofl
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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 3:36 pm
Feriku Silent Harry Mason Feriku Silent Harry Mason Feriku I do and always will disagree with you on that. razz So why do you think it is a real SH game? I mean you can like it, but lets face the facts here. It has nothing to really do with the series other than being based on the bad ending of the first game, it is a bad spin-off of the first game with nothing but repetitive monsters, and ice. It had a decent plot in terms of where it went, but it was poorly executed in many ways, it was lacking so many things, and no matter what you did, Harry seemed like the a*****e in the ending, it was a big middle finger at best. Harry came off just fine in several of the endings; what are you talking about?? 0_0 Okay, as for what I think it is a real SH game--my top answer will always be the atmosphere. It's one of the strongest reasons I disliked Origins, in fact. Origins, despite tying directly into Alessa's story and having the standard marks of a Silent Hill game, seemed to completely lack the Silent Hill atmosphere. There should be a sense of isolation, of fear, of what-the-heck-is-going-on-here. Shattered Memories's Harry seemed completely isolated, and the ice, the streets, and the fact that reality seemed different for him than it was for everyone else just served to exacerbate that fact. When it comes to the mind screws, it was full of them, to the point where not only do you spend most of the game wondering what was going on, but deciding afterwards what was going on is still up for debate. A majority of people are content to say that it's simply non-canon, but when there are at least three different theories that fit it into continuity with the rest, that says something. Isolated? There were so many people in it , and silly audio recordings. It seemed more lifelike than you make it out to be. Another thing is that it had no atmosphere that seemed scary, you get a little ice every time something bad happened, and it was sadly predictable. The monsters constantly raping you, and the knowing that they are around the corner makes it no better than your typical horror game because you know they won't be in the regular normal area of Silent Hill, but will nearly instantly appear when it gets icy. It had a slight ********. No, Harry appeared bad in most of them, drunken father, husband that isn't strong enough, husband that cheats on his wife, LOLWUT UFOS!, or Just a who knows? Not a hero, just a false memory of somebody who was killed in a car wreck are your options. The theories are silly and can't be regarded, there is no evidence to tie it really with any other game in the series than the first one, and Heather's name doesn't count for much, I'm not saying that nothing was good about it, but it wasn't a Silent Hill game because of how they eliminated many important aspects to the game that was actually enjoyable about the first four, I guess that is where our opinions go separate ways. EDIT: I hope you don't see me as attacking you. sweatdrop I'm not trying to come off that way. Well, a lot of this is entirely opinion, and we seem to have exact opposite opinions. razz For example, to me it just seemed like no matter how many people Harry actually interacted with, what it all came down to was that he was alone in a world that was not matching up with reality. I don't think Dahlia being abusive or just having a marriage that didn't work out make Harry a bad person. razz And no, I don't see this as you attacking me. I see this as something we are just never, ever going to agree on. ...Which is the conclusion I've come to every other time we've discussed the game, so I'm not sure why it keeps coming up. rofl I wasn't referring to Dahlia specifically, I meant how he was obviously lusty in the chutes and ladders ending. xD It makes me sadface. >U> At any rate, nothing is going to change the previous games, if Downpour actually is good enough, I hope it gets the team to work on making a successful continuation of the series somewhere up there. I'm sure that an American team can do it if they just try to follow the guideline and mindset that KCET had in mind instead of throwing typical ideas in there, and if enough people do buy Downpour, I hope it doesn't promote to further weaken the series. D:
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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 3:47 pm
Silent Harry Mason Feriku Silent Harry Mason Feriku Silent Harry Mason Feriku I do and always will disagree with you on that. razz So why do you think it is a real SH game? I mean you can like it, but lets face the facts here. It has nothing to really do with the series other than being based on the bad ending of the first game, it is a bad spin-off of the first game with nothing but repetitive monsters, and ice. It had a decent plot in terms of where it went, but it was poorly executed in many ways, it was lacking so many things, and no matter what you did, Harry seemed like the a*****e in the ending, it was a big middle finger at best. Harry came off just fine in several of the endings; what are you talking about?? 0_0 Okay, as for what I think it is a real SH game--my top answer will always be the atmosphere. It's one of the strongest reasons I disliked Origins, in fact. Origins, despite tying directly into Alessa's story and having the standard marks of a Silent Hill game, seemed to completely lack the Silent Hill atmosphere. There should be a sense of isolation, of fear, of what-the-heck-is-going-on-here. Shattered Memories's Harry seemed completely isolated, and the ice, the streets, and the fact that reality seemed different for him than it was for everyone else just served to exacerbate that fact. When it comes to the mind screws, it was full of them, to the point where not only do you spend most of the game wondering what was going on, but deciding afterwards what was going on is still up for debate. A majority of people are content to say that it's simply non-canon, but when there are at least three different theories that fit it into continuity with the rest, that says something. Isolated? There were so many people in it , and silly audio recordings. It seemed more lifelike than you make it out to be. Another thing is that it had no atmosphere that seemed scary, you get a little ice every time something bad happened, and it was sadly predictable. The monsters constantly raping you, and the knowing that they are around the corner makes it no better than your typical horror game because you know they won't be in the regular normal area of Silent Hill, but will nearly instantly appear when it gets icy. It had a slight ********. No, Harry appeared bad in most of them, drunken father, husband that isn't strong enough, husband that cheats on his wife, LOLWUT UFOS!, or Just a who knows? Not a hero, just a false memory of somebody who was killed in a car wreck are your options. The theories are silly and can't be regarded, there is no evidence to tie it really with any other game in the series than the first one, and Heather's name doesn't count for much, I'm not saying that nothing was good about it, but it wasn't a Silent Hill game because of how they eliminated many important aspects to the game that was actually enjoyable about the first four, I guess that is where our opinions go separate ways. EDIT: I hope you don't see me as attacking you. sweatdrop I'm not trying to come off that way. Well, a lot of this is entirely opinion, and we seem to have exact opposite opinions. razz For example, to me it just seemed like no matter how many people Harry actually interacted with, what it all came down to was that he was alone in a world that was not matching up with reality. I don't think Dahlia being abusive or just having a marriage that didn't work out make Harry a bad person. razz And no, I don't see this as you attacking me. I see this as something we are just never, ever going to agree on. ...Which is the conclusion I've come to every other time we've discussed the game, so I'm not sure why it keeps coming up. rofl I wasn't referring to Dahlia specifically, I meant how he was obviously lusty in the chutes and ladders ending. xD It makes me sadface. >U> At any rate, nothing is going to change the previous games, if Downpour actually is good enough, I hope it gets the team to work on making a successful continuation of the series somewhere up there. I'm sure that an American team can do it if they just try to follow the guideline and mindset that KCET had in mind instead of throwing typical ideas in there, and if enough people do buy Downpour, I hope it doesn't promote to further weaken the series. D: I was referring to the Wicked and Weak (I think that's what it's called) ending. Well, if the "no connection to anything" mindset of Downpour's developers has one good thing going for it, it's that they should avoid cliches or things done just for fanservice.
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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 3:51 pm
Feriku Silent Harry Mason Feriku Silent Harry Mason Feriku xd Harry came off just fine in several of the endings; what are you talking about?? 0_0 Okay, as for what I think it is a real SH game--my top answer will always be the atmosphere. It's one of the strongest reasons I disliked Origins, in fact. Origins, despite tying directly into Alessa's story and having the standard marks of a Silent Hill game, seemed to completely lack the Silent Hill atmosphere. There should be a sense of isolation, of fear, of what-the-heck-is-going-on-here. Shattered Memories's Harry seemed completely isolated, and the ice, the streets, and the fact that reality seemed different for him than it was for everyone else just served to exacerbate that fact. When it comes to the mind screws, it was full of them, to the point where not only do you spend most of the game wondering what was going on, but deciding afterwards what was going on is still up for debate. A majority of people are content to say that it's simply non-canon, but when there are at least three different theories that fit it into continuity with the rest, that says something. Isolated? There were so many people in it , and silly audio recordings. It seemed more lifelike than you make it out to be. Another thing is that it had no atmosphere that seemed scary, you get a little ice every time something bad happened, and it was sadly predictable. The monsters constantly raping you, and the knowing that they are around the corner makes it no better than your typical horror game because you know they won't be in the regular normal area of Silent Hill, but will nearly instantly appear when it gets icy. It had a slight ********. No, Harry appeared bad in most of them, drunken father, husband that isn't strong enough, husband that cheats on his wife, LOLWUT UFOS!, or Just a who knows? Not a hero, just a false memory of somebody who was killed in a car wreck are your options. The theories are silly and can't be regarded, there is no evidence to tie it really with any other game in the series than the first one, and Heather's name doesn't count for much, I'm not saying that nothing was good about it, but it wasn't a Silent Hill game because of how they eliminated many important aspects to the game that was actually enjoyable about the first four, I guess that is where our opinions go separate ways. EDIT: I hope you don't see me as attacking you. sweatdrop I'm not trying to come off that way. Well, a lot of this is entirely opinion, and we seem to have exact opposite opinions. razz For example, to me it just seemed like no matter how many people Harry actually interacted with, what it all came down to was that he was alone in a world that was not matching up with reality. I don't think Dahlia being abusive or just having a marriage that didn't work out make Harry a bad person. razz And no, I don't see this as you attacking me. I see this as something we are just never, ever going to agree on. ...Which is the conclusion I've come to every other time we've discussed the game, so I'm not sure why it keeps coming up. rofl I wasn't referring to Dahlia specifically, I meant how he was obviously lusty in the chutes and ladders ending. xD It makes me sadface. >U> At any rate, nothing is going to change the previous games, if Downpour actually is good enough, I hope it gets the team to work on making a successful continuation of the series somewhere up there. I'm sure that an American team can do it if they just try to follow the guideline and mindset that KCET had in mind instead of throwing typical ideas in there, and if enough people do buy Downpour, I hope it doesn't promote to further weaken the series. D: I was referring to the Wicked and Weak (I think that's what it's called) ending. Well, if the "no connection to anything" mindset of Downpour's developers has one good thing going for it, it's that they should avoid cliches or things done just for fanservice. Well obviously avoid cliches, but still, it would be good to have another game involving the cult... DONE RIGHT. Bc I'd imagine they would mention Alessa, talk about some plot to recapture Heather, even if she isn't actually seen in game, maybe you are some fresh protagonist that indirectly stops the cult from preforming their plan.
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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 3:53 pm
Silent Harry Mason Well obviously avoid cliches, but still, it would be good to have another game involving the cult... DONE RIGHT. Bc I'd imagine they would mention Alessa, talk about some plot to recapture Heather, even if she isn't actually seen in game, maybe you are some fresh protagonist that indirectly stops the cult from preforming their plan. Unfortunately, they hate the cult, unless they're lying to fool us. crying I've thought for some time now that I should write a fanfic where Walter is reincarnated Alessa/Heather-style and the Order goes after him. xd
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Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:24 pm
Feriku Silent Harry Mason Well obviously avoid cliches, but still, it would be good to have another game involving the cult... DONE RIGHT. Bc I'd imagine they would mention Alessa, talk about some plot to recapture Heather, even if she isn't actually seen in game, maybe you are some fresh protagonist that indirectly stops the cult from preforming their plan. Unfortunately, they hate the cult, unless they're lying to fool us. crying I've thought for some time now that I should write a fanfic where Walter is reincarnated Alessa/Heather-style and the Order goes after him. xd But why would they go after him? He doesn't have psychic powers like Alessa I thought, it is just that they used the 21 sacraments as a backup plan.
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 6:58 am
Silent Harry Mason Feriku Silent Harry Mason Well obviously avoid cliches, but still, it would be good to have another game involving the cult... DONE RIGHT. Bc I'd imagine they would mention Alessa, talk about some plot to recapture Heather, even if she isn't actually seen in game, maybe you are some fresh protagonist that indirectly stops the cult from preforming their plan. Unfortunately, they hate the cult, unless they're lying to fool us. crying I've thought for some time now that I should write a fanfic where Walter is reincarnated Alessa/Heather-style and the Order goes after him. xd But why would they go after him? He doesn't have psychic powers like Alessa I thought, it is just that they used the 21 sacraments as a backup plan. Hey, I didn't work out all the details yet. rofl Who knows what a reincarnated Walter would be like? Well, the wiki (which could be mistaken, of course) gives the impression that there was an entire sect of the cult that believed their god would be summoned by a Conjurer, rather than birthed by a woman. Though Dahlia was definitely using it as a backup plan.
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:00 pm
Feriku Silent Harry Mason Feriku Silent Harry Mason Well obviously avoid cliches, but still, it would be good to have another game involving the cult... DONE RIGHT. Bc I'd imagine they would mention Alessa, talk about some plot to recapture Heather, even if she isn't actually seen in game, maybe you are some fresh protagonist that indirectly stops the cult from preforming their plan. Unfortunately, they hate the cult, unless they're lying to fool us. crying I've thought for some time now that I should write a fanfic where Walter is reincarnated Alessa/Heather-style and the Order goes after him. xd But why would they go after him? He doesn't have psychic powers like Alessa I thought, it is just that they used the 21 sacraments as a backup plan. Hey, I didn't work out all the details yet. rofl Who knows what a reincarnated Walter would be like? Well, the wiki (which could be mistaken, of course) gives the impression that there was an entire sect of the cult that believed their god would be summoned by a Conjurer, rather than birthed by a woman. Though Dahlia was definitely using it as a backup plan. Well considering the wiki makes mistakes a lot that they haven't fixed, I would have to be sure. Anyways this guide has always been useful to me when it comes to finding out details, and looking at what is canon vs. what isn't. Even if you don't agree with everything, it certainly is useful to go from: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDEHuzeOr9M&list=PL87676CF7D0B816B4&feature=plcp&context=C420bf8dFDvjVQa1PpcFOhZ4oK4Nhe8v3X-u94w8RnvujiBQCXVY4= I believe it is set to go to the next one once it is finished.
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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:24 am
Silent Harry Mason Feriku Silent Harry Mason Feriku Silent Harry Mason Well obviously avoid cliches, but still, it would be good to have another game involving the cult... DONE RIGHT. Bc I'd imagine they would mention Alessa, talk about some plot to recapture Heather, even if she isn't actually seen in game, maybe you are some fresh protagonist that indirectly stops the cult from preforming their plan. Unfortunately, they hate the cult, unless they're lying to fool us. crying I've thought for some time now that I should write a fanfic where Walter is reincarnated Alessa/Heather-style and the Order goes after him. xd But why would they go after him? He doesn't have psychic powers like Alessa I thought, it is just that they used the 21 sacraments as a backup plan. Hey, I didn't work out all the details yet. rofl Who knows what a reincarnated Walter would be like? Well, the wiki (which could be mistaken, of course) gives the impression that there was an entire sect of the cult that believed their god would be summoned by a Conjurer, rather than birthed by a woman. Though Dahlia was definitely using it as a backup plan. Well considering the wiki makes mistakes a lot that they haven't fixed, I would have to be sure. Anyways this guide has always been useful to me when it comes to finding out details, and looking at what is canon vs. what isn't. Even if you don't agree with everything, it certainly is useful to go from: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDEHuzeOr9M&list=PL87676CF7D0B816B4&feature=plcp&context=C420bf8dFDvjVQa1PpcFOhZ4oK4Nhe8v3X-u94w8RnvujiBQCXVY4= I believe it is set to go to the next one once it is finished. I'll have to check it out sometime.
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