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 Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:48 pm
[Click] for an article by the Washington Post.
This is great~ That's all I have to say.[Click Now!] - New article regarding the DADT policy. The DADT policy is finally repealed! Although the law has been repealed, the effects won't be completely removed until September 20th, 2011. This 60-day period from now until then gives the military ample time to discuss and decide on "gray areas" regarding same-sex couples (such as base housing, military benefits, legal counseling, etc). This is a great accomplishment indeed, especially for our community. NOTE: If your boyfriend/girlfriend/husband/wife/spouse/significant other is in the military, I strongly suggest that you still lay low until 9/20/11. You can never be too sure. Hell, I won't even kiss my boyfriend in public for fear that his staff sergeants might be around. Good job Obama Administration, good job~
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:44 pm
I agree, and of course the pentagon would comply... if they appeal it it won't make them look too good... now would it? xd
I think it is great that the judge ordered it to end immediately, this is one time the US government cant drag their heels, and the great part is that it is the US government telling them not to.
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:04 pm
Its fantastic that they can no longer be discharged for being openly gay >,< although it worries me slightly that if people enter while being openly gay they may experience a lot of violence from homophobes who are also in service. The Government has a bad habit of ignoring such things T___T
I actually talked to a recruiter at my High School about the don't ask don't tell policy, and he was the one who made me realize that sometimes its also used to protect gay officers. But he also agreed that discharging officers for there orientation was ridiculous.
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 10:24 pm
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 7:46 am
shares_stomach_acid Its fantastic that they can no longer be discharged for being openly gay >,< although it worries me slightly that if people enter while being openly gay they may experience a lot of violence from homophobes who are also in service. The Government has a bad habit of ignoring such things T___T I actually talked to a recruiter at my High School about the don't ask don't tell policy, and he was the one who made me realize that sometimes its also used to protect gay officers. But he also agreed that discharging officers for there orientation was ridiculous. The service is littered with homophobes; I would know, I've been there. During my boot camp in Kentucky, not an hour passed by where the word "f*****t" was used negatively. I never heard the phrase "That's so stupid/dumb." It was always "That's so gay." I simply learned to ignore everything and concentrate on my duties rather than my feelings.
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 7:33 pm
See thats what im worried about, and possible violence. I mean, if the Government actually puts there foot down and protects people from possible violence then great. But often times they don't bother T___T
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 8:29 pm
It's still going to be difficult for non-straights in the military and there is still along way to go, but this is great and its way overdue.
It feels like maybe were finally getting somewhere xd
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:20 am
Keep in mind that most service personnel actually don't give a s**t about sexual orientation, at least not in our current time. Yes, back then (and by "back then" I mean within the past few decades), even the thought of non-heterosexuals serving was farfetched. But nowadays, personnel are more receptive of LGBT personnel, since most are convinced that combat readiness is no where near influenced by sexual orientation of a fellow serviceman/woman.
Also note that when DADT is officially removed, discrimination, hate crimes, and any other derogatory actions against LGBT personnel by other personnel will yield FAR graver consequences than before. Therefore, one could assume that the risks of pestering LGBT personnel will greatly outweigh even a reason to do so.
Violence is inevitable in the military, regardless of any law that is passed.
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:08 am
lgtenos shares_stomach_acid Its fantastic that they can no longer be discharged for being openly gay >,< although it worries me slightly that if people enter while being openly gay they may experience a lot of violence from homophobes who are also in service. The Government has a bad habit of ignoring such things T___T I actually talked to a recruiter at my High School about the don't ask don't tell policy, and he was the one who made me realize that sometimes its also used to protect gay officers. But he also agreed that discharging officers for there orientation was ridiculous. The service is littered with homophobes; I would know, I've been there. During my boot camp in Kentucky, not an hour passed by where the word "f*****t" was used negatively. I never heard the phrase "That's so stupid/dumb." It was always "That's so gay." I simply learned to ignore everything and concentrate on my duties rather than my feelings. It may have just been because it was Kentucky. I live in Kentucky, and everyone's like that here. >.<
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:10 pm
Atrum_Anima lgtenos shares_stomach_acid Its fantastic that they can no longer be discharged for being openly gay >,< although it worries me slightly that if people enter while being openly gay they may experience a lot of violence from homophobes who are also in service. The Government has a bad habit of ignoring such things T___T I actually talked to a recruiter at my High School about the don't ask don't tell policy, and he was the one who made me realize that sometimes its also used to protect gay officers. But he also agreed that discharging officers for there orientation was ridiculous. The service is littered with homophobes; I would know, I've been there. During my boot camp in Kentucky, not an hour passed by where the word "f*****t" was used negatively. I never heard the phrase "That's so stupid/dumb." It was always "That's so gay." I simply learned to ignore everything and concentrate on my duties rather than my feelings. It may have just been because it was Kentucky. I live in Kentucky, and everyone's like that here. >.< I wish. I'm still in contact with the majority of my Army friends. They've been to bases and forts in Washington, Texas, the Carolinas, New York, etc., and it's all the same. There's just a predisposition that the military is supposedly heterosexual. At any case, a ban on openly-serving LGBT personnel should not have been instated to begin with as it conflicts with American ideals [although I still understand why it was in the first place].
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 9:45 am
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 11:07 am
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 11:39 am
Hmm my friend Joey's bicurious but I don't think he's ever actually tried anything with a guy in his platoon lol.
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 4:51 pm
This makes me so incredibly happy.
I'm sure after it's been implemented for a while, a lot of the naysayers will realize that they're not being harmed by it and move on with their damned lives.
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 6:24 pm
When I was younger I didn't understand why DADT was a bad thing. Course then I realized what it really meant. So happy its gone! biggrin
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