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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 12:06 am
I just flipped into ED, a place I tend to avoid for various reasons, and read a person's post on sexual morals. While I have nothing wrong with her sexuality and some of her arguments, something did strike me as curious: she argued that virgins are held as a certain moral highground in society.
Frankly, from my experience, I don't tihnk most people feel that way any more. In fact, my sexless-ness has been a cause for embarassment among my friends and has made me feel ashamed and infantile at times. *Only at times. I may have low-self-esteem, but I'm not going to let it get me down.*
I just wanted to know, and this probably would apply to any older users here seeing as I'm 22 and older, but what has your experience been?
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 9:49 am
Well, some of my former freinds used to talk about certain subjects such as that. They tried to include me in their conversations a few times by asking about my views on this or that. When they heard what I had said, they were so "mortified" that I could hold such high standards. I told them that it wasn't a problem for me. They just laughed me off, saying that I couldn't get laid (and this was at a PRIVATE CHRISTIAN SCHOOL). My personal views, although slightly biased by the fact that I'm a Christian, are that virginity should be kept until a marraige is commiserated. besides that, though, it's really nt all that logical to have sex before marraige, because there are the possibilities of STDs and pregnancy, which most teens can't handle, even though they think they can.
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 1:12 pm
I think those are perfectly reasonable views, and I'm not Christian. I don't mind my friends that are "active" but I do think they don't realize the hypocrisy they create when they berrate people for their life choices.
That, and I could get laid if I wanted to, I just don't want to. domokun
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 4:04 pm
Finally, someone to actually say that! I don't think I've ever heard anyone say that before about my views. Yeah, I know. It baffles me how they are even able to sleep at night. I wouldn't be able to if I was like that, but it isn't like they're going to change at the tip of a hat.
*raises hand* Official ugly person, right here. I couldn't get laid even if I wanted to, which, of course, doesn't bother me one teen tiny little miniscule bit. mrgreen
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 4:43 pm
Heh, I think it used to bother me only because I got tired of people giving me these baffled looks when I told them I hadn't had sex. I'm starting to get more comfortable being open about how I feel, and let them think I'm stuck up, I don't care.
People aren't aware of what they do or say a lot of times, especially in a society when these thoughts are being pressed into us through every media. I don't think society realizes that some people just aren't happy with that, or if it does, it doesn't care.
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 9:21 pm
Well, I'm only sixteen. To everyone else, my opinions probably aren't that credible; I'm only waiting 'til I grow older so more people will listen to me.
I think that virginity is highly desirable--at least to asexuals. Maybe not to others. Sex is appealing, yes, but it appeals more to some than others. I guess that sex completely rules some peoples' lives; to them, the price of virginity is a bargain.
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 7:23 am
Yeah, same here Illuminescence. I'm only 15 myself. The thing about virginity that is so special is that, unlike sex, once you have lost it, you'll never get it back. It's something that humans are born with, so why shun it and get rid of it as quickly as possible? Coal Bat Heh, I think it used to bother me only because I got tired of people giving me these baffled looks when I told them I hadn't had sex. I'm starting to get more comfortable being open about how I feel, and let them think I'm stuck up, I don't care.
People aren't aware of what they do or say a lot of times, especially in a society when these thoughts are being pressed into us through every media. I don't think society realizes that some people just aren't happy with that, or if it does, it doesn't care. That si specifically why I don't ever read newspapers, watch new channels, or anything of the sort. I mean, if something MAJOR really does happen, then people will be talking about it, so, in reality, that's all the news I need.
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 2:01 am
I really think it depends on a lot of factors of culture. Location, Religion, Class, Upbringing, School Type, Career... a lot of these factor into who we are and who our neighbors are and such. There ARE still groups out there where virginity is held up on a pedestal of sorts. Just like there are groups out there where it's incredibly uncool to be a virgin. And there are groups that don't care.
In my experience (I'm 22... in college... in Nebraska) it seems those of my parents' age still hold virginity up to be a higher value, and my grandparents even more so. Though it seems a lot of the parents nowadays are at least accepting that their child may have lost his/her virginity (on the flipside, my grandma was incredibly upset and almost angry when my cousin had a son without being married).
It seems that sex gets the most attention in the highschools, and (somewhat sadly) even the middle schools. Granted, that's a natural time of exploring and discovery and hormones and everything, but it's like, high schoolers are so wrapped up in sex this and sex that and what's sexy. Regardless of whether a person is actually HAVING sex, sex is a big deal. It's major gossip of who's with who and who's done what and did you hear?
Wereas, in my college experience, people generally don't care as much. It's like, Okay, you've had sex, big deal. Okay, you haven't had sex... big deal. Let's talk about more important things now.
Though I guess maybe I've been fortunate that most of my friends don't care about sex that much... or at least don't gossip about it. We know it happens, we know some of us do it regularly, and some do it rarely or never. But our world doesn't revolve around it.
We'd rather play video games when we're together than focus on sex.
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 12:52 pm
Yeah! Video games all the way!
I think most of what you were saying about your college classmates has to do with them being more mature, comfortable with the idea, and not so darn curious.
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 1:15 am
That's probably true.
You get past the "OMG SEX!" stage. Though I'm not sure if "curious" is the right word to describe some of today's high schoolers... in some ways, it seems too tame. But maybe I'm just pessimistic.
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 1:35 pm
True, people do get over that stage (thanks goodness).
I think what you might be looking for is:
Wh*r*y B*tches? (excuse the language, but, yeah, I'm pessimistic as well about the whole matter with highschoolers these days.)
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:01 pm
I think you're lucky. I'm the same age as you, twenty two, and while most of the people I hang out with don't treat it as a big deal I do get a lot of unfortunate reactions as well, everything from stares to quiet hushes to friends talking behind backs about things like "they've been going together for "insert amount of time" and she's still holding out?!"
But actually, I was really glad you replied with that because I was worried that the world really had gone mad. I don't really care too much, the people I hang out with, for the most part, are really cool and considerate, but yeah... I think because in highschool it wasn't a big deal, I was surprised it became one in college.
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 11:48 pm
I get kind of the same reaction, except with relationships in general; some of my friends(and a lot of busybody strangers) think that I'm a total freak on a stick for being 16 and never being attracted to anyone, and(God forbid!) when I say that the idea of having a spouse seems flat-out filthy to me, they look like they're going to call the cops. blaugh
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 6:36 pm
Virgins are made fun of as nerds and prudes as far as I can see. neutral People are forced to say "I'm waiting until marriage because of my religion/beliefs" to get any respect for it at all, and even then they're sometimes laughed at.
Twenty or thirty years ago it was quite a lot different though, and a lot of societies value virginity in women (it's pretty ignored in men).
I don't see what having sex has to do with being "pure" or not personally. rolleyes
Video games definitely > sex for a good time. mrgreen
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:23 pm
Sex is a big thing in high school, so I've heard. I never really pay attention though.
Video games definitely beat sex, anyday.
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