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 Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 2:37 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlSWJd0vdwEZeitgeist is bringing in the new world order on a silver platter. While it is true that Zeitgeist has helped awaken a lot of minds, it's goal is not as it seems. the first movie was saturated with theosophical thought, the idea that Christ came to earth many times over as different beings, all sharing the same message. Theosophy and their Maitreya is the NWO's one world religion. Next the movies implant a little thought into the back of everyone's mind who watches it. Depopulation. If only we had less people on earth we could live in the Venus project utopia. Problem is, people don't understand that they are included in the depopulation agenda. Now this movie sounds great on waking people up out of the matrix that is society, helping them understand how the world really works. but then, what is the solution they will present? most likely the new, new world order, a one world government and a global currency. The NWO is fantastic in theory. It will be accepted with open arms I'm sure. The problem is who will lead the NWO. We already know.. it's been prophesied to be a despot government with Lucifer at it's head. We the people need to govern ourselves and be free, not imprison ourselves further. If we want to create a one world system, WE need to do it. We can not give the power to the people who have planned to do this for decades. They do NOT have our best interest at heart. I only hope I am wrong. Thoughts?
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:57 am
interesting a new one.
I will say i loved the first, it really introduced me to a lot of stuff, but over many years of research i have debunked a lot on information from it, so now i don't see it being to valid of a video, granted its still good, but i'm not looking forward to watching this one.
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:23 pm
I heard about this new movie a while ago while doing some research into Zeitgeist and Theosophy, and I definitely agree with you. From what I've heard, practically everyone that leads Zeitgeist and makes those videos is either a Theosophist, a New Age leader, or a Freemason, and apparently there's a man who speaks at the beginning and end of one of the movies who the Theosophical Society was actually preparing to be Maitreya at one point (although he eventually refused).
Most of the information they present isn't even accurate, such as the first movie. There are several very well-made videos on the Internet disproving every claim Zeitgeist tries to make against Christianity, using both common sense and historical evidence. I think the reason why they made that part of the video in the first place is this: They know that Christians won't be able to accept their ideas for a New World Order because the Bible predicts what a one-world government will actually be like. Unfortunately, if they can convince people that Christianity is false and/or Jesus wasn't real, then there's not much of a reason for people to see anything wrong with Zeitgeist's plans.
This is what I find really shocking, though: I actually used to be a Luciferian, and at the time, I was very attracted to the concept of Zeitgeist and the Venus Project and all of that, and the idea of a one-world government in general, for no apparent reason other than I actually thought it could bring world peace. Now that I've learned about the New World Order and how connected Zeitgeist is to it, it seems to me way more than a coincidence that I would've been so drawn to the idea back then without even knowing all of the connections the movement had to Lucifer.
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 3:03 pm
I'm actually really eager to watch it, but there's no way in hell I'll pay for a movie ticket and help fund them lol. I want to see if my prediction is true. I hope people will be brave enough to go to the movie theater when it plays and hold NO NWO signs and ask people to research it.
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 6:57 pm
I didn't know they actually played them in movie theaters. o_O
I'm actually kind of curious about it as well. I haven't actually seen the entire first and second videos, just the relevant parts while doing research. I kind of want to watch them actually, just for analysis basically.
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Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 10:00 am
Not really looking forward to it. Zeitgeist 1 and Addendum were good. But alot of information in both movies HAS been debunked. And i think all that venus project stuff is absolute crap. But i will watch the movie... When it's on youtube ofcourse. Whats this stuff im hearing about it premiering in theatres?
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Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:06 pm
Do you even know what theosophy is about, enough to say why it's bad? And could anyone please tell me why, if a global internet is okay, global currency is not?
Or why the idea of a global consciousness is a bad thing? Isn't that a way of unmasking the veil of the physical, the separated, demiurge created world we live in today?
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Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:55 am
Is this that movie about Sun gods?
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Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:57 am
NorthEastFire I heard about this new movie a while ago while doing some research into Zeitgeist and Theosophy, and I definitely agree with you. From what I've heard, practically everyone that leads Zeitgeist and makes those videos is either a Theosophist, a New Age leader, or a Freemason, and apparently there's a man who speaks at the beginning and end of one of the movies who the Theosophical Society was actually preparing to be Maitreya at one point (although he eventually refused). Most of the information they present isn't even accurate, such as the first movie. There are several very well-made videos on the Internet disproving every claim Zeitgeist tries to make against Christianity, using both common sense and historical evidence. I think the reason why they made that part of the video in the first place is this: They know that Christians won't be able to accept their ideas for a New World Order because the Bible predicts what a one-world government will actually be like. Unfortunately, if they can convince people that Christianity is false and/or Jesus wasn't real, then there's not much of a reason for people to see anything wrong with Zeitgeist's plans. This is what I find really shocking, though: I actually used to be a Luciferian, and at the time, I was very attracted to the concept of Zeitgeist and the Venus Project and all of that, and the idea of a one-world government in general, for no apparent reason other than I actually thought it could bring world peace. Now that I've learned about the New World Order and how connected Zeitgeist is to it, it seems to me way more than a coincidence that I would've been so drawn to the idea back then without even knowing all of the connections the movement had to Lucifer.
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Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:59 pm
Naynram Ukir Do you even know what theosophy is about, enough to say why it's bad? And could anyone please tell me why, if a global internet is okay, global currency is not?
Or why the idea of a global consciousness is a bad thing? Isn't that a way of unmasking the veil of the physical, the separated, demiurge created world we live in today? Someone else can probably explain this in a better way than I can, but as far as I know, it's not necessarily the concept of a global currency or global Internet in itself that's such a bad thing; it's the fact that both are actually one step closer to the establishment of a one-world government, or the New World Order, and to the one-world system described in the Bible regarding the End Times. As for Theosophy, I actually studied somewhat into it and the New Age movement (a large portion of which derives directly from Theosophy) and believed in a lot of the concepts at one point. And it's not just the parallels between Maitreya and the Antichrist and such that lead a lot of us to make the statements we do about Theosophy. For example, if you look at history, Hitler actually formed a lot of his concepts about superior races and cleansing and such from the writings of Helena Blavatsky and other occult writings. Given a lot of the content involving race and such, among other things, contained within Theosophy, not to mention the concept of the destruction of everyone who "refuses to evolve" into the Age of Aquarius, it isn't difficult to imagine something very similar happening again in the future, especially considering how huge the New Age movement is today. As for the consciousness shift, it doesn't necessarily sound like a bad idea in theory, but the point is, claims such as that easily can be, and have been in the past, a lie. Several New Age leaders were claiming a little over a decade ago that 2000 was going to be some kind of great enlightenment, but that obviously didn't happen. Nowadays, the date has been changed to 2012; looking at their past failures to predict anything, it's very likely that the only thing that's going to result on December 21st is some level of chaos when everyone's panicking about the end of the world. Also, a lot of people also believe that in that consciousness shift, humans are basically going to be elevated to the level of godhood. However, common sense is that when people believe that they are actually God and therefore are able to basically run around doing whatever they want, the consequences of that can be disastrous.
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Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 1:02 pm
Hesperus Lucifera Is this that movie about Sun gods? It's this: http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/joomla/index.php?Itemid=50and this: http://www.thevenusproject.com/I think you might be thinking of the first of the movies produced by Zeitgeist? It's the one that claims that Christianity evolved from pagan religions and such, and makes some references to sun gods. (One of the claims that they actually make trying to prove that Christianity is linked to sun worship is that the English words "sun" and "son" sound the same. sweatdrop That gives you a pretty good clue as to how accurate Zeitgeist's information actually is. xd )
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Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:52 pm
The "Hitler was inspired by Theosophy" argument doesn't hold any more weight than "The Inquisition was inspired by Christianity."
It should be obvious that anyone can take a belief system and run wild with it, using it as inspiration and justification for atrocity.
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 2:32 pm
Obscurus The "Hitler was inspired by Theosophy" argument doesn't hold any more weight than "The Inquisition was inspired by Christianity." It should be obvious that anyone can take a belief system and run wild with it, using it as inspiration and justification for atrocity. Except many of the actual leaders of Theosophy at the time actually approved of what Hitler was doing, rather than viewing him as having taken the belief system out of context or anything of the sort. Some people at the time actually believed that Hitler was Maitreya. Alice Bailey herself actually stated that through "passing through the fires of purification," the Jews might be considered suitable for accepting Maitreya in 1949, an obvious reference to the Holocaust.
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:56 pm
NorthEastFire Obscurus The "Hitler was inspired by Theosophy" argument doesn't hold any more weight than "The Inquisition was inspired by Christianity." It should be obvious that anyone can take a belief system and run wild with it, using it as inspiration and justification for atrocity. Except many of the actual leaders of Theosophy at the time actually approved of what Hitler was doing, rather than viewing him as having taken the belief system out of context or anything of the sort. Some people at the time actually believed that Hitler was Maitreya. Alice Bailey herself actually stated that through "passing through the fires of purification," the Jews might be considered suitable for accepting Maitreya in 1949, an obvious reference to the Holocaust. Pope. Crusades. Using your logic, I could make the argument that Wicca encourages adultery just because the founders were adulterers.
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 8:14 pm
I think Zeitgiest is a bunch of bullshit to be honest
"Damn my blood... I scorn to do anyone a mischief, when it is not for my advantage."
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