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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 4:40 pm
I'm sorry, but if it's a buddhist belief to find truth in all religions then i honestly don't see how it is so wrong.
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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 4:35 pm
how could it anyway you are right . who are people to judge right or wrong religion wise?
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 11:15 am
It's not necessarily "wrong", but it's not God-centered. It's wrong in our eyes because we're told that God is the truth. A life without God is blind soul-searching.
How would you like it if for your whole life you searched and worked hard and did many good deeds but in the end you're rejected at the gate of heaven for not believing in God to be the final truth?
So it's not "wrong", it's just not "true"
I say that as how I think. Justice, morals, right/wrong, and truth, is in the eye of the beholder.
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 5:33 pm
Elenoa It's not necessarily "wrong", but it's not God-centered. It's wrong in our eyes because we're told that God is the truth. A life without God is blind soul-searching. How would you like it if for your whole life you searched and worked hard and did many good deeds but in the end you're rejected at the gate of heaven for not believing in God to be the final truth? So it's not "wrong", it's just not "true" I say that as how I think. Justice, morals, right/wrong, and truth, is in the eye of the beholder. You don't have to believe in God to get into heaven though. He sees the entire big picture, you have to remember that he is very just and fair and loving also.
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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 6:33 am
Guitarhero356 Elenoa It's not necessarily "wrong", but it's not God-centered. It's wrong in our eyes because we're told that God is the truth. A life without God is blind soul-searching. How would you like it if for your whole life you searched and worked hard and did many good deeds but in the end you're rejected at the gate of heaven for not believing in God to be the final truth? So it's not "wrong", it's just not "true" I say that as how I think. Justice, morals, right/wrong, and truth, is in the eye of the beholder. You don't have to believe in God to get into heaven though. He sees the entire big picture, you have to remember that he is very just and fair and loving also. Provide scripture reading for that, please.
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Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 12:48 pm
Elenoa Guitarhero356 Elenoa It's not necessarily "wrong", but it's not God-centered. It's wrong in our eyes because we're told that God is the truth. A life without God is blind soul-searching. How would you like it if for your whole life you searched and worked hard and did many good deeds but in the end you're rejected at the gate of heaven for not believing in God to be the final truth? So it's not "wrong", it's just not "true" I say that as how I think. Justice, morals, right/wrong, and truth, is in the eye of the beholder. You don't have to believe in God to get into heaven though. He sees the entire big picture, you have to remember that he is very just and fair and loving also. Provide scripture reading for that, please. You shouldn't need scripture reading to know that God is just and loving. You want scripture reading, look at repentance in the bible. You want scripture reading, look at the whole love thy neighbor thing and that stuff. stare
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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:03 pm
Guitarhero356 Elenoa Guitarhero356 Elenoa It's not necessarily "wrong", but it's not God-centered. It's wrong in our eyes because we're told that God is the truth. A life without God is blind soul-searching. How would you like it if for your whole life you searched and worked hard and did many good deeds but in the end you're rejected at the gate of heaven for not believing in God to be the final truth? So it's not "wrong", it's just not "true" I say that as how I think. Justice, morals, right/wrong, and truth, is in the eye of the beholder. You don't have to believe in God to get into heaven though. He sees the entire big picture, you have to remember that he is very just and fair and loving also. Provide scripture reading for that, please. You shouldn't need scripture reading to know that God is just and loving. You want scripture reading, look at repentance in the bible. You want scripture reading, look at the whole love thy neighbor thing and that stuff. stare The reason I ask, is because the last time I checked, you need to BELIEVE in God to reach Salvation. You can't get Salvation by searching for Nirvana. God=/=Nirvana (Buddhist Heaven) And you basically told me that you don't have to believe in God to achieve Salvation, so of course I want to know how on EARTH you can get that answer from reading the Bible or something else.
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:54 pm
Elenoa Guitarhero356 Elenoa Guitarhero356 Elenoa It's not necessarily "wrong", but it's not God-centered. It's wrong in our eyes because we're told that God is the truth. A life without God is blind soul-searching. How would you like it if for your whole life you searched and worked hard and did many good deeds but in the end you're rejected at the gate of heaven for not believing in God to be the final truth? So it's not "wrong", it's just not "true" I say that as how I think. Justice, morals, right/wrong, and truth, is in the eye of the beholder. You don't have to believe in God to get into heaven though. He sees the entire big picture, you have to remember that he is very just and fair and loving also. Provide scripture reading for that, please. You shouldn't need scripture reading to know that God is just and loving. You want scripture reading, look at repentance in the bible. You want scripture reading, look at the whole love thy neighbor thing and that stuff. stare The reason I ask, is because the last time I checked, you need to BELIEVE in God to reach Salvation. You can't get Salvation by searching for Nirvana. God=/=Nirvana (Buddhist Heaven) And you basically told me that you don't have to believe in God to achieve Salvation, so of course I want to know how on EARTH you can get that answer from reading the Bible or something else. I didn't get that from the bible or anything else. It is what my instinct tells me, and in all the years of my life it has yet to fail or lie to me.
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 6:42 pm
You know, that's what causes Christianity to spilt
"You don't have to believe in God to go to heaven!" "Zomg you lies! I'm going to start my own sect of religion that says you have to believe in God to get into heaven!" "Fine, forget you! I'll start my own too!"
I know God loves and forgives everyone who repents wholeheartedly, but I find it difficult to understand what you're trying to say here. From what I'm understanding what you're saying so far: "You can reach Nirvana through being Enlighted from the Buddhist teaching, and the Buddhist heaven and God's heaven are the same!" Is that correct?
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 1:22 pm
Elenoa You know, that's what causes Christianity to spilt "You don't have to believe in God to go to heaven!" "Zomg you lies! I'm going to start my own sect of religion that says you have to believe in God to get into heaven!" "Fine, forget you! I'll start my own too!" I know God loves and forgives everyone who repents wholeheartedly, but I find it difficult to understand what you're trying to say here. From what I'm understanding what you're saying so far: "You can reach Nirvana through being Enlighted from the Buddhist teaching, and the Buddhist heaven and God's heaven are the same!" Is that correct? It's simple really. In the end do you choose to side with good or evil? While there is preffered paths, if you choose a path of good, it will eventually lead to God. Does that make sense?
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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 10:39 am
Guitarhero356 Elenoa You know, that's what causes Christianity to spilt "You don't have to believe in God to go to heaven!" "Zomg you lies! I'm going to start my own sect of religion that says you have to believe in God to get into heaven!" "Fine, forget you! I'll start my own too!" I know God loves and forgives everyone who repents wholeheartedly, but I find it difficult to understand what you're trying to say here. From what I'm understanding what you're saying so far: "You can reach Nirvana through being Enlighted from the Buddhist teaching, and the Buddhist heaven and God's heaven are the same!" Is that correct? It's simple really. In the end do you choose to side with good or evil? While there is preffered paths, if you choose a path of good, it will eventually lead to God. Does that make sense? Yes, but you don't get into Heaven by being "good" or doing "good deeds" like donation or being a Vegetarian. Do you even know ALL of the buddhist teachings? You have to chant a lot of the scrolls that doesn't really make any sense except to the buddhists. I know Buddhist's teaching is that you have to be good to nature, so in return it will be good to you, but there are still human vices in the process. A monk may be sitting here meditating, but who on EARTH would know what he's meditating over? For all you know, he could be thinking of rough sex with a dog. You cannot get into Heaven except from believing and following in God and Jesus Christ the Savior. You should know this. Buddha teaches, but he cannot save you. Only Jesus can save AND teach at the same time.
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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 11:37 am
Not all religions can be right because they teach conflicting ideas. Example: Jesus says, "I am the way, the truth and the light. No one comes to the Father except through me." Meaning Jesus is the only way to heaven. And yet other religions say that (insert any other religious belief) is the only way to heaven. Those can't both be right.
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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 12:57 pm
Mandocello Not all religions can be right because they teach conflicting ideas. Example: Jesus says, "I am the way, the truth and the light. No one comes to the Father except through me." Meaning Jesus is the only way to heaven. And yet other religions say that (insert any other religious belief) is the only way to heaven. Those can't both be right. See, a Buddhist doesn't see things that way. They see that there are many paths to enlightenment, and that other religions just follow different paths. To a Buddhist, a Christian is following a good path. Maybe not the one that is most efficient or effective in their eyes, but they would accept it as a valid course of action. Just as they would other faiths. And Elenoa, look at Buddhism a bit closer please. The chanting is something done for meditation. It is often not even anything with any meaning at all, but something to aid concentration or clear the mind. There are rarely words. The standard OM is just that, a drawn out sound. Meditation is done to clear the mind of thoughts. You don't meditation on anything. You instead let thoughts flow through your mind, not holding or dwelling on any of them. If you get answers through it, it is because they drifted into your mind, not because you sought them or worked them out through effort.
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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 1:13 pm
But Christianity believes that there is only one path. How can a religion that teaches there is only one path and one that teaches there are many paths be true? How can there be more than one truth? This isn't a question of whether the glass is half-empty or half-full; it's more like "is glass completely empty or completely full". It can't be both.
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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 1:50 pm
Mandocello But Christianity believes that there is only one path. How can a religion that teaches there is only one path and one that teaches there are many paths be true? How can there be more than one truth? This isn't a question of whether the glass is half-empty or half-full; it's more like "is glass completely empty or completely full". It can't be both. For the buddhists, what you think is unimportant. They don't care what you have in your head for that kind of thing. All that matters is that you live a life that is harmonious and doesn't do harm. And even then, they don't believe in good or evil in a conventional sense, so there is not any problem with accepting people who don't believe in the faith. While in Christianity there are believers and disbelievers, in Buddhism there are people who follow paths. All are equalty justifiable, just that certain ones are designed better than others and focus on more important things.
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