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 Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 7:23 am
i need a new deck, perferably reachable cost and any color as long as it can stand agianist mono black and tooth and nail. Cuz i usually get whipped with those.....i will also need yo know about any combos that are in the deck as well. Plz and thanks guys.
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Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 9:39 am
Try going with White protection. Circle of Protections do wonders, and there is plenty of black protection creatures/enchanments.
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Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 6:56 pm
color preference? i know you said any color. but i can make it on a bidget, but they would run different styles, and sometimes a player needs a certain style to fit their personality for optimum efficiency.
i can do Green, White, Red, or Blue easily, and Black if you want it.
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Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 7:45 pm
4 Battle of Witts
246 Island
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 6:33 pm
well you wanna build on a budjet ea.. well with guildpact out you can make some ausome black/white decks... i actually just made a protection deck that revolved around the pestalance. that cang et around most obsticles. just make shure you throw out a PRO black critter and a urza's armor and you will be just fine. or you can go with the megrim style deck.. becuse if your poopnit doesnt have cards in his hand...t hen he cant touch you now can he? or just build really fast deck.
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 9:28 pm
Wall of Blood deck!!!! Its a black/red life siphon deck that after draining 6-10 life Flings WoB to finish the opponent off.More importantly it contains no rares.This is not the original idea it contains my own revisions so here's the original http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=magic/magiconline/articlenh12010320 land 6 Mountain 6 Swamp 4 Great Furnace 4 Vault of Whispers 12 creatures 4 Bottle Gnomes 4 Wall of Blood 4 Golden Myr 28 other spells 4 Pyrite Spellbomb 4 Chromatic Sphere 4 Fling 4 Shrapnel Blast 4 Sunbeam Spellbomb 4 Soul Feast 4 Vicious Hunger You could also look into a "Prosperous Bloom"Deck to find a list for this do a article search at wizards.com under that name though it will be more expensive around $40.
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 9:30 pm
Wall of Blood deck!!!! Its a black/red life siphon deck that after draining 6-10 life Flings WoB to finish the opponent off.More importantly it contains no rares.This is not the original idea it contains my own revisions so here's the original http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=magic/magiconline/articlenh12010320 land 6 Mountain 6 Swamp 4 Great Furnace 4 Vault of Whispers 12 creatures 4 Bottle Gnomes 4 Wall of Blood 4 Golden Myr 28 other spells 4 Pyrite Spellbomb 4 Chromatic Sphere 4 Fling 4 Shrapnel Blast 4 Sunbeam Spellbomb 4 Soul Feast 4 Vicious Hunger You could also look into a "Prosperous Bloom"Deck to find a list for this do a article search at wizards.com under that name though it will be more expensive around $40.
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 9:31 pm
sorry Gaia error. Didnt mean to do that.
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 9:29 am
That deck needs Grab the Reins, because I don't think 4 Flings are enough for the combo.
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 12:31 pm
What kind of black deck, one with creature destruction/fear or just a simple mono-black deck?
As long as it's not fear a simple mono-white soldier deck would work well, shear numbers with pumping creatures is enough to take on just about anything but with soldiers there is no single key target they can kill to weaken your army and with life gain you don't need to worry about anything else black could throw at you. But I also know there are alot of old anti-black cards that would help as well even if fear were a problem.
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 6:11 pm
yah...i'm still kinda new at Magic so i don't know most of the combos but yah the Walll of blood deck sounds really efficient but i'm loking for more white/black. Forgot to put that. those are the colors i wanna run so if anyone knows of any killer white/black desk that would be great. thanks again.
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 10:04 pm
dark-is-hot-hot-hot yah...i'm still kinda new at Magic so i don't know most of the combos but yah the Walll of blood deck sounds really efficient but i'm loking for more white/black. Forgot to put that. those are the colors i wanna run so if anyone knows of any killer white/black desk that would be great. thanks again. there are lots of things to make a white/black deck from, but not much are budget....if you wanna beat tooth and nail, you could use counterspells, cranial extractions ($$$$$$), or this really weird combo... they play tooth and nail, you play twincast on it, searching for uyo, silent prophet and triskelion from your library, then use uyo's ability to copy the original tooth and nail to search for mephidross vampire and sakashima the imposter. then you can kill pretty much anything they get with tooth with the vamp/trike combo, and then you can use sakashima to copy the vamp so your triskelion will get two counters each time, so that's infinite damage to end the game. the problem is...twincasts are expensive. and blue. so anyways, black decks that beat tooth and nail? discard is great. persecute is very effective. then if you hit a tooth and nail, haunting echoes will pretty much screw your opponent over. you can also use duress, distress, castigate, ravenous rats, okiba-gang shinobi, and yeah... tooth and nail however is really really persistant...it'll pull through in a lot of games....it's a great deck.
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 9:52 am
Tricastelin dark-is-hot-hot-hot yah...i'm still kinda new at Magic so i don't know most of the combos but yah the Walll of blood deck sounds really efficient but i'm loking for more white/black. Forgot to put that. those are the colors i wanna run so if anyone knows of any killer white/black desk that would be great. thanks again. there are lots of things to make a white/black deck from, but not much are budget....if you wanna beat tooth and nail, you could use counterspells, cranial extractions ($$$$$$), or this really weird combo... they play tooth and nail, you play twincast on it, searching for uyo, silent prophet and triskelion from your library, then use uyo's ability to copy the original tooth and nail to search for mephidross vampire and sakashima the imposter. then you can kill pretty much anything they get with tooth with the vamp/trike combo, and then you can use sakashima to copy the vamp so your triskelion will get two counters each time, so that's infinite damage to end the game. the problem is...twincasts are expensive. and blue. so anyways, black decks that beat tooth and nail? discard is great. persecute is very effective. then if you hit a tooth and nail, haunting echoes will pretty much screw your opponent over. you can also use duress, distress, castigate, ravenous rats, okiba-gang shinobi, and yeah... tooth and nail however is really really persistant...it'll pull through in a lot of games....it's a great deck. could you possibly write out a deck list for me?
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 1:28 pm
umm...i don't know how many cards you have, or how much money you're willing to spend, or what format you want the deck to be in...so i'll just guess extended, with no price limit.
(btw, i'm not that great at just thinking up decklists, so this deck WILL suck, you're gonna have to tweak it to see what works. this is just for ideas)
4 Duress
4 Chainer's Edict
3 Persecute
4 Night's Whisper
3 Mutilate (no more creatures...)
3 Mind Sludge (no more hand)
4 Corrupt/Consume Spirit/Maga, Traitor to Mortals
4 Nantuko Shade
3 Haunting Echoes
3 Sensei's Divining Top
3 Cabal Coffers
22 Swamp
you might wanna experiment with adding carddraw or more win conditions. i just packed this deck full of answers for slow decks. creature decks will beat you unless you play mutilate. you could add in Infests as more creature control. against tooth and nail, you can play mutilate to kill most tooth and nail targets, then play chainer's edict to get the last creature (surely they only have one creature left). if you're lucky, you'll nab a tooth and nail early then haunting echoes it away. keep your shades in your hand until you have the game under control. never drop it second turn. wait until you can swing for 10 or 20 the next turn (thanks to all the mana from cabal coffers.
i assure you that this deck is not good. just experiment...playtesting is the key to success
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 11:54 am
white/black pestilence deck should do fine. the most expensive card in the deck is probably Palidin-en-Vec, but you can do w/o it. the basic principle of the deck is to use pestilence to deal damage to all creatures and all players but the trick is to use creatures with protection from black and "circle of protection: black". In effect you basicly chip at all of your opponents life and kill their creatures leaving yours open to attack. other fun cards can be added to fill in the rest of the 60 cards, such as "terror", "dark ritual",
"holy day" and anything that might "tickle your fancy" or "float your boat" for more detailed options you can pm me and i'll send you a deck list, though it will be my own deck build not an official one.
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