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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 2:43 pm


One of our guildies made a thread some time ago asking this question:
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It seems like every book I pick up is filled with misinformation [...]. They misuse names and things like that. And even the subject matter I don't know how much I agree with anymore. [...] I don't really feel comfortable taking other cultures deities and parading them off like my own, you know? If a book has so much wrong with it, how can I take anything as good true information? And how do you tell what's right and what's not?


In short: How does one (especially someone new to witchcraft) tell a good book from a bad one?

To answer that question we have compiled this helpful list of ways to tell:


How to Tell a Good Book from a Bad One:


1.) The Author's Name: If the author feels the need to write under their craft name, then I see no reason to take them seriously. Silver Ravenwolf is a prime example, anyone that sounds like that, Willow Peacedrinker or Rainbow Awesomepants or Vampyre McBadass are all examples of what a bad book's author sounds like. Joe Normalname and Susan Straightforward are good authors, by this simplified rule of thumb.

2.) Sometimes you CAN Judge a Book by Its Cover: If a book has art that would look appropriate on a horror novel or the DaVinci's Code 2: Pagan Boogaloo, then odds are its meant to make money, and nothing more. Books with very picturesque and scenic art aren't bad. The Last Sin Eater has some sunlight filtering through some trees, that kind of thing. The best ones usually have straightforward covers. On The Crystal Bible, there are pictures of stones just scattered about. Simple (and boring) usually tends to be the key (just remember that this is not always the case).

3.) Look At their Bibliographies: Look at the bibliographies in the back of the books to see where the author got their information. If the book's sources are reliable ones then chances are the book will be reliable. If you don't know or recognize any of the titles of authors listed in the bibliography then look at then general number of sources. Usually, the more sources an author takes their information from, the more likely that information will be reliable. However, that does not mean that the author wouldn't twist the information from their sources to support their own slanted opinions and views. Everyone is guilty of bias, whether we choose to admit it or not.

4.) Research the Author: Another really good thing to do, is actually research the author a bit. Do they actually have the credentials needed to be considered experts on the subject, if it says "self-taught" and the book is about something that you know requires some sort of certification, initiation, etc... then odds are they probably aren't the best person to be learning about it from. Being self-taught in general isn't always a bad thing (especially they aren't claiming to be a part of any specific tradition or path that has specific requirements), but it's still a good idea to look into what sort of experience they have, that makes them knowledgeable enough to teach it to others.

5. Agreeing With You =/= Good Book: Just because a books agrees with what you already believe and/or tells you what you want to hear does not make it a good book. Likewise, a book that implies that your previous ideas are wrong does not mean that it is a 'bad book'. As we all know, there is a great deal of misinformation out there about both witchcraft and paganism and chances are when your were first starting out you didn't automatically find the "right sort" of book right away. If you find that a book disagrees with what you've previously read/been taught, go back over suggestions one through four and ask yourself, "Does this author seem credible?" "Does this book look legitimate?" "Where is this book getting its information from? Is that a reliable source?"
PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 5:03 pm


I don't know, Rainbow McAwesomepants sounds pretty legit to me.

Seriously though, that was the reason I didn't have any interest in reading anything by Silver Ravenwolf, long before I heard how bad she was. I couldn't take an author seriously if they were going to call themselves such a 'super-speshul' glitterpoo name. Giving yourself an interesting pen name is one thing, but calling yourself something like that, and then expecting to be considered a serious and legitimate author is just... no.
(Granted I bought a witchcraft reference book by someone named Selene Silverwind, but I don't think I could honestly buy a book with anyone with a name more sparkly than that.)

Anyway, these are really good tips for book buying, all-around. Thank you for posting this.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 5:26 pm


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Anyway, these are really good tips for book buying, all-around. Thank you for posting this.
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Thank yourself and your fellow guildies. wink You guys posted these in the other thread, I just revised them a little and re-posted them in an easier to read and understand format.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 5:34 pm


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I was just looking at the list and decided that four is not a very aesthetically pleasing number. Can anyone think of one to make it five?

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 9:07 pm


i dont know how i would word it, but i feel this helfpuf reminder is in order. just because it doesnt tell you that you are correct and the most awesome witch in the world DOESNT mean its a bad bood.

to rephrase, it might still be good and worth your read even if it says you are wrong.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 9:16 pm


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i dont know how i would word it, but i feel this helfpuf reminder is in order. just because it doesnt tell you that you are correct and the most awesome witch in the world DOESNT mean its a bad bood.

to rephrase, it might still be good and worth your read even if it says you are wrong.
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I agree that this is a good thing to teach people. But I can't think of a way to phrase it without making sound patronizing.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:26 am


Even if a book tells you what you think you know is wrong, it still might be worth reading it because there might be some good information for you in that book

Or the information in the book might be very useful if what you know differs from what it says?

Something along those lines... I'm usually good with words... not so much lately. XD
PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:35 am


How about this:

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5. Agreeing With You =/= Good Book: Just because a books agrees with what you already believe and/or tells you what you want to hear does not make it a good book. Likewise, a book that implies that your previous ideas are wrong does not mean that it is a 'bad book'. As we all know, there is a great deal of misinformation out there about both witchcraft and paganism and chances are when your were first starting out you didn't automatically find the "right sort" of book right away. If you find that a book disagrees with what you've previously read/been taught, go back over suggestions one through four and ask yourself, "Does this author seem credible?" "Does this book look legitimate?" "Where is this book getting its information from? Is that a reliable source?"

What do you guys think of something like that?

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:42 am


Sounds good.
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PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2011 10:01 pm


Wow! This is one of the key elements I've been looking for! Thanks for sharing this list!!
Now . . . .my library seems to be scarce on these sorts of books >.>
I also don't want to blindly buy books off the internet.
Does anyone know if these books can be found in like a "Boreders / Barens 'n Noble" or places like that?
Sorry, I usually use the internet as my primary source of info but on a subject like witchcraft you come up with INSTANT fakes *just add 'K'* LOL!
(btw Yes I know some ppl use the 'K' for clarification but what credible authors really use it? I ask you? >.> feel free to disprove me though. I am open for that!)
PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 12:00 pm


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(btw Yes I know some ppl use the 'K' for clarification but what credible authors really use it? I ask you? >.> feel free to disprove me though. I am open for that!)

Alister Crowley uses the K. But that is because K has a specific meaning within his Thelema tradition. When I see someone in the forums using the K I usually ask them if they are a Thelemite before assuming they are fluffy.

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PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 12:37 pm


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(btw Yes I know some ppl use the 'K' for clarification but what credible authors really use it? I ask you? >.> feel free to disprove me though. I am open for that!)

Alister Crowley uses the K. But that is because K has a specific meaning within his Thelema tradition. When I see someone in the forums using the K I usually ask them if they are a Thelemite before assuming they are fluffy.

Oh yeah . . .wasn't there also a numeric meaning to it to? like by adding the K it makes the word 6 digits and K is the 11th number?
or something along those lines?
But you have to admit it is EXTREMELY fluffy to see someone spell it as Majick right? xd
PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 6:35 pm


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(btw Yes I know some ppl use the 'K' for clarification but what credible authors really use it? I ask you? >.> feel free to disprove me though. I am open for that!)

Alister Crowley uses the K. But that is because K has a specific meaning within his Thelema tradition. When I see someone in the forums using the K I usually ask them if they are a Thelemite before assuming they are fluffy.

Oh yeah . . .wasn't there also a numeric meaning to it to? like by adding the K it makes the word 6 digits and K is the 11th number?
or something along those lines?
But you have to admit it is EXTREMELY fluffy to see someone spell it as Majick right? xd


You are totally right.

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