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 Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:54 am
Who really killed JFK? Was the U.S. Government behind 9/11? Are a secret race of reptilian aliens controlling the world from underground bunkers?
These are the kinds of questions you'll find people asking when searching for conspiracies. But mixed in with some of the more extravagant claims are people who bring credible evidence or information to some real issues. I present to you a discussion on conspiracy in both theory and practice. Major events and changes currently going on in our world, our countries and maybe even in your own back yard. eek
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:42 pm
I don't know if there's enough evidence to support it either way. In most cases it just seem like the common rash decision-making of the stereotypical less intelligent American. 
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Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 8:08 am
I had a really well written explanation of the Geo-Engineering conspiracy theory but I took to long to post and got logged out gonk I lost that post and it took forever to write up... I don't have the patience to rewrite it. So instead... Documentary - What in the World Are They Spraying?
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Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 7:51 am
JFK was killed by a sniper. That's all I know, that's all I can assume.
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 7:07 pm
Divine_Malevolence JFK was killed by a sniper. That's all I know, that's all I can assume. George Herbert Walker Bush Sr.
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Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 5:48 pm
Ghouliscious I had a really well written explanation of the Geo-Engineering conspiracy theory but I took to long to post and got logged out gonk I lost that post and it took forever to write up... I don't have the patience to rewrite it. So instead... Documentary - What in the World Are They Spraying?You couldn't just get the text back by clicking "Back" on your browser? Oh god, the chemtrail conspiracy... XD
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:05 am
Foam-Dome Oh god, the chemtrail conspiracy... XD I believe it. The evidence presented with this theory is staggering, out in the open and astonishingly accurate. Cancers and neurological disorders associated with aluminum dioxide and barium have increased significantly in the last 15 years and those are the chemical particles being sprayed. They've shown up with dangerously increased PPM (Parts per million.) counts in soil samples and ground water sources in NATO affiliated nations and now these chemtrails are being seen and chemical traces being found in samples taken WORLDWIDE. But you won't find a lick of information on it in the mainstream news because they're all owned by the same wall street bankers that run many of the world's governments from behind the scenes...
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 6:56 pm
Secks Shae I believe it. The evidence presented with this theory is staggering, out in the open and astonishingly accurate. Cancers and neurological disorders associated with aluminum dioxide and barium have increased significantly in the last 15 years and those are the chemical particles being sprayed. They've shown up with dangerously increased PPM (Parts per million.) counts in soil samples and ground water sources in NATO affiliated nations and now these chemtrails are being seen and chemical traces being found in samples taken WORLDWIDE. But you won't find a lick of information on it in the mainstream news because they're all owned by the same wall street bankers that run many of the world's governments from behind the scenes... Well, how can you prove it's the government doing it, and not just ambient pollution circling the world? Like, what leads anyone to believe it's the government doing it? How can you prove that?
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:35 pm
Secks Shae Foam-Dome Oh god, the chemtrail conspiracy... XD I believe it. The evidence presented with this theory is staggering, out in the open and astonishingly accurate. Cancers and neurological disorders associated with aluminum dioxide and barium have increased significantly in the last 15 years and those are the chemical particles being sprayed. They've shown up with dangerously increased PPM (Parts per million.) counts in soil samples and ground water sources in NATO affiliated nations and now these chemtrails are being seen and chemical traces being found in samples taken WORLDWIDE. But you won't find a lick of information on it in the mainstream news because they're all owned by the same wall street bankers that run many of the world's governments from behind the scenes... *cough* I think you'll find the BBC in the UK is essentially owned by the population of the UK due to TV licensing fees, they are legally obliged to be non-biased on all stories and I haven't heard a single thing about it.
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 5:36 pm
Cannibal Horsey Secks Shae Foam-Dome Oh god, the chemtrail conspiracy... XD I believe it. The evidence presented with this theory is staggering, out in the open and astonishingly accurate. Cancers and neurological disorders associated with aluminum dioxide and barium have increased significantly in the last 15 years and those are the chemical particles being sprayed. They've shown up with dangerously increased PPM (Parts per million.) counts in soil samples and ground water sources in NATO affiliated nations and now these chemtrails are being seen and chemical traces being found in samples taken WORLDWIDE. But you won't find a lick of information on it in the mainstream news because they're all owned by the same wall street bankers that run many of the world's governments from behind the scenes... *cough* I think you'll find the BBC in the UK is essentially owned by the population of the UK due to TV licensing fees, they are legally obliged to be non-biased on all stories and I haven't heard a single thing about it. My guess would be the legal term of owning the mainstream news is rather inaccurate. The conspiracies may rather refer to a small group with a certain amount of control: What stuff which have to go on, and what stuff which cannot. As most people like to think of having the ownership as having full control; this is sadly not the case. Certain things and beings are quite impossible to fully tame, and there's always the relative aspect of manipulation.
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 6:13 am
How can we prove that chemtrails are a government project? Simple, the patents for the aerosol system and the project are in public record and the patent holder is dun-dun-dun The U.S. Government. As to the thought that anyone other than those working for the major banks, the Rothschilds, the Rockefellers or the Bilderberg Group has control of anything - It is an asinine one. George Carlin said it best: www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV1lZMTCqf8In the U.S. today, you have Ron Paul, the ONLY candidate who isn't completely full of s**t or just another carbon copy big bank puppet like Obama, Bush Jr, Clinton, etc.. being demonized because he wants to end war, because he wants to strengthen the economy by removing power from the federal reserve and going back to a dollar based on the Gold Standard like Kennedy did, because he wants to keep America's nose out of places it doesn't belong. He's constantly and purposely limited for time and certain types of questions during the political debates while puppets like Mit Romney and Newt Gingrich get all the time in the world. His results in polls on CNN, NBC, Fox, & CBS are purposely being altered to make him look bad. Second, you now have what is basically martial law declared in America. Your congress, your senate and your president have passed the N.D.A.A. (National Defense Authorization Act) which enables them to place troops on the streets of America's cities to arrest & detain you without charge indefinitely. All you have to do is be against your government, be against corporately owned politicians, be against war, be against big banks, support third party candidates, participate in protests... And now with the S.O.P.A. (Stop Online Piracy Act), which may sound like something positive, is basically controlling the internet. A means for the government and their owners to censor the internet and alternative anti-government media simply by filing false & legitimate infringement claims and removing the sites completely. The financial crisis sweeping the E.U. is another part of the plan of these 1r;s. They are engineering the economic collapses so they can introduce a one world currency, giving these big banks and companies total control over the world's economy. Which is just another step to their one world government. But for that, they need a war... not just any war either, another World War. The N.A.T.O. campaigns in Lybia, ousting Qaddafi & giving Al-Qaeda rebels control of the country. The staged revolution in Egypt that lead to the current attack on Christians there. Many being murdered in cold blood by the military, giving their inspirational kudos to the U.S. and the way their police forces handled protestors of #OWS. Obama deploying troops to Jordan to begin campaigns there. These are horrible in their own right, but they aren't big enough. China & Iran have gotten real friendly and Israel & the U.S. don't like it, all being staged of course, but just you watch - Those 4 nations along with possibly Russia & U.K. will be the combatants for WW3 presented to you by Mansanto, JP Morgan, Chase, Goldman Sachs, The Federal Reserve, The Freemasons, Skull & Bones, The Rothschilds, The Rockefellers, Bilderberg and the many puppets under their control. The only hopes we have are more people waking up to the false reality around them. Unplug from the system, open your eyes for the first time. Everything I've mentioned can easily be found by doing a little research. http://www.infowars.comhttp://www.prisonplanet.comhttp://www.beforeitsnews.comhttp://www.google.com
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:11 pm
Secks Shae How can we prove that chemtrails are a government project? Simple, the patents for the aerosol system and the project are in public record and the patent holder is dun-dun-dun The U.S. Government. Do you have a link to said patents? Why would the government be stupid enough to leave something like that on public record if it really was an elaborate conspiracy to poison the human population...? XD They would cover their tracks and ensure that no bread crumbs were left behind. Besides, I have it on good authority that the contrail project is simply a method of flight testing for government pilots. ...Wow, that was certainly quite a rant. XD Now all it needs is some solid, credible evidence. It would also help if you didn't sound like such a raving conspiracy theorist. "You gotta open your eyes and UNPLUG FROM THE SYSTEM, MAAAAAAAANNNN."
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 5:57 am
Foam-Dome Do you have a link to said patents? Ask an ye shall receive... about two months late lol! - http://www.lightwatcher.com/chemtrails/patents.htmlQuote: Why would the government be stupid enough to leave something like that on public record if it really was an elaborate conspiracy to poison the human population...? The patents aren't labelled "OMFG DEPOPULATION AEROSOLS", but the governments of the world and their controllers ALWAYS tell/show the people what they're going to do to them. They just disguise it as something else and spread propaganda and misinformation. Quote: Besides, I have it on good authority that the contrail project is simply a method of flight testing for government pilots. First of all, a CONTRAIL is a stream of condensation that runs off the aircraft. It is composed of water/ice. Second, I've heard that cover story too and it's a funny one because if it were true why would they be WORLDWIDE? Did you hear the one about how they claim it's for GeoEngineering reflecting sunlight away from the planet by spraying reflective particles (Aluminum-dioxide, barium & strontium) to prevent global warming? Go test your soil for those particles. Look at what their levels should be at under normal conditions, and then look at what your readings actually are. Also the documentary "What In the World Are They Spraying?" gives you more than enough credible information to answer any other questions or concerns. Quote: It would also help if you didn't sound like such a raving conspiracy theorist. "You gotta open your eyes and UNPLUG FROM THE SYSTEM, MAAAAAAAANNNN." I'm sorry, I just vehemently despise the fact that a group of ultra rich self-entitled psychopathic war/fear mongering bankers are ruining our beautiful blue planet and trying to kill us all and are basically getting away with it. Is it really so hard to believe that the government can be bought & sold like a loaf of bread? Look up the biggest campaign contributors to Bush Jr., Obama, Romney & Gingrich. THEY'RE ALL BANKS. Is it so hard to believe that they wouldn't try to depopulate the planet? Look up the Georgia Guidestones and the message there-on. Look up the cryptic murals in Denver International Airport. Is it so unfathomable that a system that is constantly robbing the freedoms of its people would try something like this? Think about it. Since 9/11, (aka the first big false flag inside job "terror" attack of the 21st Century.) in the U.S. how many new national security laws & agencies were created? The P.A.T.R.I.O.T. Act that allows them to track & monitor you without a warrant. The T.S.A. setting up internal Nazi style checkpoints on major U.S. roadways, beginning to install cancer causing body scanners not only in airports, but in bus stations and subways. Countless reports of T.S.A. employees GROPING women and children. The N.D.A.A. ALONE should tell show you that these assholes mean business. Or how about the bill passed not too long ago that makes it illegal for people to exercise their rights of free speech and peaceful assembly/protest on federal or private property? They're taking away all of these freedoms and making these almost tyrannical laws to suppress their citizens in the name of false security from some the latest CIA asset terrorist or puppet dictator boogieman who doesn't want to use U.S. currency to trade oil. At this rate, it's looking like the American Empire will be a dictatorial one. Still don't think there's nothing seedy going on behind the scenes? We've seen some of their propaganda fail and blow up in their faces with the brilliant "Phony Kony" campaign, as I like to call it. Uganda starts major oil explorations, Obama sends U.S. troops to the country, then all of a sudden a charity known for corruption releases a viral video to oust a warlord who did his worst 20+ years ago and hasn't been in Uganda for near a decade. Ugandan people are more concerned about the atrocities being committed against them by their own government. Then, in a hilarious and spectacular crash, the director of the video gets busted for masturbating in public? Come on. People really are beginning to wake up and smell the bullshit beings spread by the government, their corporate owners and their mainstream media mouthpieces. Conspiracy theorists aren't as whacked out as they used to be. The age of the internet has made it easy for anyone to collect any & all information on any given subject and discern for themselves what is true or false.
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:32 pm
Secks Shae Second, I've heard that cover story too and it's a funny one because if it were true why would they be WORLDWIDE? Because there are GOVERNMENTS worldwide. Oh hey, that page doesn't look biased at all! As far as I know, military jet fuel and commercial jet fuel are rather different. And as far as the barium goes, from what I understand, many of the measurements taken are far less than what's even in your local soil, or ground water. So maybe it's present in military jet fuel, but I doubt it's there with the intent of giving us all terminal diseases. And again, the measurements are so low they can't be sure it's doing anything. They test extreme amounts on lab rats and whatnot to make them sick. Also, it's not aluminum dioxide. It's aluminum oxide. And on that note... Either way, people were getting cancer and heart disease before there were planes. Just like these days, most people died of illness, rather than old age. Things haven't changed much. As a matter of fact, we're now living longer than ever. If the government wanted to kill us all, they would be much better off just carpet-bombing us and seizing our electronic assets for themselves. They don't have to sneak our money through prescriptions and insurance. Believe me when I say I don't have anything in me which says, "The government is there for the good of the people." Because it's not. Politicians have forgotten exactly what they're in office for - to represent us. However, I'm also absolutely certain that there would be jack s**t to gain from killing people off... and I still fail to see how chemtrails could possibly be linked to any kind of world government coalescence. That's like being "king of the mountain" with nothing on the mountain. No soil to grow in, no game to hunt. Your claims don't really sound like a good game plan on the governments'/bankers' parts. Couldn't they just as easily start a world war that reaches our own soil, with the power of the banks behind the governments? And the world banks, by the way, are deeply seated in the whole 9/11 attack you claim was staged, and they took the hardest financial losses from it. Not to mention what happened to Wall Street following everything. If they orchestrated that, they shot themselves in the foot. Instead of hitting a building like the World Trade Center, they could have hit, you know, maybe some hospitals. Or schools. Or just old government buildings, and claimed there were tons of people in them. They did not have to slap themselves in the face to do that. I'm just not convinced. As much evidence as I can be presented with, there's always an explanation of some kind, and I see no gain for them killing people off. Oh yeah, I'm familiar with the Denver International Airport. That's an entirely different case.
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 3:50 am
What are the levels of barium they are reading? Cause I'd sure as hell like to know.
I've done experiments for classes using barium and I know the concentrations needed, you need a pretty high dose to do much damage. 2.5mM of barium is required to inhibit 2/3rds of the activity of a small piece of frog skin (that's about 5cm diameter). Scaling up for humans plus the fact you'd need to give overdoses to make sure it binds to all the receptors you're talking high molar concentrations to have a real effect. Plus there is the fact your liver if real good at getting rid of toxic substances, and there's the fact barium is used medicinally as an enema and you kind catch why I don't think any government would bother trying to kill people with barium poisoning.
Like Foamy said there and much faster and cheaper methods for them to use, like mysterious exploding chemical plants that release poisons or neurotoxins "accidentally" if they wanted a cover up for it. Why bother going to extreme lengths? Nobody trusts any government anyway
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