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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 12:45 am
About things, about how people act, about how shitty people really are without realizing it. Like, there is this subconscious part of everyone that tells you to be a douchebag. Or to judge some one, harshly. Or to be friends or closer to some one who is better off than some one else. Some show it more than others. But everyone has it. I have it. The nicest person in the world? Has it.
I wondered what would happen if I was 90lbs and I had an excellent taste in clothing and had the money to buy it. I bet people who would never be seen with me would want to be seen with me then. People who denied me before? Probably would be crawling to me. What if I became famous for whatever reason? Something happened and I was on talk shows all over the place. I bet you guys would want to be my friend now. What if I became absolutely flawlessly beautiful. Its ridiculous and stupid. But its true. All of its true.
I wish I could do that, get down to 90lbs and buy super adorable clothes and s**t, and see how people would treat me then. I seriously do.
Because honestly, everyones a b***h. And I've noticed it. I weigh more than average, I have average knowledge, I don't have any fame or anything special about me. But people who are skinnier, or have nice clothes, or are just in general prettier are generally liked more. I consider myself to have a nice personality because I have a big heart, but apparently that doesn't mean s**t in this world.
So I thought about it, until I'm I don't know, rich, or 90 lbs, or beautiful, or flawless, I won't be getting anywhere in this damn world. And it ******** sucks. Because its already happened to me. I've been not pretty enough for guys, or thin enough. I haven't been smart enough to be friends with some, or rich enough for others. This s**t just sucks.
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 9:30 am
You're probably right. But the best people don't care about that s**t, and those are the people who are going to be the best friends. I don't really want friends who like me just because I'm pretty...
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 9:50 am
WELL FIRST OF ALL adults who weight 90 pounds look skeletal and it's creepy. But yeah, I agree. And I've thought about the same thing, I know if I was a better weight, even if I didn't dress better, I would be more liked. But, that would only be for people who care more about appearance. It wouldn't change the way the people I'm already close to feel about me, though it might make me feel more confident about myself.
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:04 am
But what I'm saying is that whether you realize it or not, ALL people are this judgmental. I mean, in some cases they aren't, but I sit there and talk to my best friends, and they're judging this girl for being overweight. And all I do is sit there and think, "Did they do that to ME before they knew me?" And don't say its just the people from NY who are like this, you're just being ignorant then. Because I've noticed this over the internet too. People who I've called my friend are just as bad. And its just augh. And I'm not saying Im the only exception [******** you paramore], I do it too. And its awful.
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:50 am
How do you think a blind person feels about all of that? They don't.
People have the capacity to not be that way. Most have no one to show them it's wrong and why, no one they will listen to at least.
In a real situation, none of that matters. So it doesn't matter at all.
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 11:31 am
It's like you got inside my brain, and dictated my thoughts.
I still am baffled as to why Brandon likes me and I'm convinced I will lose him if I don't start losing weight again.
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 11:49 am
I see where you're coming from but I don't think it applies to everyone. To me, looks mean ******** all.
You sit me at a table of complete strangers, a mixture of people(pretty girls, pretty boys, gay guys, gay girls, jocks, nerds, rude people, shy people etc etc) and I'll sit and talk to all of them and pick who I like most by how they treat me and, basically if I like their personality.
Boyfran 1: Wasn't attracted to him. Didn't stick out to me at all. We were put in a group together in scouts and I thought he was the funniest person I'd ever met. I'd say a month later I was in love with him. 5 years later, I think he's FAR worse looking then he was when we were together but I still see where the attraction was, even if I don't feel it anymore.
Boyfran 2: Ewwww NO attraction there. Had a big chat, thought he was so nice. Saw him a week later. Same again plus we kissed
etc etc
And the guy I'm scoring now. I'll be honest. Known him to see around the place since I was about 7 years old and always thought he was a ******** minger. We became friendly enough and not long after, he was chatting me up and we drunkenly kissed. Ever since that night I've been attracted to him. Everyone I know who knows him thinks he's a dirtball.
Ok, that went on for far too long, but my point is, I've never picked a friend or a lover for a reason that is visual/social.
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 12:56 pm
I'm with RC because I know plenty of people who are better looking that I cannot STAND compared to my worse looking friends. I don' care if someone else thinks they're ugly. On the inside they are so much more beautiful. I don't care about your height or weight of skin color or background, as long as you treat me nicely I will enjoy your company. If you're a d**k then I'll start judging your looks, because you deserve it. |:
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 1:08 pm
Ennica I'm with RC because I know plenty of people who are better looking that I cannot STAND compared to my worse looking friends. I don' care if someone else thinks they're ugly. On the inside they are so much more beautiful. I don't care about your height or weight of skin color or background, as long as you treat me nicely I will enjoy your company. If you're a d**k then I'll start judging your looks, because you deserve it. |: Holla. cool "If you're a d**k then I'll start judging your looks, because you deserve it. |:" ^^ YESSSSS haha I can think of such a good example of this
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 1:50 pm
Hahahaha, my friends at college aren't very pretty at all. But I did that whole judging thing in high school, started hanging out with the wrong crowd of pretty popular girls. I lost a lot of good friends. It sucks.
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 2:54 pm
I don't agree with any of this... I'm "skinny" and wear nice clothes, but I'm not popular whatsoever. And some people hang around people who have similar interests. If they like fashion, they want to hang out with other people who like to shop and enjoy fashion...idk If I met a "fat" girl who had all the same interests, I would never care that she was fat.
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 3:08 pm
Because we're programmed from an early age as to what it is to be considered 'pretty' or 'sexy', which translates into what the RIGHT kind of person is, unfortunately (and this is physically). When we don't fall under any of those categories, we are immediately considered physically inadequate or 'not good enough' -- this is to the masses.
I decided to do a test -- no one but myself knew about it, so it obviously didn't disturb anyone else. This whole semester I didn't wear any makeup to school. I put some effort into getting ready, but not anything I didn't need. I acted like myself obviously, making everyone around me laugh, etc.
Last day of school, I wore makeup. I got more attention than the whole semester combined.
Another test. I go to this store, Swain's, to get art supplies. Generally when I go, I'm not wearing any makeup. The last time I went, I was wearing makeup. The dude at the register was way too friendly with me, and wanted to know more about me -- he had served me various times before that day.
So in a sense, you could be correct -- it's gotten to a point where it's pretty habitual in a lot of people.
I can't say I've never judged, because I'd be lying. I do, however, catch myself when I'm being judgmental these days, and I ask myself why -- which in turn makes me feel a bit bad, but it's alright. I feel I have passed that stage of my life where I would judge, and now I just try my best to accept everyone for who they are, even if they frustrate/annoy me. In turn, I have fortunately fallen to accept who I am and what I look like -- with makeup and a blow dry, or with nothing on my face and my hair up.
What's good is, we do have people like you, or me, or a few others in this thread who try not to judge -- I think it's a slow, small movement that is progressing into something bigger. Hopefully (aka. with an irrational sense of optimism) one day the whole world will understand that.
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 5:56 pm
@Ennica & Retarded cow: I Can understand what you're saying, I mean I'm the same way, but can you possibly tell me you have never judged ANYONE for their looks? Or the way the dressed? Because even though I choose to like people for their personality, I will still sit there sometimes and accidentally say to myself "Wow, that chick is wearing the ugliest mother ******** shirt" or "s**t, that chick is awkwardly shaped." THEN I FEEL LIKE AN a*****e IMMEDIATELY and I'm like, people do this to me then most likely.
@Keely: U R MEAN GIRLS. :<
@Streets: Well I know you don't agree with this, but i have had multiple conversations with some LSGers who have NEVER talked to you but either a) want to be your best friend solely on your wardrobe/appearance or want to bang you for the same. And remember when you used to troll? It'd be like, right after that too. They wouldn't hate you for the troll because you were so hawt. [which btw bb, you're gorgeous. And I don't mean any of this in a negative way. I think you're fantastic U NO DAT. <3]
@Tanya: THAT WAS LIKE ME. I started wearing make up and people started paying attention to me a little bit more. But now I guess the makeup has lost its effect so I just stopped. And behold, less attention. Its hilarious how literally s**t has ******** us up over the years.
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 6:25 pm
Tanya got it on the dot.
I agree, during first impressions looks matter even if we're not thinking about it. It's only after you get to know them that you can determine if they are a beautiful person inside and out or not.
I know some people who look fantastic and have crappy personalities and for some reason no matter how shitty they are I STILL try to force myself to see the best in them or accept their lame traits. STUPID.
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 6:40 pm
Priskills Tanya got it on the dot. I agree, during first impressions looks matter even if we're not thinking about it. It's only after you get to know them that you can determine if they are a beautiful person inside and out or not. I know some people who look fantastic and have crappy personalities and for some reason no matter how shitty they are I STILL try to force myself to see the best in them or accept their lame traits. STUPID. Its that shitty piece of subconscious we all have, and it sucks. AND THIS IS WHY I HATE HUMANITY IN SO MANY WAYS.
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