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 Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:47 pm
Not entirely sure where to put this, so general discussion sounded good to me.
I picked up witchcraft on a shoestring, and found the book rather interesting. (I think it gives good ideas!) I've been looking at rune sets, and like the idea of making my own so that they are mine. What are your thoughts on making a rune set?? What materials, colors? What about the idea of making them in general?
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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 10:27 pm
Making a rune set involves first a LOT of spiritual work and a lot of study. There are a few rituals for making, naming and blooding runes in Diana Paxson's "taking up the runes". Typical materials are mostly wood or clay and occasionally bone.
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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 10:38 pm
Sanguina Cruenta Making a rune set involves first a LOT of spiritual work and a lot of study. There are a few rituals for making, naming and blooding runes in Diana Paxson's "taking up the runes". Typical materials are mostly wood or clay and occasionally bone. Is there much in the source material about the rituals or are they Paxson's UPG?
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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 10:52 pm
Esiris Sanguina Cruenta Making a rune set involves first a LOT of spiritual work and a lot of study. There are a few rituals for making, naming and blooding runes in Diana Paxson's "taking up the runes". Typical materials are mostly wood or clay and occasionally bone. Is there much in the source material about the rituals or are they Paxson's UPG? I'm not sure UPG is the term for it. (side note, my iPod auto-corrected UPG to all caps. Win) they're an idea, and there are elements that draw from lore for inspiration. I'm not sure I would say they were particularly heathen in style but admittedly it's been a while since I read them. There are no rune-making rituals described in lore, to my knowledge. To clarify, OP, those rituals are an idea to help you if you decide to make them, a sample, not a way it must be done or anything. I do recommend the book as a starter for learning the runes if you haven't yet read it.
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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 10:55 pm
Sanguina Cruenta Esiris Sanguina Cruenta Making a rune set involves first a LOT of spiritual work and a lot of study. There are a few rituals for making, naming and blooding runes in Diana Paxson's "taking up the runes". Typical materials are mostly wood or clay and occasionally bone. Is there much in the source material about the rituals or are they Paxson's UPG? I'm not sure UPG is the term for it. (side note, my iPod auto-corrected UPG to all caps. Win) they're an idea, and there are elements that draw from lore for inspiration. I'm not sure I would say they were particularly heathen in style but admittedly it's been a while since I read them. There are no rune-making rituals described in lore, to my knowledge. To clarify, OP, those rituals are an idea to help you if you decide to make them, a sample, not a way it must be done or anything. I do recommend the book as a starter for learning the runes if you haven't yet read it. Thanks Sang
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Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 6:06 am
The rune sets I find being sold in shops look so horrible and tacky...making your own is definately the way to go.
Mine are Birchwood - from the tree in our backyard.
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Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 7:24 am
Like Sang said, you should really know the runes fairly well before you decide to make a set. If you don't know what you're doing with them, they can do some damage. Misinformation in ignorance surrounding runes is somewhat of an issue for both Sang and myself. If you've got questions about Runes in general, there are several threads floating around here.
As to color, red is traditional.
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Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 11:55 am
Two questions. One what is UPG? Two Raven you said they can do some damage....like what?
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Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 5:20 pm
UPG = unverified personal gnosis
Basically it means things you've experienced personally but there is no lore or documentation to back it up.
As to the damage runes can do, how about a good psychic kick in the teeth. I've heard a few stories of more extreme responses but haven't seen them. I just know that from my own experience, the runes represent a lot of power and they are not from a peaceful and gentle culture, and they need to be handled knowledgeably. Okay, mucking about with the runes magically without knowing what you're doing could be compared to playing around with random chemicals from the science lab when you don't know what any of the names mean.
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Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 5:44 pm
PersianPapiiChulo Two Raven you said they can do some damage....like what? I'd add to what Raven said. The Runes are each a specific Mystery, a concept that is represented by each symbol. When you make use of that symbol, you are drawing upon the whole of that Mystery. People with more experience in using galdr, or runic magic, generally have learned to mediate and shape the flow of the Mystery as they invoke it, in as much as you can. As was said - a runic Mystery called upon without care can be dangerous. You're getting more than you asked for. Since some runes represent types of unrestrained elemental powers, it's really easy to lose your grip on them - and we're talking things here like ice, fire, wounds, need. They are not wishy-washy concepts. They're rooted in survival in a harsh environment, in a cold world, and are not at all prettied up or made nice for modern sensibilities.
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Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 6:24 pm
Very nicely put Morg. You said that much more eloquently than I could have.
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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 6:30 am
Morgandria PersianPapiiChulo Two Raven you said they can do some damage....like what? I'd add to what Raven said. The Runes are each a specific Mystery, a concept that is represented by each symbol. When you make use of that symbol, you are drawing upon the whole of that Mystery. People with more experience in using galdr, or runic magic, generally have learned to mediate and shape the flow of the Mystery as they invoke it, in as much as you can. As was said - a runic Mystery called upon without care can be dangerous. You're getting more than you asked for. Since some runes represent types of unrestrained elemental powers, it's really easy to lose your grip on them - and we're talking things here like ice, fire, wounds, need. They are not wishy-washy concepts. They're rooted in survival in a harsh environment, in a cold world, and are not at all prettied up or made nice for modern sensibilities. Thanks to both of you. Mm. I see. See this is why I have always been hesitant to do any kind of Energy Work. I am all too familiar with concepts that suggest its a bad idea. Again thanks for the information. Just another reminder to be careful when I do Energy Work because I HAVE to start doing some. I cant keep being terrified of it.
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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 8:00 am
Oh no, don't be afraid of energy work. There are a lot types of energy work that are basically mellow and beneficial. Even some forms of meditation are energy work.
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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 8:06 am
CalledTheRaven Oh no, don't be afraid of energy work. There are a lot types of energy work that are basically mellow and beneficial. Even some forms of meditation are energy work. Right. Which is why I am forcing myself to do some simple stuff. Charging a necklace with protective energy, without invoking anything cuz thats asking for trouble, putting energy in my Sword etc. But having grown up reading all sorts of fantasy novels with things like the Law of Equivalent Exchange, or spells backfiring or wishes backfiring, which is worse, I was hesitant.
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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 8:14 am
PersianPapiiChulo CalledTheRaven Oh no, don't be afraid of energy work. There are a lot types of energy work that are basically mellow and beneficial. Even some forms of meditation are energy work. Right. Which is why I am forcing myself to do some simple stuff. Charging a necklace with protective energy, without invoking anything cuz thats asking for trouble, putting energy in my Sword etc. But having grown up reading all sorts of fantasy novels with things like the Law of Equivalent Exchange, or spells backfiring or wishes backfiring, which is worse, I was hesitant. Thing is, often when you're doing magic you're using your own energy. It's part of you, so it's not going to bite. Runes are outside energies that you direct. So if you're not familiar with them, and know what they are and feel like and how to direct them, they can overwhelm you.
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