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 Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:31 am
I know this is a too long, didn't read, but it is important and expresses my beliefs about these subjects down to the most part, stay and chat if you want to talk about these things, if you don't like what I'm trying to say, it is up to you though; I'm not one to insult people on what they belief, I am only expressing what I was urged to express here, I will address these subjects in the below post and talk with you about it in this thread.
BEGINNING:
Quote: In the last days some will depart from the faith and give heed to doctrines of devils.
There have been those who have stopped preaching, believing, trusting in
the word of God(the Bible) as the truth, many pastures and people no
longer believe in a Hell(How many times does God clearly say in the bible
that this is real?), or in The Rapture(this is hinted in the bible so much)
many pastures accept Drunkenness, and other sins into their lives and deny them being wrong now.
Quote: Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, and in the Spirit of our God." (I CORINTHIANS 6:9-11).
And many people believe all kinds of strange concepts led by the Devil to keep people away from believing God's word. Some people try to link the bible with ancient culture in the sense that Mary gave birth to Jesus through the Holy Spirit in the sense that they think this is related to alien abductions, and impregnation by aliens. That is a lie, though the other cities older in those times like Sodom and Gomorrah or other cultures that have told of stories of deities impregnating their people as aliens, many people today consider them aliens, when they are fallen angels.
(I know religion isn't a new thing, I know some of these concepts aren't entirely new, but the word of God speaks about these things if not specifically.)
Quote: 1 Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them, 2 that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose. 3 And the LORD said, “My Spirit shall not strive[a] with man forever, for he is indeed flesh; yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.” 4 There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown. Quote: How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! Quote: Depart from me workers of iniquity, for I never knew you.
Quote: Brothers, we do not want you to be ignorant about those who fall asleep, or to grieve like the rest of men, who have no hope. 14We believe that Jesus died and rose again and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him. 15According to the Lord’s own word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left till the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18Therefore encourage each other with these words. Quote: It Is Not for You to Know the Times or the Seasons ... these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
If you answer about all the good you've done, he'll answer with, "depart from me workers of iniquity for I never knew you."
You may think that you just die when you pass away, but you don't, there is a Heaven and a Hell, if you doubt Hell just take into account how many people get resuscitated everyday as atheists or otherwise not knowing Jesus and have claimed to have seen it. In fact President Ronald Reagan has his own account that can be found within this thread as a video near the end as a few others, these are just famous examples though, people have also claimed to see Heaven though. You see deciding factor on whether you'll go to Heaven or not depends on what you've done with Jesus, did you accept him as savior and lord of your life? Or did you reject him? There isn't a chance after death now, there is only a chance now, in this life. You can't guarantee that you will wake up tomorrow, you can't guarantee that someone won't walk in your room right now while your reading this and kill you, locked or unlocked. Make the decision, you won't regret it one bit.
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 11:48 am
Thank you for making this post, a while earlier I was beginning to doubt God but you have rid me of that doubt.
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:05 pm
King Jelubi Thank you for making this post, a while earlier I was beginning to doubt God but you have rid me of that doubt. No problem dude. ^^
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:03 pm
Can you explain to me why Christianity is any more valid than any other world religion that has come before or since?
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:12 pm
Obscurus Can you explain to me why Christianity is any more valid than any other world religion that has come before or since? Because it says so in the bible and the bible was written by god? Or maybe the voices in their heads tell them so?
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:26 pm
Official Sasuke Uchiha Obscurus Can you explain to me why Christianity is any more valid than any other world religion that has come before or since? Because it says so in the bible and the bible was written by god? Or maybe the voices in their heads tell them so? There are plenty of books that were dictated by deities, angels, or spirits. What makes the Bible any better?
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:39 pm
Obscurus Official Sasuke Uchiha Obscurus Can you explain to me why Christianity is any more valid than any other world religion that has come before or since? Because it says so in the bible and the bible was written by god? Or maybe the voices in their heads tell them so? There are plenty of books that were dictated by deities, angels, or spirits. What makes the Bible any better? I was being sarcastic. Everytime I've argued with a christain they say god wrote the bible therefore it is perfect and he exists... Then why do the pages have names on them? Like John... I thought that god's name was Jehova... Also how is saying to name of your own god blasphemy? I've seriously argued with a christian in real life who got down on his knees and held his hands together then got up and said "Well god told me he is real and you are going to hell" so I told him "Get that schizophrenia checked and don't threaten me with hell, I don't believe in it so it's like robbing a bank with an imaginary gun" I've also met another b***h in the street who told me god talks to her and said he loves me and I'm the 'chosen one'... And she said she was christian then she followed me around until I gave her the slip... It was ******** freaky...
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:02 pm
Official Sasuke Uchiha Obscurus Official Sasuke Uchiha Obscurus Can you explain to me why Christianity is any more valid than any other world religion that has come before or since? Because it says so in the bible and the bible was written by god? Or maybe the voices in their heads tell them so? There are plenty of books that were dictated by deities, angels, or spirits. What makes the Bible any better? I was being sarcastic. Everytime I've argued with a christain they say god wrote the bible therefore it is perfect and he exists... Then why do the pages have names on them? Like John... I thought that god's name was Jehova... Also how is saying to name of your own god blasphemy? I've seriously argued with a christian in real life who got down on his knees and held his hands together then got up and said "Well god told me he is real and you are going to hell" so I told him "Get that schizophrenia checked and don't threaten me with hell, I don't believe in it so it's like robbing a bank with an imaginary gun" I've also met another b***h in the street who told me god talks to her and said he loves me and I'm the 'chosen one'... And she said she was christian then she followed me around until I gave her the slip... It was ******** freaky... I had a feeling you were being sarcastic, but the point needed to be raised. You find fanatical people in all religions and beliefs; Christianity can't really be singled out for that. There are just as many fanatical atheists, Satanists, Muslims, what-have-you.
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:32 pm
Obscurus Official Sasuke Uchiha Obscurus Official Sasuke Uchiha Obscurus Can you explain to me why Christianity is any more valid than any other world religion that has come before or since? Because it says so in the bible and the bible was written by god? Or maybe the voices in their heads tell them so? There are plenty of books that were dictated by deities, angels, or spirits. What makes the Bible any better? I was being sarcastic. Everytime I've argued with a christain they say god wrote the bible therefore it is perfect and he exists... Then why do the pages have names on them? Like John... I thought that god's name was Jehova... Also how is saying to name of your own god blasphemy? I've seriously argued with a christian in real life who got down on his knees and held his hands together then got up and said "Well god told me he is real and you are going to hell" so I told him "Get that schizophrenia checked and don't threaten me with hell, I don't believe in it so it's like robbing a bank with an imaginary gun" I've also met another b***h in the street who told me god talks to her and said he loves me and I'm the 'chosen one'... And she said she was christian then she followed me around until I gave her the slip... It was ******** freaky... I had a feeling you were being sarcastic, but the point needed to be raised. You find fanatical people in all religions and beliefs; Christianity can't really be singled out for that. There are just as many fanatical atheists, Satanists, Muslims, what-have-you. True my friend true. As you could probably guess I'm Atheist... I find it ignorant to believe there was this magical sky f*****t who always existed then one day got bored an made the universe... Another thing I've noticed is alot of Christians will us "How was the universe created then?" as their argument... They believe it ignorant to believe it was just always there yet they can believe in a god... Here if what I think about the universe. The universe as we know it was birthed approx 13.7 billion years ago, the beginning was the cosmic dark age, no stars or light, just sub atomic molecules that eventually grouped together to create the first generation of stars. During this time radical change underwent within a relatively short time (considering the age of the universe) many of these stars will have gone supernova and became blackholes, these first blackholes were close together was the original stars were before the true expansion of the universe so after consuming all around them they turned inwards, eventually make a super Quasar (Hope I'm spelling that right), the black hole of blackholes. The largest Quasar will likely be the point of the earliest parts of the universe are being consumed to this day. As this expansion went outwards more protons and neutrons formed into different atoms, becoming things like iron and earth. Time is most definitely a reality and not a human ideology stars a lifespan, planets have life... Even blackholes will have their life span. This is only a simple run down so I won't go into details. This next part is how I believe this universe we know will end. There will be no true end only a 'break' if you will... Not a big crunch but the universe will tear itself apart. Gravity and Matter fight immemorial in our existence, toward the end of a star's life, for example, gravity wins, as it always has, and the star will become either a White, Red or brown dwarf or if it is large enough a blackhole. However there is a third competitor who is invisible and the true winner. That would be the expanding Dark Matter, something even gravity cannot beat. The galaxies will slowly be pushed away from each other and stretched until they snap like a piece of overused fabric being pulled and then the atoms will become undone, torn apart by this greater force. Once again you will have a dark age with no stars and only sub atoms... If dark matter has a lifetime then eventually it will die and the universe will begin again as it may have done before us.But that is just straying from topic...
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 11:19 pm
Obscurus Official Sasuke Uchiha Obscurus Can you explain to me why Christianity is any more valid than any other world religion that has come before or since? Because it says so in the bible and the bible was written by god? Or maybe the voices in their heads tell them so? There are plenty of books that were dictated by deities, angels, or spirits. What makes the Bible any better? It's because it's widespread. Christianity was brought over to America and Australia from Europe.
And since all of these countries are pretty powerful, spreading the word is easy.
As for God, I'm more of a polytheist. I believe that all religions hold some sort of significance.
However, that doesn't mean that they're not open for questioning, as is everything.
I don't give a rats a** about what the bible thinks of homosexuals and all that jazz.
In my opinion, as long as the person in question isn't hurting anyone, then they can do as they please.
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:42 am
Obscurus Can you explain to me why Christianity is any more valid than any other world religion that has come before or since? It is the only one that believes in salvation by grace, by the doing of God, not by good deeds. And explain why all of this is lining up so perfectly with the book of revelation if it isn't true...you realize in 1948 Israel became a nation again just as it was prophesied in the Book of Ezekiel. And another thing....the bible is the only one that goes into the future such as the book of revelation. Furthermore...since the old testament has been in existence so much longer then the old testament when it says this prophecy? Isaiah 53: 1-10 Quote: 1 Who has believed our message and to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed? 2 He grew up before him like a tender shoot, and like a root out of dry ground. He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him. 3 He was despised and rejected by mankind, a man of suffering, and familiar with pain. Like one from whom people hide their faces he was despised, and we held him in low esteem. 4 Surely he took up our pain and bore our suffering, yet we considered him punished by God, stricken by him, and afflicted. 5 But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was on him, and by his wounds we are healed. 6 We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to our own way; and the LORD has laid on him the iniquity of us all. 7 He was oppressed and afflicted, yet he did not open his mouth; he was led like a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before its shearers is silent, so he did not open his mouth. 8 By oppression[a] and judgment he was taken away. Yet who of his generation protested? For he was cut off from the land of the living; for the transgression of my people he was punished.
9 He was assigned a grave with the wicked,
and with the rich in his death,
though he had done no violence,
nor was any deceit in his mouth.
10 Yet it was the LORD’s will to crush him and cause him to suffer,
and though the LORD makes[c] his life an offering for sin,
he will see his offspring and prolong his days,
and the will of the LORD will prosper in his hand. Do you realize how far back the book of Isaiah was written? Long before the gospels...do you realize that this is referring to Jesus long before the gospels right? It isn't possible for anyone to be able to trick people with such an elaborate trick such as trying to write something based on an old prophecy that was a lie. What good what that do? Why would anyone have been martyred for someone who they knew was a liar? Why would Jesus's deciples have been willing to die for what he said if they thought it were a lie? I don't mean to sound like I'm attacking you, I'm not. But I'm just trying to bring up points, the thing is Biblical Christianity isn't a religion, it is a RELATIONSHIP. That is accepting God's son as savior and Lord. I was so confused before I said that prayer, but you got to understand that it is by faith...not because of what we see...when I said that prayer God entered me...That is about as good as it can be explained in the logical mind....
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 3:50 am
Official Sasuke Uchiha Obscurus Official Sasuke Uchiha Obscurus Official Sasuke Uchiha Because it says so in the bible and the bible was written by god? Or maybe the voices in their heads tell them so? There are plenty of books that were dictated by deities, angels, or spirits. What makes the Bible any better? I was being sarcastic. Everytime I've argued with a christain they say god wrote the bible therefore it is perfect and he exists... Then why do the pages have names on them? Like John... I thought that god's name was Jehova... Also how is saying to name of your own god blasphemy? I've seriously argued with a christian in real life who got down on his knees and held his hands together then got up and said "Well god told me he is real and you are going to hell" so I told him "Get that schizophrenia checked and don't threaten me with hell, I don't believe in it so it's like robbing a bank with an imaginary gun" I've also met another b***h in the street who told me god talks to her and said he loves me and I'm the 'chosen one'... And she said she was christian then she followed me around until I gave her the slip... It was ******** freaky... I had a feeling you were being sarcastic, but the point needed to be raised. You find fanatical people in all religions and beliefs; Christianity can't really be singled out for that. There are just as many fanatical atheists, Satanists, Muslims, what-have-you. True my friend true. As you could probably guess I'm Atheist... I find it ignorant to believe there was this magical sky f*****t who always existed then one day got bored an made the universe... Another thing I've noticed is alot of Christians will us "How was the universe created then?" as their argument... They believe it ignorant to believe it was just always there yet they can believe in a god... Here if what I think about the universe. The universe as we know it was birthed approx 13.7 billion years ago, the beginning was the cosmic dark age, no stars or light, just sub atomic molecules that eventually grouped together to create the first generation of stars. During this time radical change underwent within a relatively short time (considering the age of the universe) many of these stars will have gone supernova and became blackholes, these first blackholes were close together was the original stars were before the true expansion of the universe so after consuming all around them they turned inwards, eventually make a super Quasar (Hope I'm spelling that right), the black hole of blackholes. The largest Quasar will likely be the point of the earliest parts of the universe are being consumed to this day. As this expansion went outwards more protons and neutrons formed into different atoms, becoming things like iron and earth. Time is most definitely a reality and not a human ideology stars a lifespan, planets have life... Even blackholes will have their life span. This is only a simple run down so I won't go into details. This next part is how I believe this universe we know will end. There will be no true end only a 'break' if you will... Not a big crunch but the universe will tear itself apart. Gravity and Matter fight immemorial in our existence, toward the end of a star's life, for example, gravity wins, as it always has, and the star will become either a White, Red or brown dwarf or if it is large enough a blackhole. However there is a third competitor who is invisible and the true winner. That would be the expanding Dark Matter, something even gravity cannot beat. The galaxies will slowly be pushed away from each other and stretched until they snap like a piece of overused fabric being pulled and then the atoms will become undone, torn apart by this greater force. Once again you will have a dark age with no stars and only sub atoms... If dark matter has a lifetime then eventually it will die and the universe will begin again as it may have done before us.But that is just straying from topic... First of all you can say such things and try to give evidence of them such as animals and plants and people evolving, or explain the process of stars based on things that you've seen, but to think that science is all knowing is far fetched wouldn't you think? I mean you can try to explain why things are, show pictures, give evidence but I don't think that anyone has seen a whale or Monkey or Human morph 100% from one creature to another. I'm not saying things don't ever change at least slightly, but have you yourself ever seen a planet change or explode close up enough to see exactly what it is doing in the process?
I understand that you can base things based on what you have been given such as what scientists have found, but that really still is faith. You haven't actually seen the universe form, and don't get me wrong science isn't always wrong and is very right in some cases. But it still can't prove something else doesn't exist, it can only prove what you see with your own physical eyes, and yeah you are right about one thing, the universe is billions of years old, this earth is ancient as well, however the true principle behind the 7,000 year old earth is that it was reformed according to the bible after Satan was cast out of Heaven along with his angels.
Quote: 8But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. 9The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance. 10But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be laid bare.a 11Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives 12as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming.b That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. 13But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, the home of righteousness. 14So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort to be found spotless, blameless and at peace with him. 15Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. 16He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction. 17Therefore, dear friends, since you already know this, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of lawless men and fall from your secure position. 18But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and forever! Amen.
A day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years is like a day. The significance behind this speaks about when the lord will return. We have just passed 7,000 years according to the Hebrew calendar (Not the same type of calendar people use in everyday life.) And soon because of this Jesus will come...I don't put a date on this, but know we are somewhere in the area of that....You see indeed we can't see God, but true Christians believe he is real because of Faith that he gave them, it isn't something that we can do without his help.
I can't prove physically that everything happened, but you realize that scientists have also looked back about 2,000 years ago and have found an eclipse within the timeline, ranging back to the time where Jesus was crucified, but a scientist said this, not necessarily a believer. There are historical texts in Israel and other places mentioned in the bible, along with similar notes such as the red thing that was tied to one of the walls of Jericho, or the names of the people who were going to be burned alive in Babylon by Nebuchadnezzar, on the mountain that where Noah is said to have been on his Ark on Mt. Ararat was said to have been seen on several occasions. In the remains of Sodom and Gomorrah, there is brimstone that is said to be 96-98 percent sulfur, and magnesium. Now you can't actually prove that God didn't do that, you can only offer possibilities of why it was destroyed you see. I don't mean to sound rude if your getting that, it is faith based, just as Science is faith based. I mean I can prove my face exists because I have a mirror, I can prove the tv exists because it is in my living room and works, but how could you prove space exists with your own eyes without a telescope? How can you say without that this earth just doesn't have weird gases in the air that causes this? Same with why the earth can't be flat. Unless you can physically dive into every zone, plane, dimension, or whatever else exists you cannot prove it with physical evidence for either. And yes there is evidence to suggest that certain things have occurred, do you realize the scientific odds of us being crafted in such a manner by chance? According to this page; the odds are so low of life on this planet being made by chance are zero. http://www.science20.com/news_release/the_mathematical_probability_of_life_on_other_earth_like_planets
You can try to explain things, how they form based on what certain molecules create, how they do things, but you can't prove that they exactly happened that way unless you have seen it yourself. Were you alive when the universe was created? No. Was I? No. My point being that either way it is faith based whether to believe or not, however regardless of that I believe because of how God has moved inside of me.
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:16 pm
I'm seeing a common fallacy here.
It is true science can't solve everything.
( Or atleast, it hasn't solved everything to this moment. )
However, why should an incomplete clause be proof for another incomplete clause?
Just because science hasn't proved where we came from doesn't mean that religion is the ULTIMATE answer.
It just means we don't know where we came from.
Sure, I don't know where or what caused everything to be,
but I'm sure as hell not going to believe an entity from out of nowhere made everything or some other kinda of out-there belief on our creation.
So before I'm asked if I've ever asked if I've seen ourselves made, evolved, etc etc...
I would like the answer as to why I would need to physically SEE something if the physical remains were already left behind.
That's like saying fingerprints from a crime scene are invalid because we don't know where they cam from, they were just there.
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:20 pm
Silent Harry Mason Obscurus Can you explain to me why Christianity is any more valid than any other world religion that has come before or since? It is the only one that believes in salvation by grace, by the doing of God, not by good deeds. And explain why all of this is lining up so perfectly with the book of revelation if it isn't true...you realize in 1948 Israel became a nation again just as it was prophesied in the Book of Ezekiel. And another thing....the bible is the only one that goes into the future such as the book of revelation. Furthermore...since the old testament has been in existence so much longer then the old testament when it says this prophecy? Isaiah 53: 1-10 Quote: 1 Who has believed our message and to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed? 2 He grew up before him like a tender shoot, and like a root out of dry ground. He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him. 3 He was despised and rejected by mankind, a man of suffering, and familiar with pain. Like one from whom people hide their faces he was despised, and we held him in low esteem. 4 Surely he took up our pain and bore our suffering, yet we considered him punished by God, stricken by him, and afflicted. 5 But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was on him, and by his wounds we are healed. 6 We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to our own way; and the LORD has laid on him the iniquity of us all. 7 He was oppressed and afflicted, yet he did not open his mouth; he was led like a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before its shearers is silent, so he did not open his mouth. 8 By oppression[a] and judgment he was taken away. Yet who of his generation protested? For he was cut off from the land of the living; for the transgression of my people he was punished.
9 He was assigned a grave with the wicked,
and with the rich in his death,
though he had done no violence,
nor was any deceit in his mouth.
10 Yet it was the LORD’s will to crush him and cause him to suffer,
and though the LORD makes[c] his life an offering for sin,
he will see his offspring and prolong his days,
and the will of the LORD will prosper in his hand. Do you realize how far back the book of Isaiah was written? Long before the gospels...do you realize that this is referring to Jesus long before the gospels right? It isn't possible for anyone to be able to trick people with such an elaborate trick such as trying to write something based on an old prophecy that was a lie. What good what that do? Why would anyone have been martyred for someone who they knew was a liar? Why would Jesus's deciples have been willing to die for what he said if they thought it were a lie? I don't mean to sound like I'm attacking you, I'm not. But I'm just trying to bring up points, the thing is Biblical Christianity isn't a religion, it is a RELATIONSHIP. That is accepting God's son as savior and Lord. I was so confused before I said that prayer, but you got to understand that it is by faith...not because of what we see...when I said that prayer God entered me...That is about as good as it can be explained in the logical mind.... Don't think that I'm attacking you either. I just needed to ask that question. Don't mistake me for someone that doesn't have faith because I believe in a great many things that most people don't, but I don't really see why Christianity is any better than any other religion that's out there. How do I know that Isaiah was written before the birth of Christ? How do I know that prophecy in the Revelation of John is coming true? The language is so vague that it could almost apply to anything, similar to the quatrains of Nostradamus. For the record, I could probably be considered a pantheist and I tend to see the worth in all paths.
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:41 pm
Captain_Shinzo I'm seeing a common fallacy here.
It is true science can't solve everything.
( Or atleast, it hasn't solved everything to this moment. )
However, why should an incomplete clause be proof for another incomplete clause?
Just because science hasn't proved where we came from doesn't mean that religion is the ULTIMATE answer.
It just means we don't know where we came from.
Sure, I don't know where or what caused everything to be,
but I'm sure as hell not going to believe an entity from out of nowhere made everything or some other kinda of out-there belief on our creation.
So before I'm asked if I've ever asked if I've seen ourselves made, evolved, etc etc...
I would like the answer as to why I would need to physically SEE something if the physical remains were already left behind.
That's like saying fingerprints from a crime scene are invalid because we don't know where they cam from, they were just there. Again Christianity wasn't intended to be a religion (Salvation/prosperity by doing good things) It is the belief that by the Lord Jesus Christ's death and resurrection that we are made whole, and redeemed. In fact are you aware that it takes more faith to believe we weren't created by God to believe that we were? God has given evidence of his existence and of the bible's truthfulness. How is it coincidence that Sodom and Gomorrah have the amount of brimstone in it as stated? In fact in modern day society those places are nothing but ruins, another thing is that the remains of Jericho actually has a red ribbon on the remaining wall, there are scientists who have used a device (I don't know what it's called but it basically sort of checks the date of days or something like that and it shows how things look during that day. EX: the lighting, I don't mean something weird like actually time traveling or dimensional traveling.) It came out as I said above in my previous post that they found an eclipse, the eclipse lasted for 12 hours according to the bible. Furthermore explain around us why everything is coming true like the bible said? Lets face it, this one world government is setting up the stage for the Anti Christ to take control of it; another thing from a different angle now. There is a Catholic Prophecy sort of that was predicted by St. Malachy (It doesn't matter what denomination God decides to use) he said in a vision that he saw all the popes, and that the last one would be like Judas. The last one is pope #112, Yeah that may sound sketchy but look at this; the thing is St. Malachy predicted the last one's name to be Peter Romano, and recently (though my memory is slightly sketchy, but I do remember what articles and stuff I have seen) the church headlines or something said this if as close to a quote as possible, "John Paul the Venerable - we honor you! Benedict the Good Shepherd - we love you! (and the directly underneath!) Peter the Roman - we await you!" and if you dig into any of this information using google you can find more on it. But there is more to it then him simply betraying his faith, he is said to be possibly the false prophet as it was predicted that he would be the pope during Armageddon, the Tribulation Period, and the the one who associates with the Anti Christ. If your denying all of this, that is your decision but the thing is that science holds no more information then the stuff being said here. Not to mention the natural disasters and warfare is also associated with the last signs on the scale that it is on.
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