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AdoraSky

PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 5:24 pm


ok well i have a bf...and he does weed he buys them from a dude at gymnastics....and he said he doesnt do it anymore....but i not sure if he is telling the truth.....and i dont know if does it or not... and when i kiss him i dont want to get a dieases form that...any advice for me?


i need advice....any advice..help! thanks...
PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 5:52 pm


I went through something like this.

When I first met my boyfriend, he told me that he had experimented a lot with alocohol and drugs. Then a few weeks into our relationship, he asked me if I would mind if he went to a friends house to do some weed because they were getting rid of what they had.

Now me, I can't stand it when people do drugs. I told him that I couldn't do anything to stop him but I didn't want him to. I told him that I didn't know if I wanted to be in a relationship with someone who did drugs. He told me that he wouldn't do it if it meant that much to me.

I'll tell you now...I still wonder to this day if he did or not. I remember I went bowling and that was all that was on my mind...was he lying? I hated it and my friends didn't help because they all told me he probably was. He lives far off so I would never know.

In the end, you'll probably never know and you'll probably always wonder. If you believe that you mean a lot to him...then put faith. Tell him that you're not sure (but don't say you doubt because then they get all pissy for some reason) if he's telling you the truth. Explain to him why you don't want him to (the whole kissing thing) and such.

It's not like we can put a homing device on them. Believe me, I would have bought like 50 million of them already if I could.

Fatal_Rei


Nikolita
Captain

PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 8:08 pm


Shadow_Inuyasha_girl
ok well i have a bf...and he does weed he buys them from a dude at gymnastics....and he said he doesnt do it anymore....but i not sure if he is telling the truth.....and i dont know if does it or not... and when i kiss him i dont want to get a dieases form that...any advice for me?


i need advice....any advice..help! thanks...


Relationships are largely about trust, as well as communication. If you can't trust your partner to tell the truth when he says he is doing/not doing something, then you're likely to run into problems during your relationship.

If him smoking weed bothers you, sit him down and talk to him about it. Ask him to come clean and tell the truth. If he says he's not, great. If he says he is, then you two can deal with it and take it from there.

On a side note, if he says he's not doing weed, you can tell him you're happy - but that if you ever find out he's lying, you'll leave him. People who lie and break their word to you show that they are not demonstrating respect for you, and that they don't have the courage to even tell you the truth. Would you really want to date someone who lies to you, or someome whom you can't trust?
PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 11:29 pm


Shadow_Inuyasha_girl
ok well i have a bf...and he does weed he buys them from a dude at gymnastics....and he said he doesnt do it anymore....but i not sure if he is telling the truth.....and i dont know if does it or not... and when i kiss him i dont want to get a dieases form that...any advice for me?


i need advice....any advice..help! thanks...


I have no comment on the him doing drugs issue, but I do on you kissing him:

The only disease you should worry about that you can get from kissing is either mono or herpes. Otherwise, you won't get any disease that is permanent or worth worrying about. Weed can't give you diseases. One of the many reasons people do weed is because the effects and affects are never permanent. He's not going to get a disease from weed unless his bud had herpes and takes a hit from the same bong, pipe, or blunt.

One-man Genocide


Akhakhu

PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 8:34 am


1) Light blue font on a white background is very hard to see. Please choose a more visible color next time. Thank you smile

2) You will not catch a disease from kissing someone who smokes weed (at least not from the weed). That is something you do not need to worry about.

3) A correction to Undying Sorrow:
Weed DOES have some permanent effects. These effects are just rather subtle. Research is still fairly limited, but we've already found that THC targets the hippocampus (the part of the brain that affects short term to long term memory conversion -- chronic smokers often have very poor memories). And this assuming that ALL you are smoking is the weed without any additives. Rare is the person able to find weed that isn't laced with all kinds of disgusting things.

4) Trust
As Niko said, a relation without trust will not be a relationship for long (or at least not a happy one). If you are in a relationship, you need to trust until proven wrong. Once proven wrong, you need to decide if you can ever trust that person again. If not, best to end it quickly.

5) Drug Problems
I had to deal with this myself. Both my grandmothers and my nanny smoked cigarettes. My mother's mother died in her early 40s from lung cancer (yeah, you know that bullshit people will tell you about how it will kill you later in live? Turns out it depends on the individual and you don't know which kind of individual you are until it's too late). I never knew her. My mother, who had a fairly turbulant relationship with her mother in her teens, never got to make peace. She still carries that baggage around with her.

One of my very first memories was being about five or six years old and looking into a coffin at my nanny, the woman who had raised me since I was about 10 days old. She died of a stroke caused by her smoking habbit. She was in her mid-50s.

When I was 14-16, I spent all my summers at my grandmother's house taking care of her (my aunt took care of her the rest of the year and I came to give her a bit of a break). I loved my grandmother. She was one of my best friends and I could always tell her anything. Most of my best memories from growing up involved her. But during these years, I started to hate her. And now I still hate myself for that. I had to bathe her, and wash her breathing machines, and hold her over the toilette, this was 24 hour care doing things I never ever ever want to have to do again. It was disgusting, it was hard, and all this time I had to watch this woman I loved more than anything waste away. And I knew that I was being caused all this pain because of a choice SHE made. So when you hear idiot assholes saying "it's my body, I can do what I want with it," just tell them to shut the ******** up because it's the people who love them who have to care for them. SHE put me in that position through HER choices and I hated her for it. She died just after her 80th birthday of lung cancer after spending close to ten years in and out of hospitals, going through kimo therapy, and having to deal with all the pain that comes from kimo therapy.

So when I fell in love with a man who smoked... that was that. That's my deal breaker. I will NOT let another person make some stupid selfish decision that I end up having to pay for. I told him that. If he didn't stop smoking, I would leave him because I would rather the pain of a break up now than have to suffer for years watching him waste away from his own actions later. That night, he gave his remaining cigarettes to his brother and never smoked again.

It was extremely hard. Cigarettes are extremely addictive. He's told me that he still craves them sometimes, even now (5 years later). He's also thanked me for giving him a reason to quit, for saving him. He may have been angry with me at first when I gave him an ultimatum, but he's glad now. And whenever I forget to appreciate him or start to take him for granted, I just have to remember all the pain he went through so that he could be with me.

Lucky for you, weed isn't nearly as addictive (either psychologically or physically). I would recommend doing some research before you talk to him. You mentioned being worried about catching a disease, so you obviously don't know too much about this. Do some research so that you can back up an argument. Then do some serious thinking. WHY don't you want him to smoke? If you don't fully understand your reasons yourself, there's no way you can make him understand them.

When you are ready, sit him down and talk to him. Explain to him why you don't want him to smoke. Be clear about it. Don't give any bullshit like "I just don't" or "it's gross." Come up with something substantial. For me, it was my personal experiences with the drug in question combined with my fiance's added health risks (weak heart and the blood tube things to his brain are too small). Back up your personal reasons with facts. If you care a lot about this, put your foot down. If, while doing your research, you realize that the effects are extremely moderate and that they only every really become realized if a person smokes a good deal, maybe you just want to talk to him about cutting down (say to once a month or on special occasions, something like that). What you don't want to be is that annoying girlfriend who just gives ultimatums left and right without even clearly understanding why she's doing it or having any real reasons to.

If it turns out that you are more worried about additives to weed than the actual weed itself, maybe you could make a deal with him. For example, maybe you would be willing to help pay for better quality stuff, or you want to be involved so that you can check out dealers and things like that.

(By the way, the "gateway drug" argument is extremely accurate but it will not work. I can guarantee that. Everyone likes to believe that they have self control. Don't bother building your argument around that. Come up with hard medical/physical facts instead.)
PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 10:28 am


Well I'm not sure if you can get a disease from kissing someone who smokes weed but...

Anywho I'd watch him at gymnastics to see if he really is still getting any. I'd also confront him about it. You two need to trust eachother.

Kiwisticks


AdoraSky

PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 10:41 am


my mom told me that....if the guy had a cut or some mark, bubble thingy i forgot.....and you kiss him you can get a diease.
he does weed...i think he chews them or sniff them i douno.....could be both but he said he does it cuz it feels better for him.plus my best friend bf does the same thing.
im so confused. confused
PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 11:00 am


After reading Kukushka's post, I wanted to give my 2 cents about my experiences with marijuana.

I've never done drugs myself, nor have I ever smoked. But in high school, I had a friend (I'm still friends with her now, she just lives on the other side of the country) who was my age, and started smoking weed. I think she started in grade 9, maybe grade 10. So a little older than you are.

As she grew older and we went through high school together, she always told me that "weed was not addictive", and that she "could stop smoking it at any time." Well, when we graduated together, she was still smoking it when she could get her hands on it.

After graduation, she moved back home to where she was raised, and kept smoking weed. Sadly, she later admitted to me that she could not stop smoking - that it had become an addiction she couldn't stop. Shortly afterwards, she started doing "E" (ecstacy), which is much worse than marijuana. She stopped doing pot, but this new drug was more dangerous and had more side-effects. She admitted that pot was a "gateway drug", meaning that pot was like a stepping-stone up towards other, more dangerous drugs.

Thank God she stopped doing "E", because I was seriously afraid she was going to OD on some tainted "E one night, and I'd be flying across the country to go to her funeral.

My point in this point? Weed DOES have side-effects, it IS dangerous, and it IS harmful to the brain. If he is smoking it, tell him to stop, or get out of the relationship. You've already told us that you're not comfortable with him doing it, so there isn't a point in being in the relationship with him if he's going to continue to smoke pot.

Nikolita
Captain


Chalda

PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 11:35 am


My major issue with drugs is that they are illegal. Every time he does this he is breaking the law and could get in some serious trouble for it. I doubt that is going to convince him to stop but that is how I feel about it.

My husband's group of friends used to drink and do drugs and all of that stuff. He chose not to even while they were and that is one of the qualities that I really admire about him. I don't think I could fully trust someone who was ok with doing those kinds of illegal things.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 5:05 pm


Shadow_Inuyasha_girl
my mom told me that....if the guy had a cut or some mark, bubble thingy i forgot.....and you kiss him you can get a diease.
he does weed...i think he chews them or sniff them i douno.....could be both but he said he does it cuz it feels better for him.plus my best friend bf does the same thing.
im so confused. confused

Are you talking about tobacco? I've never heard of that with weed...

Also, what you are talking about are cold sores (a form of herpes). Almost everyone has it. It CAN be transmitted if he is sharing a joint with someone else having an outbreak. But it is not caused by smoking weed in any way. He could just as easily get it sharing a water bottle.

Niko: You're lucky it ended there. My sister had a very similar story. She started with weed, then started doing harder drugs when weed stopped having as much of an effect. She spent the last 5 or so years of her life in rehab clinics until she finally killed herself. She was 26 and I was 11.

Akhakhu


lunashock

PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 6:03 pm


Although my views on weed probably differ from most in the thread, the bottom line comes down to your relationship and what was agreed on. Trust and communication are MUSTS in a relationship. If you agreed together, not just you, that this isn't something you want in the relationship, then you need to sit down and talk effectively with him. What I mean by effectively (and I post this often) is:
Listen without defending, speak without offending.

Meaning, don't throw accusations out there. For SOME, it's a habit and if he IS hiding it from you, this has to be dealt with delicately. Although I have to question, even if this gets solved, what other things are you going to question next? Fidelity? Love?

I think you should also educate yourself on marjiuana and drugs. Not just so you're not echoing ignorant rhetoric from your parents, but to also show you can handle the situation when it comes to you. Mothers are great, but (and I'm a mom myself), we aren't encyclopedias and will say things to protect our children from harm, even if it means making stuff up.

I've NEVER heard of someone chewing or sniffing weed (I think you mean snuffing). It's an ineffective way to get high as it is.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 6:29 pm


Kukushka

Niko: You're lucky it ended there. My sister had a very similar story. She started with weed, then started doing harder drugs when weed stopped having as much of an effect. She spent the last 5 or so years of her life in rehab clinics until she finally killed herself. She was 26 and I was 11.


I know. sweatdrop I used to write my friend and ask her to be careful, because I was scared she'd kill herself. She smartened up finally, and realized what the drug was doing to her, so the last time I heard from her she was clean.

I'm very sorry about your sister though. sad I don't know what I'd do if my friend killed herself by drugs.

Nikolita
Captain


[DC]

PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 10:52 pm


It really depends on the person who smokes weed. It is possible to stop smoking weed at any time. I used to smoke weed on a daily basis. I quit however, because I was getting worried about my lungs(I run track). It wasn't hard, because my friends who I smoked with, all understood. Some of them actually decided to quit with me. However, with it being a gateway drug, that's very true, but it also depends on the person and their morals. The only other drug besides Marijuana I have done are Shrooms. I've only done it a couple times, but like marijuana, it isn't addictive...it's just extremely dangerous while you're on the drug.

Anyways...marijuana is only addictive to people who learn to depend on it. I personally only did it because I found it extremely fun, and the town I live in is extremely boring. I'm not gonna lie, I miss it, but for the most part I had no withdrawl symptoms.

Ecstasy however, is one of the most dangerous drugs out there. I'm glad to hear your friend stopped taking it.

Anyways, chances are he's still doing it. It's very easy when you're doing it to just say that you're not doing it anymore. But if his friends are still calling him up and asking him to get high, chances are he's still doing it. It's hard to say no to your friends. Just talk to him and make sure you both see eye to eye, and that you trust each other.
PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 12:12 am


I meant no offense. It was just my personal experience with marijuana and "E", nothing more. 3nodding

Nikolita
Captain


rabid.pillow

PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 2:26 pm


well, you can't get disease from people just because they smoke weed.

i had a similar situation - i decided it wasn't worth it being with someone who was so unhappy that he needed weed to get away.

i felt so guilty i couldn't help him, and i felt guilty for breaking up with him, but i needed to do it. i was literally going nuts, because my parents had split up the week before he told me about his continued "habits."

yesh. it's hard...

there's a point you have to decide whether what he does harms you, and if you'll stand for it.
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