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 Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 9:47 pm
post what you would choose for CC and why.
no Deagles or anything else unreasonable or ridiculous.
I choose a glock 26...because glock.
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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:48 am
I'd choose a Mauser c96, because i'm a fancy-arse vintage b*****d.
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Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 10:16 pm
I would prefer a mid sized handgun something thin something I could comfortably carry through the day in many positions without detection. My Beretta is a bit large and requires some work.
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 3:20 pm
The RIA 1911 Tactical with an old style magazine (7+1) because I am familiar with it and I can use it left handed. Conceals rather nicely under a t-shirt with an IWB holster (well, for what little I can carry it).
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 3:50 pm
Um... Why is a Deser Eagle rediculous? My husband and I are going to get one sometime soon. He wants a .50 cal, I'm not sure if I would be able to handle that. But hell, if we moved to Arizona I'd sure as hell carry a .50 cal DE, just for intimidation.
But I would want a revolver. I revently found a revolver that shot a .223 round. It looked like something from Van Helsing XD
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 4:32 pm
Aakosir Um... Why is a Deser Eagle rediculous? My husband and I are going to get one sometime soon. He wants a .50 cal, I'm not sure if I would be able to handle that. But hell, if we moved to Arizona I'd sure as hell carry a .50 cal DE, just for intimidation.
But I would want a revolver. I revently found a revolver that shot a .223 round. It looked like something from Van Helsing XD Mostly due to it's size. OP was saying concealed carry, which most of the country is. A handgun like a desert eagle would be very difficult to conceal on your person and still have fast access to. If you are in a state that allows open carry, it wouldn't be as big an issue IMHO.
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 4:51 pm
Man of the Demoneye Aakosir Um... Why is a Deser Eagle rediculous? My husband and I are going to get one sometime soon. He wants a .50 cal, I'm not sure if I would be able to handle that. But hell, if we moved to Arizona I'd sure as hell carry a .50 cal DE, just for intimidation.
But I would want a revolver. I revently found a revolver that shot a .223 round. It looked like something from Van Helsing XD Mostly due to it's size. OP was saying concealed carry, which most of the country is. A handgun like a desert eagle would be very difficult to conceal on your person and still have fast access to. If you are in a state that allows open carry, it wouldn't be as big an issue IMHO.
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 6:01 pm
Aakosir Um... Why is a Deser Eagle rediculous? My husband and I are going to get one sometime soon. He wants a .50 cal, I'm not sure if I would be able to handle that. But hell, if we moved to Arizona I'd sure as hell carry a .50 cal DE, just for intimidation.
But I would want a revolver. I revently found a revolver that shot a .223 round. It looked like something from Van Helsing XD intimidation is nothing. listing from most important first in the priorities (at least from what I can gather) practicality>functionality>caliber>capacity>size>weight>ergonomics>coolness>intimidation deagles are huge, heavy,impractical,not guaranteed to function as well as most decent pistols. and as for intimidation, even a .22 short when it's pointed at you is going to look like a cannon. assuming a perp is even going to acknowledge it. you usually dont even wanna hesitate when your life is threatened so intimidation....useless the majority of the time if you want something in the category of approaching the power of a deagle that you are going to trust your life with, you might wanna take a look at a reasonable and practical option. glock 20 and glock 29 they are both in 10mm auto and are much smaller,weigh less,carry more rounds and are guaranteed to function very well. but then again theres nothing really wrong with 9mm or .45acp for that there's the models 26,19,17,21,30,and 36. hell it doesnt even have to be a glock for those calibers I dont reccommend against getting a deagle, I just reccommend against carrying one or otherwise trusting your life to one. it's more like a fun gun for the range.
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 6:09 pm
I don't see how they are impractical.
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 6:45 pm
Aakosir I don't see how they are impractical. I guess you're gonna have to shoot one and lug one around then. size and weight are the same reasons most people wont even carry around a beretta 92 if they had the choice. just for your sake make sure to never ever use hollow points and only use high power loadings because they will be guaranteed to fail with anything else. with the right ammo, you'll only be risking it at best. deagles are just picky like that. not ideal. to add, the large prominent muzzle flash from the deagle is enough to disorient you in most situations, which is yet another factor making it not very ideal for defense. if you dont see how it's impractical, you're just going to have to find out yourself, after you've spent money on it. if you want it for having fun at the range, I can see a bit of reasoning behind it, but using one for self defense is taking a severe risk. theres a choice between "oh this is really cool" and "lets take a look at what we want in a defensive handgun" i've said enough about it... and dont believe the gun deserves any more attention than that.
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Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 8:24 am
When it comes down to having an easy to conceal weapon though, i'd have to go for a .22 LR pistol.
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Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 6:40 pm
Considering I have held and looked at more than a few Desert Eagles and I could handle them very well, I think I would do fine with the "lugging" it around.
A muzzle flash won't do anything unless you're looking directly at the end of the barrell when it fires. I have shot guns that had a two foot muzzle flash and I hit my target just fine, with iron sights at about 100 yards.
And a different type of bullet is not going to work differently in any gun. I don't see how a hollow tip would do anything different than a regular bullet. The only difference would be the damage to the target.
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Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:09 pm
Aakosir Considering I have held and looked at more than a few Desert Eagles and I could handle them very well, I think I would do fine with the "lugging" it around.
A muzzle flash won't do anything unless you're looking directly at the end of the barrell when it fires. I have shot guns that had a two foot muzzle flash and I hit my target just fine, with iron sights at about 100 yards.
And a different type of bullet is not going to work differently in any gun. I don't see how a hollow tip would do anything different than a regular bullet. The only difference would be the damage to the target. 1. we'll see 2. that's true for most guns. deagle muzzle flash is huge enough for the user to see. it's not about hitting what you shoot at the first time, I have no doubts in that, it's about being disoriented AFTER you fire... 3. I reccommend you learn more about guns then.... YES different ammo is going to work differently in certain guns. even most 1911s have feeding trouble with hollow points without modification to the feed ramp. deagles have trouble feeding hollow points period, and also require higher pressure loadings in order to function properly. still not guaranteed to function 100 percent with the right ammo. many guns are picky with the ammo they take...and deagles arent the only ones. 1911s can be, AR7 rifles are an extreme example of ammo picky-ness. theres about countless other designs that have problems with ammo too. proven modern pistols such as glock are made to take just about any bullet type you feed it and keep asking for seconds. about the only ammo problems you'll experience from are bad primers...but that's a problem that can happen with all types of ammo. as for the deagle...I dont think they bothered to work out the kinks. some designs just arent worth the trouble.
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Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:24 pm
Recon_Ninja_985 Aakosir Considering I have held and looked at more than a few Desert Eagles and I could handle them very well, I think I would do fine with the "lugging" it around.
A muzzle flash won't do anything unless you're looking directly at the end of the barrell when it fires. I have shot guns that had a two foot muzzle flash and I hit my target just fine, with iron sights at about 100 yards.
And a different type of bullet is not going to work differently in any gun. I don't see how a hollow tip would do anything different than a regular bullet. The only difference would be the damage to the target. 1. we'll see 2. that's true for most guns. deagle muzzle flash is huge enough for the user to see. it's not about hitting what you shoot at the first time, I have no doubts in that, it's about being disoriented AFTER you fire... 3. I reccommend you learn more about guns then.... YES different ammo is going to work differently in certain guns. even most 1911s have feeding trouble with hollow points without modification to the feed ramp. deagles have trouble feeding hollow points period, and also require higher pressure loadings in order to function properly. still not guaranteed to function 100 percent with the right ammo. many guns are picky with the ammo they take...and deagles arent the only ones. 1911s can be, AR7 rifles are an extreme example of ammo picky-ness. theres about countless other designs that have problems with ammo too. proven modern pistols such as glock are made to take just about any bullet type you feed it and keep asking for seconds. about the only ammo problems you'll experience from are bad primers...but that's a problem that can happen with all types of ammo. as for the deagle...I dont think they bothered to work out the kinks. some designs just arent worth the trouble.
And I'm pretty sure that after I fire a .50 cal hand gun I'm not going to really need to know where my target is. Because they will either be face first on the ground or sprawled on their back.
And don't worry. I'll post some pictures, maybe a video, after we do get our Desert Eagle.
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Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:22 pm
Aakosir Recon_Ninja_985 Aakosir Considering I have held and looked at more than a few Desert Eagles and I could handle them very well, I think I would do fine with the "lugging" it around.
A muzzle flash won't do anything unless you're looking directly at the end of the barrell when it fires. I have shot guns that had a two foot muzzle flash and I hit my target just fine, with iron sights at about 100 yards.
And a different type of bullet is not going to work differently in any gun. I don't see how a hollow tip would do anything different than a regular bullet. The only difference would be the damage to the target. 1. we'll see 2. that's true for most guns. deagle muzzle flash is huge enough for the user to see. it's not about hitting what you shoot at the first time, I have no doubts in that, it's about being disoriented AFTER you fire... 3. I reccommend you learn more about guns then.... YES different ammo is going to work differently in certain guns. even most 1911s have feeding trouble with hollow points without modification to the feed ramp. deagles have trouble feeding hollow points period, and also require higher pressure loadings in order to function properly. still not guaranteed to function 100 percent with the right ammo. many guns are picky with the ammo they take...and deagles arent the only ones. 1911s can be, AR7 rifles are an extreme example of ammo picky-ness. theres about countless other designs that have problems with ammo too. proven modern pistols such as glock are made to take just about any bullet type you feed it and keep asking for seconds. about the only ammo problems you'll experience from are bad primers...but that's a problem that can happen with all types of ammo. as for the deagle...I dont think they bothered to work out the kinks. some designs just arent worth the trouble.
And I'm pretty sure that after I fire a .50 cal hand gun I'm not going to really need to know where my target is. Because they will either be face first on the ground or sprawled on their back.
And don't worry. I'll post some pictures, maybe a video, after we do get our Desert Eagle.I dont think a single round of .50AE FMJ is going to be as effective as it's not going to expand. the bullet is only going to overpenetrate and put whoever is on the other side of him in serious danger. the penetration of the FMJ .50AE bullet is overkill and reckless to use,not to mention the expansion of any FMJ bullet is horribly insufficient. when you look at the way a 9mm or .45acp hollow point expands, you will notice that it is WAY bigger than the diameter of a .50 caliber bullet, and these rounds dont over penetrate so much, but when they do, it's been slowed down or broken up enough to not be as dangerous to anyone else .50AE FMJ will only pass through a person, there's no real transfer of energy into the target. 9mm or .45 ACP JHP is going to transfer the majority of the bullet's energy into your target ultimately inflicting more damage and a much larger wound as the bullet expands. the very reasons that make those 2 bullets THE ideal choice for self defense is: -they do the job just fine -the bullets are cheap and usually don't go into bulky overpriced show pieces -they usually dont overpenetrate a perp as much, which makes everyone around you a lot safer. -you can easily control the weapon you use them in,enabling you to get as many rounds as you need in a short amount of time onto the bad guy -you can generally carry 2 to 3 times as much ammo in a magazine compared to .50AE -they are extremely common and proven in countless cases. -there are ultimately more loadings to choose from -all of the above reasons are exactly why no military, LE department, or govt agency will ever seriously consider adopting deagles and will continue using what works best. reasons that might make .50AE good for self defense? eek - it's very loud?
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