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GS Sailor Sapphire Captain
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 Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:20 am
Alright... so, this one is a little complicated, but nonetheless important. Since there are a ton of gemstones out there, I've been trying to figure out which ones we should use for the senshi/knights and which we should not.
So, basically, what I'm asking is this: How should we organize the gemstones? Under what category should the stones be in? Which ones should we use & why?
I apologize for the horribly worded question. My idea for this is coming up in the next post...
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 2:01 am
As you all know, Sailor Moon has both inner senshi and outer senshi. What I am proposing is that we utilize this format and apply it by using birthstones to represent the senshi.
Here are the birthstones: January - Garnet, Rose Quartz February - Amethyst, Onyx March - Aquamarine, Bloodstone April - Diamond, Quartz May - Emerald, Chrysoprase June - Pearl, Moonstone, Alexandrite July - Ruby, Carnelian August - Peridot, Sardonyx September - Sapphire, Lapis October - Opal, Tourmaline November - Topaz, Citrine December - Tanzanite, Zircon, Turquoise [ source]
Idea: Good vs. Evil
Since every month has at least two stones to represent it, I was thinking we could make one stone good, and the other stone evil (thanks to Cosmic Sailor Rubi for helping with this idea). As you can see, June and December both have three stones, so we could have two of the gemstones be twins and make the other stone either good or evil, depending on which side the twins are on (ex.: Tanzanite and Zircon are dark twin senshi, Turquoise is a good senshi OR Pearl and Moonstone good twin senshi, Alexandrite dark senshi).
The decision for which stones would be twin stones and whether or not they would be good or evil would be left up to the people taking on those roles. The same would apply to the rest of the stones: since I have taken on the role of Sailor Sapphire and my senshi is good, Sailor Lapis would automatically be a dark senshi. HOWEVER, if both roles were hypothetically open and Sailor Lapis was taken first and deemed a good senshi, then Sailor Sapphire would be an evil senshi. Make sense?
If we implement this plan, we could either make the evil senshi be apart of their own group of senshi, or have them become the outer senshi. So, it could pan out like this:
If we do plan B, maybe we could have the outer senshi for each "team" form after we have all available roles filled, that way, IF we end up becoming a huuuuge guild, we could use all other non-birthstone gemstones. Just some ideas, feel free to expand on my proposal or come up with another alternative.
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GS Sailor Sapphire Captain
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 2:54 am
I'm not really seeing a difference between these two plans...
Other thing to establish: How are you gunna handle the Cannon Senshi?
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:16 am
Sailor Charoite I'm not really seeing a difference between these two plans...
I don't know, xd If you want, feel free to bring forth some ideas.Sailor Charoite Other thing to establish: How are you gunna handle the Cannon Senshi?
EDIT: Wait, I think I misinterpreted your last question. Woops. You mean, things like if we have otaku roles intertwine with canon roles or not? I don't really care, honestly. I mean, that's up to you guys. I have no qualms with it at the moment.
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GS Sailor Sapphire Captain
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:17 am
Consider this -
These are the main inners, and outers -
Garnet
Amethyst
Aquamarine
Diamond
Emerald
Pearl
Ruby
Peridot
Sapphire
Opal
Topaz
Turquoise
These would either be minors, or potential villains -
Rose Quartz
Onyx
Bloodstone
Quartz
Chrysoprase
Moonstone
Alexandrite
Carnelian
Sardonyx
Lapis
Tourmaline
Citrine
Tanzanite
Zircon
I'm already listing each mentally, and placing them into teams, challenges, and possible neutrals.
What do you think, Sophie?
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:26 am
There's alot of Gemstones already made that arn't on either of those lists. And I'm sure there are those on the "evil list" who don't want to be evil, or vice versa.
Edit: About the Cannon Senshi:
I mean are we gunna follow cannon.. are we gunna let people whore them out to make mini's....are we gunna do some alternate pairings?
Rubi seems to want a Mamaru+Pluto Pairing..... Which could be interesting , as long as we establish what changes are being made to cannon. (although I"m having fun picking on her for it)
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:36 am
(( The Inners have a greater chance of becoming manipulated, influenced, or swayed because they are younger. Each Inner has the chance of going their own way, or working on their own because of indecision. However, since they're still young, each has a great potential to overcome any oversight by Outers, Villains, Neutrals, Minors, and even the Oracles. Even the most accomplished need young blood to steer them in the right direction. Since the Inners are the amongst the least experienced with Neutrals and Minors in tougher affairs, they have a chance to prove themselves if their potential impresses the other. The Inners are also resilent since they're still younger. Even though the Outers, and Oracles have that, they're at chance or decision with that. Neutrals and Minors are more influenced since they're beginners. There is possibility for Inners to have a little age on the other. )) Inners -
Amethyst
Diamond
Topaz
Ruby
Emerald
Turquoise
((The Outers are a little closer to the Oracles, but still far from them. Outers would be either older than the Inners, or have been in tougher affairs longer than that the Inners. Each Outer would potentially have their own agenda in order to investigate or be Neutral to be on the safe side. The Outers would also look like a Villain at first because of their obscure or possibly enigmatic nature. It's possible for the Outers to become Villains if they're caught off guard. Their possibility of a Villain can occur if an alliance is broken, misunderstanding, or forceful influence. They may break away for a time, but will come back on either their own accord or after an issue is resolved. )) Outers -
Sapphire
Peridot
Aquamarine
Opal
Garnet
Pearl
(( A Villain has their own agenda, and were once a Neutral, or Minor. They seek out revenge, vengance, or have an ulterior motive to accomplish their own plans. Villains would work with Good just to ensure their own survival through a truce. Swaying, Manipulating, or Influencing Villains would take some effort to get them to see a situation before taking rash action. Villains could have been on the side of good, once, but went their own direction because of a terrible lie or inaction. Villains are at chance with resilence. )) Villains -
Bloodstone
Citrine
(( These Minors are all ready good, but can still be manipulated, or influenced to take sides, or go their own way because of an event or situation. Swaying these Minors would take a little more to become a Villain, or become a Villain to accomplish their own means for a time because of a broken alliance, or to investigate. ))Minors-
Rose Quartz
Quartz
Moonstone
Alexandrite
(( Each Neutral has the potential to take a side. Good, Bad, or going their own way. These Neutrals also have the potential to become villain. ))Neutrals-
Onyx
Lapis
Tanzanite
Zircon
((I'll explain more about the Oracles)) Oracles-
Carnelian
Chrysoprase
Tourmaline
Sardonyx
(( The Oracles would be those who are older than the listed above: Neutrals, Minors, Villains, Outers, and Inners. At first they may look like the Villain, but will either watch over or directly intervene. The Oracles may act like a Villain for a time, become Neutral or downgrade to a Minor position to stay on the safe side. The Oracles being the oldest will be a source of advice or wisdom as the definition of an Oracle would be defined as. An Oracle does have the potential of becoming a Villain, but would be way too hard to sway, manipulate, or influence. Their status as Oracle is that of being whom watched over and stopped evil in its tracks before it rose. With every group, there's infighting, disagreements, and agreements. ))
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:18 am
I really think your way of organizing is really creative Terra, but the categories might be a little too specific for new members to want to follow. The key is making sure that the format has enough room for people to be able to have the freedom to express their characters in it. For instance, with this format, some characters that are inner senshi may want to yield the characteristics of an outer senshi later on in the roleplay(s), but won't be able to due to the specific descriptions. This could become really confusing, especially for those who are younger (12-13 year olds). Story wise, your detail is fantastic and very interesting, but for a group roleplay, I don't know if everyone would be able to willing to follow it. :
So... another idea that's come up is having 13 "core" senshi, and then the rest of the senshi could be self-determined in regards to their status as good/villian/outer/whatever by the members who play them. What do you guys think of that format?
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GS Sailor Sapphire Captain
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:44 am
GS Sailor Sapphire I really think your way of organizing is really creative Terra, but the categories might be a little too specific for new members to want to follow. The key is making sure that the format has enough room for people to be able to have the freedom to express their characters in it. For instance, with this format, some characters that are inner senshi may want to yield the characteristics of an outer senshi later on in the roleplay(s), but won't be able to due to the specific descriptions. This could become really confusing, especially for those who are younger (12-13 year olds). Story wise, your detail is fantastic and very interesting, but for a group roleplay, I don't know if everyone would be able to willing to follow it. : So... another idea that's come up is having 13 "core" senshi, and then the rest of the senshi could be self-determined in regards to their status as good/villian/outer/whatever by the members who play them. What do you guys think of that format? Perhaps keep the good/villian/outer/whatever descriptions, but apply them where needed? Maybe a diagram of the 13 core senshi made in a Zodiac style? Such as where the 13 core senshi in the center, but placed in a circle, and any extras will be placed in branching style. Like the aforementioned team of Gemstones, but like in a domain, or being commanded under a specific Gemstone? Would that work?
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 7:25 am
Edit:
This website might help divide gemstones into groups lol .. I found a lot and you would be surprised what I found.
http://www.bernardine.com/birthstone/month.htm
and here is one for Zodiac
http://www.bernardine.com/birthstone/zodiac-birthstones.htm
or just go to this for the main list of stuff lol
http://www.bernardine.com/gemstones/
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:06 pm
Terra's idea sounds very interesting. I think if we keep the drscriptions and place the gemstones in each category as they see fit, that may be a good way to organise. I know that Sapphire deffinaantly has the potential to turn evil..she's already rogue
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:33 pm
Good work, Onyx. Very good.
With Sophie's current influence, she still has good in her, but the wrong events are causing her side change to sway toward bad. However, that's an enigma for now. We'll see where she ends up. Oh the excitement of story development.
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GS Sailor Sapphire Captain
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 4:58 pm
l Saint Terra l With Sophie's current influence, she still has good in her, but the wrong events are causing her side change to sway toward bad. However, that's an enigma for now. We'll see where she ends up. Oh the excitement of story development. ... what current influence? I'll decide that, thanks. lol
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 5:01 pm
GS Sailor Sapphire l Saint Terra l With Sophie's current influence, she still has good in her, but the wrong events are causing her side change to sway toward bad. However, that's an enigma for now. We'll see where she ends up. Oh the excitement of story development. ... what current influence? I'll decide that, thanks. lol I don't know what influence Sophie is currently under, so it's hard to tell. We'll find out later. Sound good?
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GS Sailor Sapphire Captain
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 5:02 pm
Cosmic Sailor Rubi Terra's idea sounds very interesting. I think if we keep the drscriptions and place the gemstones in each category as they see fit, that may be a good way to organise. I know that Sapphire deffinaantly has the potential to turn evil..she's already rogue I agree, the idea is interesting, but my thing about it is that the descriptions may get a little too confining to the people who join. Plus, we do have some gemstone characters who are already established and these positions may conflict with their characters. Is there any way we could make the definitions a little more flexible?
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