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 Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:22 am
So, Steelswarm Roach is Indeed a secret rare. What are your thoughts on this card? it's difficulty to obtain, etc. Is it Overhyped? will it go down in price? Or is it the next Pot of Duality in terms of being wanted and Price?
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:46 am
While it is a good card for stopping a lot of powerful monsters (dark armed, judgement dragon, stardust (not to mention almost every OTHER synchro and fusion), I think timing is the most important factor to this card.
It's a rank 4, but there are others in the same rank that can beat out that attack, and with no defense, it makes itself an easy target for cards like book of moon, not to mention destructive card efffects.
I personally would prefer Vairon Disigma over it, but there's no questioning that if played at a good point, where you can be certain the opponent won't counter it, it'll stop a lot of heavier summons (with exception of other exceed monsters) in their tracks.
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:35 pm
Roach looks like a good card to have in your extra deck but i dont think its pot of duality quality
hell i dont think pot of duality is pot of duality quality but that's just me...
it might make your opponent rethink one move, but its easy enough to get over.
my money is on Hope getting some more powerful advanced forms.
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:39 pm
Xyz's in my opinion are overhyped and horrible. Its more a waster than anything, 2 or more cards to get 1 that has a very limited useage effect? Terrible. At best it would bring a couple of low tier ranks up to tier 2. Gadget maybe tier 1.5 and thats a big maybe.
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:45 pm
Fresh Porn Xyz's in my opinion are overhyped and horrible. Its more a waster than anything, 2 or more cards to get 1 that has a very limited useage effect? Terrible. At best it would bring a couple of low tier ranks up to tier 2. Gadget maybe tier 1.5 and thats a big maybe. The thing with exceeds is that they're supposed to be more consistant than synchro. They don't need a special card like a tuner, just multiple of monsters at the smae level, and that can be worth it. The limited use of effects is where it gets tricky, but really plenty of cards make it into decks with limited use of effect (glow up bulb?). These cards I believe are meant to be consistant and useful for certain situations (they can also get past level specific cards such as gravity bind and burden of the mighty). If you don't think exceeds are worth it, then that's your deal. honestly, the cards are recent, and there will be a lot of support for them within the next few years, so don't count them out as something useful just because there are so few members right now.
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 6:50 pm
Roach is amazing. You may as well say Oppression is bad if you think Roach is bad.
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:05 pm
I like it, but I like Number 16: Ruler of Color - Shock Ruler more.
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:47 pm
Labyrinthknight63 Fresh Porn Xyz's in my opinion are overhyped and horrible. Its more a waster than anything, 2 or more cards to get 1 that has a very limited useage effect? Terrible. At best it would bring a couple of low tier ranks up to tier 2. Gadget maybe tier 1.5 and thats a big maybe. The thing with exceeds is that they're supposed to be more consistant than synchro. They don't need a special card like a tuner, just multiple of monsters at the smae level, and that can be worth it. The limited use of effects is where it gets tricky, but really plenty of cards make it into decks with limited use of effect (glow up bulb?). These cards I believe are meant to be consistant and useful for certain situations (they can also get past level specific cards such as gravity bind and burden of the mighty). If you don't think exceeds are worth it, then that's your deal. honestly, the cards are recent, and there will be a lot of support for them within the next few years, so don't count them out as something useful just because there are so few members right now. I agree, We have only seen the first few waves of Exceeds, they will likely start getting more and more powerful as time passes. as for the limited use of effect thing, well my philosophy has always been that the average life span of a monster on the field is about 1 turn, so most monsters only get to use their effects one time anyway. I'm sure some people had the same reaction to Synchros when they first came out, its normal to fear change, but change is a good thing!
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Gravitational Molestation
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:23 pm
PrismCity Labyrinthknight63 Fresh Porn Xyz's in my opinion are overhyped and horrible. Its more a waster than anything, 2 or more cards to get 1 that has a very limited useage effect? Terrible. At best it would bring a couple of low tier ranks up to tier 2. Gadget maybe tier 1.5 and thats a big maybe. The thing with exceeds is that they're supposed to be more consistant than synchro. They don't need a special card like a tuner, just multiple of monsters at the smae level, and that can be worth it. The limited use of effects is where it gets tricky, but really plenty of cards make it into decks with limited use of effect (glow up bulb?). These cards I believe are meant to be consistant and useful for certain situations (they can also get past level specific cards such as gravity bind and burden of the mighty). If you don't think exceeds are worth it, then that's your deal. honestly, the cards are recent, and there will be a lot of support for them within the next few years, so don't count them out as something useful just because there are so few members right now. I agree, We have only seen the first few waves of Exceeds, they will likely start getting more and more powerful as time passes. as for the limited use of effect thing, well my philosophy has always been that the average life span of a monster on the field is about 1 turn, so most monsters only get to use their effects one time anyway. I'm sure people had the same reaction to Synchros when they first came out, its normal to fear change, but change is a good thing! No they didn't.
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 12:23 am
Gravitational Molestation quite bold for you to speak for every yugioh player... and also incorrect. Alot of my friends stopped playing yugioh when Synchos first came out, but eventually picked the game back up. some people dont like when things change, but you either get on board or jump ship, thats just life. Personally I'm like Exceeds, I dont see many of the current generation of Exceeds over shadowing synchros just yet, but I look forward to seeing how the game will evolve as more Exceed monsters get released.
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 12:50 am
EHHHH im kinda reversed on the situation (KINDA)
when synchros came out, i was AMAZED and couldnt wait for more, now im still happy but i feel they in a way ruined the game . with exceed i like them, and i do agree they will get better but i dont see ANYTHING knocking synchros off there high horse lol.
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 1:36 am
They have also hinted in the anime about effects that can "Reattach" materials to an Exceed monster. We will probably see those type of effects added to the game at some point.
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 1:43 am
PrismCity Gravitational Molestation quite bold for you to speak for every yugioh player... and also incorrect. Alot of my friends stopped playing yugioh when Synchos first came out, but eventually picked the game back up. some people dont like when things change, but you either get on board or jump ship, thats just life. Personally I'm like Exceeds, I dont see many of the current generation of Exceeds over shadowing synchros just yet, but I look forward to seeing how the game will evolve as more Exceed monsters get released. let me just say....can we not argue about synchro's popularity when they first started in a post about Steelswarm Roach? As for my opinions on roach, its good. No librarian, no SQD, no Scrap Dragon, No stardust, i can go on but i wont.
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 9:01 am
PrismCity quite bold for you to speak for every yugioh player... and also incorrect. Alot of my friends stopped playing yugioh when Synchos first came out, but eventually picked the game back up. Prismcity I'm sure people had the same reaction to Synchros when they first came out, its normal to fear change, but change is a good thing! Quite bold of you to speak for every yugioh player based on the sample size of ten? If you make a generalized statement about the player base, I will reply to that generalized statement in regards to the majority. Your minority of whiners who couldn't get over the fact that the game had evolved past the slow formats is not who I was discussing. I thought you had ignored me Prism. I guess not. I guess this Chorus Girl has to smack you around a bit more before you finally dump her 'eh? Tsukinoki let me just say....can we not argue about synchro's popularity when they first started in a post about Steelswarm Roach? No. The medium is circumstantial but the idiocy will be crushed.
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Gravitational Molestation
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 9:45 am
I'd have to argue against Prism as well. My friends all embraced synchros, and debated usefulness of them individually. I saw my friends using almost all of them from the third booster after they came out, and adjusted their decks to fit them.
Just because your group of a few friends didn't care for synchros when they first came out doesn't mean that they weren't popular right away. Generally speaking, a lot of competative players probably found good combos and uses from the very first group (which, may I add, included stardust and goyo), allowing people who didn't fuse to still have access to the extra deck.
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