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Viva La Kat

PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:14 pm


Well, Kim Jong Il died yesterday. I'm not sure how much you all know about the situation in North Korea, but I'm curious about what you think of the way the nation is run, as well as what you think will happen now that their leader has died.
PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 5:31 pm


Unfortunately the only one who seems to have half a clue about it is Comrade Tank, and aside from not posting he's a thorough partisan of the regime and things get distorted by that. :/

Sorry I, or nobody else, has posted yet. Slow guild is slow, plus xmas and family stuffs, so I think that has had an impact XP

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 2:05 pm


Viva La Kat
Well, Kim Jong Il died yesterday. I'm not sure how much you all know about the situation in North Korea, but I'm curious about what you think of the way the nation is run, as well as what you think will happen now that their leader has died.



Sorry I'm a little late on this.


As it stands, I view North Korea to be progressive (not socialist) and one of the best anti-imperialist blocs out there. Further; their healthcare system has been hailed as "The envy of the third world". On the other hand, the Kim Il cult is out of control and it's isolationist policy is absurd. They have recently opened their markets to Chinese trade but for the purpose of establishing "Free Economic zones" which is a step backward from whatever planned aspects of the economy they have.

As for the future. Kim Il Un is highly unpopular among the military. Not to mention he is young and in experienced. I find a military coup, American attempts at subservience, or a civil war as viable outcomes but we'll have to wait and see.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 5:20 pm


Comrade Rob


As it stands, I view North Korea to be progressive


I always thought they were more totalitarian.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 8:01 pm


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As it stands, I view North Korea to be progressive


I always thought they were more totalitarian.


Totalitarianism is just a bourgeois catch-phrase for any state they don't like.
PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:42 am


I'm not the biggest fan of North Korea, but I don't like what could come out of this whole thing. I'd love to give a better answer, but my knowledge on this all is rather limited.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:26 pm


It seems like everyones' knowledge about NK is rather limited being its closed off to everyone except the "Dear Leader".
PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:29 pm


Another interesting side note I managed to get a hold of a streaming North Korean broadcast. However I lost its signal and couldn't understand anything they said...

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:18 am


shinigami ryukie
It seems like everyones' knowledge about NK is rather limited being its closed off to everyone except the "Dear Leader".


Yeah, so it seems. I know that Comrade Tank, like Gracchvs said earilier, does havee "half a clue" about the whole situation there though. In my case, this is due to not really bothering to read about the place and not trusting almost any of the things that are said over here about it. I guess that in a year or so we'll know a bit at least of how things have turned out.

shinigami ryukie
Another interesting side note I managed to get a hold of a streaming North Korean broadcast. However I lost its signal and couldn't understand anything they said...


Wow! That's interesting! What was it about? (or seem to be about, I don't speak Korean either...). How did you manage to find it? =O
PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:58 pm


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Wow! That's interesting! What was it about? (or seem to be about, I don't speak Korean either...). How did you manage to find it? =O


Well as best as I can ascertain, there was a cartoon about a girl bear who didn't do math, failed a test because she slacked off eating candy, and then not sure happy ending?

The other appeared to be about Kim Jong ILL's death.

While the last was just about north korea's climate and mountains with soldiers on them. Snow.

As for how I got it, hackers.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:09 pm


북한 궁극적인 한국이다!

I'm a bit late with answering this question, but I'm going to put something here anyway. I love the DPRK and I love Kim Il Sung and Kim Jong Il. I don't really support Kim Jong Un at this point because I don't believe that he was the correct choice as leader of the DPRK. I personally think that his sister would have been the better pick because of her studies of Marxism and the fact that she has traveled and lived outside of the DPRK.

While I don't see the DPRK as a true socialist society (as they believe they have achieved), I agree with Rob on them being the most anti-imperialist nation in this day.
PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:53 pm


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북한 궁극적인 한국이다!

I'm a bit late with answering this question, but I'm going to put something here anyway. I love the DPRK and I love Kim Il Sung and Kim Jong Il. I don't really support Kim Jong Un at this point because I don't believe that he was the correct choice as leader of the DPRK. I personally think that his sister would have been the better pick because of her studies of Marxism and the fact that she has traveled and lived outside of the DPRK.

While I don't see the DPRK as a true socialist society (as they believe they have achieved), I agree with Rob on them being the most anti-imperialist nation in this day.


The Daughter is a Marxist Economist and yes she would have been the best pick. The problem lies that North Korea is still Traditional Korea whether they want to admit it or not. Confucian practices occur but "in a different light." So there is no chance of a female getting that position.

The Military and the Party are both Anti-Un.

You have to realize that the Communist party is made of of illegitimate heirs from Kim il Sung. It's not really a party but a series of families that all have ties to Kim il Sung really.

The Problem is that unlike other Communist parties, the leader in DPRK IS legally above the Party and the Military in there constitution. So what happened is that the Party became merely symbolic with the Leader constantly trying to constantly appease the Military after the Shogun Policy.

Attempting to nullify the Shogun Policy has been shown by North Korea trying to downsize its military. The whole point of the nuclear armament was for this purpose. The problem now is the military going to downsize with Kim Jong-Un? Most likely not.

This is because Kim Jong-Un is a figure head. most likely of the Military. The Reason why I believe this is because there are several families trying to undermine him so Kim Jong-Un can't really count on the Party ..so he's going to stress military ties as much as possible in order to maintain power.

We could see a resurgence of the Party becoming dominant over the Leader in this triangle but remember this is more like Feudal families battling it out for Dynastic rule. Either way the Military is going to come out on top of this in my opinion and I doubt they will disarm due to Kim Jong-il's death.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:57 pm


Though he has been seen close to his Uncle in photographs especially during the Funeral but I still say he's going to have to be pro military or face a Coup.

The Major problem is that he's into Japanese anime and Manga (and US Basketball) from what the West Is reporting ...and thats going to kill him
PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:58 pm


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 5:05 pm


Viva La Kat
Well, Kim Jong Il died yesterday. I'm not sure how much you all know about the situation in North Korea, but I'm curious about what you think of the way the nation is run, as well as what you think will happen now that their leader has died.


The nation is run horribly, and that's saying something, even by communist standards.

What I personally think we'll see is business as usual. Strategic alternating between thawing and tensing of the NK-Six Party relationship to get the maximum amount of aid possible without ever having to reform the system beyond what the top few classes desire. There is no reason to stop. N.K. is the most successful beggar nation in history.
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