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 Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:29 pm
How do you feel about the Stop Online Piracy Act? Personally, I hope that bill doesn't pass. It would kill the internet and stop random guys from singing karaoke on YouTube. crying (Not to mention that it would make it next to impossible for anime and j-drama addicts to get their fix! It's already hard enough trying to find the live action Kuroshitsuji movies online. I can't imagine what further blockage would do. Plus, most anime and j-drama isn't available in the US, so we would really be limited in our foreign viewing! That's not good for global policies. We need to be able to learn about other cultures through their programming!)
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Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:10 pm
Personally, I hope the thing dies in committee and never gets anywhere.
I am one of those people who is of the opinion that if SOPA does make its way to President Obama's desk, he will sign it into law then declare it as a victory for the American people and jobs in the US. After all SOPA's biggest supporters include Hollywood, which were among Obama's biggest supporters during his first election.
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Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 6:20 pm
I haven't read the Bill or had anyone tell me exactly what it is intended to do,
so I'm not sure how I feel about it.
What would really worry me is if it prevented us from getting some types of information entirely.
That's too close to Orson Wells' 1984 for my comfort.
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Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 8:51 pm
Sachie Whitby Personally, I hope the thing dies in committee and never gets anywhere. I am one of those people who is of the opinion that if SOPA does make its way to President Obama's desk, he will sign it into law then declare it as a victory for the American people and jobs in the US. After all SOPA's biggest supporters include Hollywood, which were among Obama's biggest supporters during his first election. Of course Hollywood would support it. xp What I can't figure out is why anyone else would support it. The internet is how most of the small guys get popular. I'm not a fan of Justin Bieber, but I respect that he rose to popularity though singing karaoke versions of songs on YouTube. If SOPA were passed before he rose to fame, he would have never even gotten the chance. A lot of industries would suffer because of it. I wouldn't know what manga to buy if I couldn't read it online first! I also don't buy animes that I haven't already watched, just to make sure I'm not wasting my money (because I've seen some real stinkers). A crazy level of censorship wouldn't do anyone a favor except for people who are already insanely wealthy. I hope Obama wouldn't sign it into law. Hopefully he would listen to the disgruntled citizens. @ GreenInkling - It would pretty much take the copyright laws to the extreme online. It's the "Stop Online Piracy Act." If you enjoy watching anime online, you wouldn't be able to do that anymore if it was passed. They wouldn't just give people a slap on the wrist or a warning for it either. There would be some serious consequences. Fan-made videos would be illegal. It's so bad that you could even get up to five years in prison if your cell phone ringer goes off in the background while you're doing a video blog on YouTube if it's a copyrighted song. It's craziness! It would be the death of YouTube as we know it. I'm all about freeing the internet.
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Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 9:16 pm
LilChibiusa Sachie Whitby Personally, I hope the thing dies in committee and never gets anywhere. I am one of those people who is of the opinion that if SOPA does make its way to President Obama's desk, he will sign it into law then declare it as a victory for the American people and jobs in the US. After all SOPA's biggest supporters include Hollywood, which were among Obama's biggest supporters during his first election. Of course Hollywood would support it. xp What I can't figure out is why anyone else would support it. The internet is how most of the small guys get popular. I'm not a fan of Justin Bieber, but I respect that he rose to popularity though singing karaoke versions of songs on YouTube. If SOPA were passed before he rose to fame, he would have never even gotten the chance. A lot of industries would suffer because of it. I wouldn't know what manga to buy if I couldn't read it online first! I also don't buy animes that I haven't already watched, just to make sure I'm not wasting my money (because I've seen some real stinkers). A crazy level of censorship wouldn't do anyone a favor except for people who are already insanely wealthy. I hope Obama wouldn't sign it into law. Hopefully he would listen to the disgruntled citizens. @ GreenInkling - It would pretty much take the copyright laws to the extreme online. It's the "Stop Online Piracy Act." If you enjoy watching anime online, you wouldn't be able to do that anymore if it was passed. They wouldn't just give people a slap on the wrist or a warning for it either. There would be some serious consequences. Fan-made videos would be illegal. It's so bad that you could even get up to five years in prison if your cell phone ringer goes off in the background while you're doing a video blog on YouTube if it's a copyrighted song. It's craziness! It would be the death of YouTube as we know it. I'm all about freeing the internet. SOPA is essentially Hollywood and the Recording Industry versus the Internet. The only thing about that which is ironic is that there are some music groups [like Franz Ferdinand] that would rather have their fans pirate all of their currently out of print single b-sides than pay ridiculous ebay prices to buy the single. Under SOPA, those fans would still be prosecuted as criminals even though the artist themselves do not care. Oh and while not a fan of Justin Bieber, I have quite a bit of respect for the kid. He's actually spoken out against SOPA and isn't being a hypocrite about it. Abandonware would also be completely eliminated from the Internet. Although technically a form of software piracy, most abandonware sites do will only upload old games that are truly abandoned where there software publisher is either out of business or just does not care. Under SOPA, it doesn't matter that Ultima Worlds of Adventure 2: Martian Dreams is so out of print that Origin doesn't even have copies themselves to put the game back into print. You'd have to go to ebay and pay $91 for a game that is on 5.25 floppy discs. I don't think those kind of drives are even made anymore. SOPA also makes me wonder what would happen to sites like gamefaqs.com or any other gaming site which focuses entirely on walkthoughs and hints for video & computer games. Technically it could be argued that these sites pirate information that would be found in a hintbook, even if a hintbook doesn't actually exist in most cases. The only thing that will keep President Obama from signing SOPA into law is if SOPA becomes so toxic that it becomes political poison. If that happens, SOPA will die in committee and never make it to the House floor for voting nor to Obama's desk. I think his track record has shown that he doesn't listen to the citizens all that much... just does what he wants, declares it a victory for American jobs, then runs off to go on vacation at the first sign of any trouble.
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Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 9:57 pm
Sachie Whitby SOPA is essentially Hollywood and the Recording Industry versus the Internet. The only thing about that which is ironic is that there are some music groups [like Franz Ferdinand] that would rather have their fans pirate all of their currently out of print single b-sides than pay ridiculous ebay prices to buy the single. Under SOPA, those fans would still be prosecuted as criminals even though the artist themselves do not care. Oh and while not a fan of Justin Bieber, I have quite a bit of respect for the kid. He's actually spoken out against SOPA and isn't being a hypocrite about it. Abandonware would also be completely eliminated from the Internet. Although technically a form of software piracy, most abandonware sites do will only upload old games that are truly abandoned where there software publisher is either out of business or just does not care. Under SOPA, it doesn't matter that Ultima Worlds of Adventure 2: Martian Dreams is so out of print that Origin doesn't even have copies themselves to put the game back into print. You'd have to go to ebay and pay $91 for a game that is on 5.25 floppy discs. I don't think those kind of drives are even made anymore. SOPA also makes me wonder what would happen to sites like gamefaqs.com or any other gaming site which focuses entirely on walkthoughs and hints for video & computer games. Technically it could be argued that these sites pirate information that would be found in a hintbook, even if a hintbook doesn't actually exist in most cases. The only thing that will keep President Obama from signing SOPA into law is if SOPA becomes so toxic that it becomes political poison. If that happens, SOPA will die in committee and never make it to the House floor for voting nor to Obama's desk. I think his track record has shown that he doesn't listen to the citizens all that much... just does what he wants, declares it a victory for American jobs, then runs off to go on vacation at the first sign of any trouble. I haven't met anyone yet who was in favor of it, so hopefully enough people will contact their representatives about it. I heard that GoDaddy.com used to support the act, and their customers started leaving them by the truckloads, even after they changed their minds and declared themselves neutral on the issue. The internet is still fairly new territory for everyone, and information on it shouldn't be viewed in the same way that physical objects in stores are viewed. I can't imagine an internet without copyright infringement. What would be left?
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Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 10:03 pm
LilChibiusa Sachie Whitby SOPA is essentially Hollywood and the Recording Industry versus the Internet. The only thing about that which is ironic is that there are some music groups [like Franz Ferdinand] that would rather have their fans pirate all of their currently out of print single b-sides than pay ridiculous ebay prices to buy the single. Under SOPA, those fans would still be prosecuted as criminals even though the artist themselves do not care. Oh and while not a fan of Justin Bieber, I have quite a bit of respect for the kid. He's actually spoken out against SOPA and isn't being a hypocrite about it. Abandonware would also be completely eliminated from the Internet. Although technically a form of software piracy, most abandonware sites do will only upload old games that are truly abandoned where there software publisher is either out of business or just does not care. Under SOPA, it doesn't matter that Ultima Worlds of Adventure 2: Martian Dreams is so out of print that Origin doesn't even have copies themselves to put the game back into print. You'd have to go to ebay and pay $91 for a game that is on 5.25 floppy discs. I don't think those kind of drives are even made anymore. SOPA also makes me wonder what would happen to sites like gamefaqs.com or any other gaming site which focuses entirely on walkthoughs and hints for video & computer games. Technically it could be argued that these sites pirate information that would be found in a hintbook, even if a hintbook doesn't actually exist in most cases. The only thing that will keep President Obama from signing SOPA into law is if SOPA becomes so toxic that it becomes political poison. If that happens, SOPA will die in committee and never make it to the House floor for voting nor to Obama's desk. I think his track record has shown that he doesn't listen to the citizens all that much... just does what he wants, declares it a victory for American jobs, then runs off to go on vacation at the first sign of any trouble. I haven't met anyone yet who was in favor of it, so hopefully enough people will contact their representatives about it. I heard that GoDaddy.com used to support the act, and their customers started leaving them by the truckloads, even after they changed their minds and declared themselves neutral on the issue. The internet is still fairly new territory for everyone, and information on it shouldn't be viewed in the same way that physical objects in stores are viewed. I can't imagine an internet without copyright infringement. What would be left? I think that most people who actually use the Internet knows that the bulk of the piracy goes on things like IRC and file sharing programs like bitTorrent. SOPA is pretty much a blanket way to go after everyone and not just the actual pirates.
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Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 11:17 pm
Sachie Whitby LilChibiusa Sachie Whitby SOPA is essentially Hollywood and the Recording Industry versus the Internet. The only thing about that which is ironic is that there are some music groups [like Franz Ferdinand] that would rather have their fans pirate all of their currently out of print single b-sides than pay ridiculous ebay prices to buy the single. Under SOPA, those fans would still be prosecuted as criminals even though the artist themselves do not care. Oh and while not a fan of Justin Bieber, I have quite a bit of respect for the kid. He's actually spoken out against SOPA and isn't being a hypocrite about it. Abandonware would also be completely eliminated from the Internet. Although technically a form of software piracy, most abandonware sites do will only upload old games that are truly abandoned where there software publisher is either out of business or just does not care. Under SOPA, it doesn't matter that Ultima Worlds of Adventure 2: Martian Dreams is so out of print that Origin doesn't even have copies themselves to put the game back into print. You'd have to go to ebay and pay $91 for a game that is on 5.25 floppy discs. I don't think those kind of drives are even made anymore. SOPA also makes me wonder what would happen to sites like gamefaqs.com or any other gaming site which focuses entirely on walkthoughs and hints for video & computer games. Technically it could be argued that these sites pirate information that would be found in a hintbook, even if a hintbook doesn't actually exist in most cases. The only thing that will keep President Obama from signing SOPA into law is if SOPA becomes so toxic that it becomes political poison. If that happens, SOPA will die in committee and never make it to the House floor for voting nor to Obama's desk. I think his track record has shown that he doesn't listen to the citizens all that much... just does what he wants, declares it a victory for American jobs, then runs off to go on vacation at the first sign of any trouble. I haven't met anyone yet who was in favor of it, so hopefully enough people will contact their representatives about it. I heard that GoDaddy.com used to support the act, and their customers started leaving them by the truckloads, even after they changed their minds and declared themselves neutral on the issue. The internet is still fairly new territory for everyone, and information on it shouldn't be viewed in the same way that physical objects in stores are viewed. I can't imagine an internet without copyright infringement. What would be left? I think that most people who actually use the Internet knows that the bulk of the piracy goes on things like IRC and file sharing programs like bitTorrent. SOPA is pretty much a blanket way to go after everyone and not just the actual pirates. Thank goodness for IRC and bittorrent. I don't know how I would get my j-drama without them. Btw, the funny thing is that my downloading is actually legal since none of those dramas are licensed in the US. rofl I try to buy the domestic stuff, but you can't exactly buy j-drama at Best Buy. But, what you say about the blanket is true. I'm willing to bet that everyone breaks some copyright law or other online on a daily basis, even if they don't realize it. If you quote something online, it's technically copyright infringement because any idea posted online is automatically protected under law, or at least that's what I was told in my computer courses in school. Hey, I'm quoting you without written permission, so I'm technically breaking the breaking the law! Yay! xd rofl
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Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 11:24 pm
LilChibiusa Thank goodness for IRC and bittorrent. I don't know how I would get my j-drama without them. Btw, the funny thing is that my downloading is actually legal since none of those dramas are licensed in the US. rofl I try to buy the domestic stuff, but you can't exactly buy j-drama at Best Buy. But, what you say about the blanket is true. I'm willing to bet that everyone breaks some copyright law or other online on a daily basis, even if they don't realize it. If you quote something online, it's technically copyright infringement because any idea posted online is automatically protected under law, or at least that's what I was told in my computer courses in school. Hey, I'm quoting you without written permission, so I'm technically breaking the breaking the law! Yay! xd rofl Yes, you're right about quoting. If you quote Twilight in a discussion to prove how bad it is, you've committed copyright infringement under SOPA. sweatdrop
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 8:49 pm
Sachie Whitby LilChibiusa Thank goodness for IRC and bittorrent. I don't know how I would get my j-drama without them. Btw, the funny thing is that my downloading is actually legal since none of those dramas are licensed in the US. rofl I try to buy the domestic stuff, but you can't exactly buy j-drama at Best Buy. But, what you say about the blanket is true. I'm willing to bet that everyone breaks some copyright law or other online on a daily basis, even if they don't realize it. If you quote something online, it's technically copyright infringement because any idea posted online is automatically protected under law, or at least that's what I was told in my computer courses in school. Hey, I'm quoting you without written permission, so I'm technically breaking the breaking the law! Yay! xd rofl Yes, you're right about quoting. If you quote Twilight in a discussion to prove how bad it is, you've committed copyright infringement under SOPA. sweatdrop The only good thing that would come of that would be having all of those rabid fan girls locked up. rofl I seriously hope it doesn't come to that though.
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Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:14 am
Sachie Whitby LilChibiusa Thank goodness for IRC and bittorrent. I don't know how I would get my j-drama without them. Btw, the funny thing is that my downloading is actually legal since none of those dramas are licensed in the US. rofl I try to buy the domestic stuff, but you can't exactly buy j-drama at Best Buy. But, what you say about the blanket is true. I'm willing to bet that everyone breaks some copyright law or other online on a daily basis, even if they don't realize it. If you quote something online, it's technically copyright infringement because any idea posted online is automatically protected under law, or at least that's what I was told in my computer courses in school. Hey, I'm quoting you without written permission, so I'm technically breaking the breaking the law! Yay! xd rofl Yes, you're right about quoting. If you quote Twilight in a discussion to prove how bad it is, you've committed copyright infringement under SOPA. sweatdrop
That's horrific!
How would academics write papers any more if they have to get written permission from every single source they quote?
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Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:20 am
GreenInkling Sachie Whitby LilChibiusa Thank goodness for IRC and bittorrent. I don't know how I would get my j-drama without them. Btw, the funny thing is that my downloading is actually legal since none of those dramas are licensed in the US. rofl I try to buy the domestic stuff, but you can't exactly buy j-drama at Best Buy. But, what you say about the blanket is true. I'm willing to bet that everyone breaks some copyright law or other online on a daily basis, even if they don't realize it. If you quote something online, it's technically copyright infringement because any idea posted online is automatically protected under law, or at least that's what I was told in my computer courses in school. Hey, I'm quoting you without written permission, so I'm technically breaking the breaking the law! Yay! xd rofl Yes, you're right about quoting. If you quote Twilight in a discussion to prove how bad it is, you've committed copyright infringement under SOPA. sweatdrop
That's horrific!
How would academics write papers any more if they have to get written permission from every single source they quote?
I'm sure that there would be exceptions to that for things like academic papers. However when you're talking about someone who is overly sensitive about their mediocre work, like the Twilight author and her obsessed fans for example, someone is bought to claim copyright infringement over passages from the books being quoted to cite why it is so terribly written. Need I point out the mess in the forums when fans of Homestuck went up in arms over candy corn horns on Gaia along with a bunch of mood bubbles, most of which were of the zodiac. WHAT? Since when did Homestuck invent the zodiac.
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Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:47 am
Sachie Whitby GreenInkling Sachie Whitby LilChibiusa Thank goodness for IRC and bittorrent. I don't know how I would get my j-drama without them. Btw, the funny thing is that my downloading is actually legal since none of those dramas are licensed in the US. rofl I try to buy the domestic stuff, but you can't exactly buy j-drama at Best Buy. But, what you say about the blanket is true. I'm willing to bet that everyone breaks some copyright law or other online on a daily basis, even if they don't realize it. If you quote something online, it's technically copyright infringement because any idea posted online is automatically protected under law, or at least that's what I was told in my computer courses in school. Hey, I'm quoting you without written permission, so I'm technically breaking the breaking the law! Yay! xd rofl Yes, you're right about quoting. If you quote Twilight in a discussion to prove how bad it is, you've committed copyright infringement under SOPA. sweatdrop
That's horrific!
How would academics write papers any more if they have to get written permission from every single source they quote?
I'm sure that there would be exceptions to that for things like academic papers. However when you're talking about someone who is overly sensitive about their mediocre work, like the Twilight author and her obsessed fans for example, someone is bought to claim copyright infringement over passages from the books being quoted to cite why it is so terribly written. Need I point out the mess in the forums when fans of Homestuck went up in arms over candy corn horns on Gaia along with a bunch of mood bubbles, most of which were of the zodiac. WHAT? Since when did Homestuck invent the zodiac.
Right, it's like if you look closely enough at everything, there is no such thing as an original idea.
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Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 2:23 pm
Sachie Whitby GreenInkling Sachie Whitby LilChibiusa Thank goodness for IRC and bittorrent. I don't know how I would get my j-drama without them. Btw, the funny thing is that my downloading is actually legal since none of those dramas are licensed in the US. rofl I try to buy the domestic stuff, but you can't exactly buy j-drama at Best Buy. But, what you say about the blanket is true. I'm willing to bet that everyone breaks some copyright law or other online on a daily basis, even if they don't realize it. If you quote something online, it's technically copyright infringement because any idea posted online is automatically protected under law, or at least that's what I was told in my computer courses in school. Hey, I'm quoting you without written permission, so I'm technically breaking the breaking the law! Yay! xd rofl Yes, you're right about quoting. If you quote Twilight in a discussion to prove how bad it is, you've committed copyright infringement under SOPA. sweatdrop
That's horrific!
How would academics write papers any more if they have to get written permission from every single source they quote?
I'm sure that there would be exceptions to that for things like academic papers. However when you're talking about someone who is overly sensitive about their mediocre work, like the Twilight author and her obsessed fans for example, someone is bought to claim copyright infringement over passages from the books being quoted to cite why it is so terribly written. Need I point out the mess in the forums when fans of Homestuck went up in arms over candy corn horns on Gaia along with a bunch of mood bubbles, most of which were of the zodiac. WHAT? Since when did Homestuck invent the zodiac. They were UPSET about it? eek If anything, I would have thought that they would be happy to have those items! Gaia has made unofficial items of several of my favorite shows, books, and movies, and I've loved the items! How would anyone be unhappy to get free stuff for things they love? confused
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Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 2:27 pm
LilChibiusa Sachie Whitby GreenInkling Sachie Whitby LilChibiusa Thank goodness for IRC and bittorrent. I don't know how I would get my j-drama without them. Btw, the funny thing is that my downloading is actually legal since none of those dramas are licensed in the US. rofl I try to buy the domestic stuff, but you can't exactly buy j-drama at Best Buy. But, what you say about the blanket is true. I'm willing to bet that everyone breaks some copyright law or other online on a daily basis, even if they don't realize it. If you quote something online, it's technically copyright infringement because any idea posted online is automatically protected under law, or at least that's what I was told in my computer courses in school. Hey, I'm quoting you without written permission, so I'm technically breaking the breaking the law! Yay! xd rofl Yes, you're right about quoting. If you quote Twilight in a discussion to prove how bad it is, you've committed copyright infringement under SOPA. sweatdrop
That's horrific!
How would academics write papers any more if they have to get written permission from every single source they quote?
I'm sure that there would be exceptions to that for things like academic papers. However when you're talking about someone who is overly sensitive about their mediocre work, like the Twilight author and her obsessed fans for example, someone is bought to claim copyright infringement over passages from the books being quoted to cite why it is so terribly written. Need I point out the mess in the forums when fans of Homestuck went up in arms over candy corn horns on Gaia along with a bunch of mood bubbles, most of which were of the zodiac. WHAT? Since when did Homestuck invent the zodiac. They were UPSET about it? eek If anything, I would have thought that they would be happy to have those items! Gaia has made unofficial items of several of my favorite shows, books, and movies, and I've loved the items! How would anyone be unhappy to get free stuff for things they love? confused I cannot find the threads anymore, but they were getting very inflammatory. The general idea was that they saw ALL the items [even the zodiac mood bubbles] as copyright infringement.
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