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 Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:57 pm
Ok I"m on my mule but I can't believe this.
A major clothing store ad on tv
"babble babble babble Happy Greatsavings Day babble babble babble"
Happy WHAT!? Its bad enough that I'm stuck seeing christmas from sept until; feb. but to skip thanksgiving like that.... yea I know, no Holiday seems to be in the pure forms they are now all money based.
sad sad sad world
Rant over time to get ready for work tomorrow am
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:02 pm
Hear, hear! Thanksgiving seems to have dropped off our lists, along with any meaning why we celebrate holidays at all...
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:07 pm
-like- Oh stressed This isn't facebook. I do hate that Christmas stuff starts in Thanksgiving's domain.
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:14 pm
blaugh Another facebook junkie Thank you both, needed the smile after hearing that ad. I was playing with kitty and looked back to see you had replied. Now I really have to hope to be in bed, I'm not a morning person and scheduled to open and close tomorrow.
Happy Thanksgiving Day, remember to rest and enjoy the little things in life. (Ok so rest might be needed to be reminded but you get the little things)
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:55 am
Today is American Thanksgiving. Not Christmas.
Last month was Halloween, not Christmas.
Another reason why I couldn't care less for Christmas. Besides, the Middle East has conditions totally unlike what the Bible describes during December, placing Yeshua's/Jesus's birth in the Spring or Fall. So all I see is a giant commercialized farce. :/
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:13 am
Ugh, we start seeing xmas stuff around here in frikkin' July. gonk I have to make an effort every year to ignore as much as possible so that I'm not a raving homicidal maniac by December. It doesn't help that they completely skip Thanksgiving (unless you count putting cans of pumpkin mix on sale) and put away the Halloween stuff before it's even Halloween. stressed I try to come up with stuff of my own to do every holiday to give it some meaning other than "BUY BUY BUY!!!"
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 4:37 pm
More disturbing than the rediculous commercialization of the holidays (which has reached unprecedented levels), is the fact that no one wishes to know of the holidays origins. No one really wants to acknowlege that there are celebrations going on for reasons other than the end of another year. And I'm not just talking about the religious overtones that are nigh impossible to seperate from the holidays.
Halloween, and holidays like it from other cultures, is not about the candy. It's about warding off evil sprirts on the night of the year in which the boundries between our world and thiers is at its weakest. It's about remembering and honoring those that passed on. As well as to celebrate the change of seasons. (A real cause for celbration in medieval Europe, as this meant there would be no major wars till things started warming up.) Halloween's origins are mostly just forgotten lke everything else that is subsumed by American culture.
Christmas, well it's obvious that the anti-anything-religious sentiments from the previous decade has had lot to do with Christmas moving away from its most recent interpretation. Of course, this is again an ancient celebration of seasonal change that was subsumed and repurposed, this time by the Christian church.
And I think the true purpose of thanksgiving, that being a holiday were we remeber what we are thankful for, is beginning to be diluted for a couple of reasons. One is that we Americans, on the whole, can be a pretty ungrateful bunch of bastards at times. The other, I think, is that in an attempt to give the holiday some sort of psuedo-history (because come on, the holiday has only been a recognized holiday for about 60 years), American society attached it to an event which it actually had no reason to be attached to, that being the first feastday held by those uptight prudes that settled in Plymouth. A time in which everybody ate, was happy, and even got along with their Native American "friends". And of course anyone with a passing glance at American history knows how well that worked out.
So I think the problem is that no one really wants to remember why it is we have the holidays in the first place, and so are willing to fill in the space with the first thing to come along and do so. Unfortunately for the rest of us, the first thing to come along happended to be American Consumerism.
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 5:24 pm
I think it is important to remember the origins of things like holidays, but everything changes. The problem here, as you said, is in the way our holidays changed.
When discussing Halloween (my fave holiday) with people around here, I tend to downplay the origins because the religious nuts think that makes it an evil day. There's no explaining to them, so the best thing is to just remind them that modern Halloween is about candy and fun.
Christmas is an unavoidable mess, IMO. Neither interpretation has any meaning for me, as I have no religion and shun commercialization.
Thanksgiving was definitely given a raw deal, but I think it's salvageable.
Traditions change, and there's nothing wrong with that. We can enjoy new things and do things differently without forgetting beginnings. We just have to strike the right balance. Unfortunately, most people don't care to learn or remember their history. It's not just holidays that suffer this fate. But sometimes it's ok to let go a little bit. For instance, Valentine's Day was not supposed to be about candy hearts and paper flowers. But there's nothing wrong with the way it is now, except of course the rampant commercialization. But what are you gonna do about that?
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 6:09 pm
Yeah... I work in retail. They started playing Christmas music on November 1st, and the Christmas items started being put out on the sales floor a couple of weeks before that. The items I didn't mind so much, but the music has been torturing me! gonk It gets stuck in my head, so I hear it even after I leave!
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 11:51 pm
I'm pretty much right with other people about the "Skipping Thanksgiving" thing. I'm slowly starting to almost not care about the holiday and I hate myself for that. It seems to just skip a big part about family togetherness because people flip over the smallest things and let their anger out on the wrong people. I work in grocery retail so we don't have our Black Friday, we have our Black Wednesday. My work gets insane with turkeys, I can't even remember the last time I got a Thanksgiving day off so I never make it to dinner until its time for dessert. And then there's the crazies involving Black Friday.
My roomies and I went to Walmart around 11pm on Thanksgiving evening just to grab one or two things for home. No big, sections of the store were crammed with people who were waiting with their carts already full for the BF sales to begin either on midnight and 5am, it was ridiculous. It made me sick to see kids passed out tired as hell asleep in carts where they should be in bed all comfy in warm in their jammies. NOT in a store bc their parents want to get their damn 50% off a plasma tv and junk.
Last year made me disgusted with humanity when a man was trampled..no I'm not kidding....TRAMPLED to death on Black Friday by shoppers as soon as the doors had opened and not even security could go and help him because of the waves of bodies rushing to get their savings and trinkets. Just wait one day we're gonna end up like that movie Idiocracy.....
On a lighter note anyone on Facebook wanna add me PM me xd
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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 11:15 am
I know so many people who are afraid to go out on Black Friday just because of how dangerous it is. It is quite sickening, I agree. I don't know how the day got its name, but it seems quite appropriate now.
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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 4:30 pm
*puts on bow tie, spectacles, and tweed jacket*
*casts manifest podium*
ahem
The term Black Friday was, and still is, associated with the superstition of certain Friday's being unlucky. Especially those landing on the 13th day of a given month. The reasons for the day being unlucky vary from culture to culture, and from time period to time period.
Black Friday was first used to describe the shopping day after Thanksgiving by the Philadelphia Police Department working the city center district in 1966. To them, "Black Friday" signified the opening of the christmas shopping season, and with it, a massive increase in traffic jams and over-crowded sidewalks as the downtown stores are mobbed from opening to closing.
Though the term "Black Friday" did begin to spread, it was not a rapid one. The term and it's associated shopping fervor and increase in headaches, was still widely unknown almost twenty years after it came into use, as shown by a 1985 Philadelphia article in which it was pointed out that citizens and retailers of Los Angeles and Cincinnati were still unaware of the term's shopping connotation.
*podium vanishes*
Thank you.
((All info ripped from that wiki site. Like, I'm gonna know something as ridiculous as this.))
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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 7:45 pm
I work in retail as well (I might have stated that but I" dead tired, fist day off since Thanksgiving morning when I opened. We has Christmas things up early too, before school hing really were out I think. (sorry rl has been hard since Aug.)
I stopped trying to do anything but work on Holidays since I was a teen.... The greed of family sickened me. As Black Friday hits more and more crazy, I can't help but wonder how families even have time to spend a family based, peaceful Thanksgiving, remembering why we are thankful for thing we have (not gadgets)
People change too, rude, demanding they are the most important (more than normal.
I'm so relieved I"m no te only one having issues with how things have and are going. (Oh don't forget the new "Cyber Monday"
(Fading to bed, almost goat called in today but I had nothing clean)
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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 11:34 am
Yea I just heard that new name from one of my regular customers who work at an online store. I thought that was nuts. If you ever need anyone to vent to about the retail life. Just PM me, us retailers gotta stick together xp
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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 3:09 pm
LOL I just might. I know that retail is to get me through school, but GAH!
Have a Safe Holiday season, regardless how it will be celebrated or ignored or hidden from. *Hides from RL* heart
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