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 Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 6:25 pm
I'm knuckling down to my runic studies once again, and I value input and discussion with others as a way to get closer to each Mystery.
I'm working on Ansuz today but hope to go over every rune more than once in the not too distant future.
Edit: I'm happy to focus this as a general learning thread on the subject. Everyone interested is welcome to lurk or contribute in any way.
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Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:00 pm
Mind if I join you? I keep trying to work on my own runic sturdies and getting distracted with other stuff halfway through.
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Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:08 pm
Please do.
I spent an hour on Ansuz today going through my books. My love of Pollington grows ever stronger. He doesn't have much to say but yet, he is so helpful. He sees "Os" as a possible pun related to Oðinn, so his OE rune-poem translates it directly to "God", so:
God is the origin of all language
wisom's foundation
and wise man's comfort
and to every hero blessing and hope.
Which changes it a bit for me. Oðinn as a wise man's comfort and a hero's (or earl's, to go by a different translation) blessing and hope is interesting to me.
I'm also musing on Ansuz and it's relation to Thurisaz - like a scabbard and a sword. Ansuz as a scabbard is directly mentioned in the Norwegian poem, even.
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Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:11 pm
I'll get me started tomorrow and join in then. Right now I should be writing an argumentative essay, or sleeping. Dratted early morning classes.
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Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:16 pm
I'll be following along. I don't know that I have a lot to say on the subject but I'm interested.
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 4:36 am
I carved myself a set of runes earlier this year and then I used an Aboriginal burning tecnique to mark them. I'm really quite pleased with them.
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 4:44 am
I know I want to learn tarot first because it fits my correspondences in my path but, I really want to learn about runes too. I've been asking if there is anything unethical about people from other paths and faiths learning the runes and incorporating them into practice, but I haven't gotten a straight answer. crying
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 5:11 am
Adalyna I know I want to learn tarot first because it fits my correspondences in my path but, I really want to learn about runes too. I've been asking if there is anything unethical about people from other paths and faiths learning the runes and incorporating them into practice, but I haven't gotten a straight answer. crying This is basically it: You can use runes, if you want to. That's okay. But they are sacred things, and they are sacred to Northern religion, and to Oðinn in particular. So, if you want to use them, you should learn them properly. A lot of people have appropriated them for their own divinatory systems (which runes aren't primarily even for) or seriously dumbed them down, misunderstood their very nature, etc. And these authors feed off've one another, too, and a lot of ENPs and eclectic witches - and others - who don't know any better or don't care will buy these books, because these books make it "easy". They perpetuate runes as a solely divinatory system, one that can be learned from flicking through one of these books and then using some of the runes that often come packaged with the book... Anyway. You have authors like Blum and Sirona Knight who spread this crap around. About these energies, Mysteries and symbols that are nothing less than sacred. Germanic cultures are open. You can use runes if you want to. But this is one area where our traditions get seriously raped and yes, a lot of Heathens get upset about it. It's easier to say "well only Heathens should use them" because at least then you're more likely to get people who actually care and want to learn them properly. But I don't want to say that. I don't think we should say that. That's greedy of us. But I do think that only people who make the effort to learn them properly should use them - if nothing else they are very powerful energies that underlie more than just Midgarð and I don't want someone ******** around with them if they don't at least understand what they are. Learning them requires knowledge of Northern lore. It requires knowledge of Northern culture. It requires knowledge of the gods and I'd suggest at least a passing acquaintance with Oðinn is required, since he won them in the first place. Because of the amount of work involved, I have a hard time understanding why a non-Heathen would bother.
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 7:14 am
Sanguina Cruenta Adalyna I know I want to learn tarot first because it fits my correspondences in my path but, I really want to learn about runes too. I've been asking if there is anything unethical about people from other paths and faiths learning the runes and incorporating them into practice, but I haven't gotten a straight answer. crying This is basically it: You can use runes, if you want to. That's okay. But they are sacred things, and they are sacred to Northern religion, and to Oðinn in particular. So, if you want to use them, you should learn them properly. A lot of people have appropriated them for their own divinatory systems (which runes aren't primarily even for) or seriously dumbed them down, misunderstood their very nature, etc. And these authors feed off've one another, too, and a lot of ENPs and eclectic witches - and others - who don't know any better or don't care will buy these books, because these books make it "easy". They perpetuate runes as a solely divinatory system, one that can be learned from flicking through one of these books and then using some of the runes that often come packaged with the book... Anyway. You have authors like Blum and Sirona Knight who spread this crap around. About these energies, Mysteries and symbols that are nothing less than sacred. Germanic cultures are open. You can use runes if you want to. But this is one area where our traditions get seriously raped and yes, a lot of Heathens get upset about it. It's easier to say "well only Heathens should use them" because at least then you're more likely to get people who actually care and want to learn them properly. But I don't want to say that. I don't think we should say that. That's greedy of us. But I do think that only people who make the effort to learn them properly should use them - if nothing else they are very powerful energies that underlie more than just Midgarð and I don't want someone ******** around with them if they don't at least understand what they are. Learning them requires knowledge of Northern lore. It requires knowledge of Northern culture. It requires knowledge of the gods and I'd suggest at least a passing acquaintance with Oðinn is required, since he won them in the first place. Because of the amount of work involved, I have a hard time understanding why a non-Heathen would bother. I can give you a good reason, because I like the religion even though it's not my path. I definitely would like to learn more about the runes in their actual context and I'm already working on learning more about heathery. It's not my path but the mythology is just awesome. My cosmology conflicts with it and I have do a complete paradigm shift to properly acknowledge the gods, which is ok, I like working under different assumptions sometimes. I wish my cosmology didn't conflict with others because I wish I could just be a hard polytheist and say, yeah pretty much most of them exist if not all of them, but my own cosmology says this: every spirit god or otherwise has its exact opposite with completely opposite personalities, their relationships differ sometimes opposites attract, sometimes they repel. The cosmology in heathenism is totally different and I think to me to try to mesh them together would be culture rape on my part, but that doesn't bar me from learning about the religion because I'm interested in it and what its about and I see great value in what it brings to people, its not the main thing I'm working on because I need to develop my own tradition first, but I would like to learn more about this faith for what it is. I considered it for myself numerous times, and I'm sure if I didn't choose to create the eclectic path I'm on now, I'd be following this one. No offense to Catholism, but when I first heard of Freya, and I understand her to be very wild and lusty and powerful, I found her to be a hugely refreshing change from the Virgin Mary in Catholicism who was the only real female figure I had to look up to in that religion. The fact that the gods can be very scary and have their bad points makes them easier to relate to I feel in many pagan religions. I think I could have made a decent Heathen if I wasn't doing the thing I'm doing now. I've always been heavily drawn to stories inspired by this belief system and it was among the religions whom, when I discovered still existed in this day and age I found great happiness just in knowing that.
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 7:19 am
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 7:05 pm
I'm starting work on Raido today if anyone's playing along at home 4laugh
The thing about starting work on a new rune is that it seems so simple at first glance. sweatdrop
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 8:10 pm
Okay, passed the "wow, it simply means that, job done" stage and onto the "OH GOD MY HEAD" stage. >.>
WTF DOES REGIN HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING.
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 8:59 am
Raido always seems to show up for me when I'm sitting on my a** and I should be moving. It's very much a rune of "Don't take the easy road", for me - which is sort of bound up with a sense of humour, since I broke my tailbone riding. No road I ride, horseback or otherwise, is ever physically comfortable to me anymore. I keep going anyway.
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:53 pm
Bleargh! I was planning on following along with this but I got all caught up with family stuff. Grumble. I just need to set aside some time for it.
Also San, Regin? How'd he come up?
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:48 pm
Regin's in the Norwegian Rune-poem.
"Riding they say is worst for horses;
Regin forged the best sword."
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