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 Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 7:03 am
So theres this saying, that "if you think you're a failure and that you are going to fail at the beginning then you will fail in the end"
or something like that but have you ever thought like that and actually failed?
theres also ones like If you want something bad enough, visualize it and go for it and so on so forth..
I m 50/50 I have no idea but Im open minded, I ve usually succeed through fear then ever have much confidence I always thought of the what if's or the punishments that would await if I failed and when I failed I let that fear get the best of me..
what Im wondering is that do emotions/feelings and thought have such a great effect on how things work or take place around us?
what do you think?
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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 7:05 am
Hmm . . . I've heard of that, a lot, but not really sure of that.
Sometimes I think negatively yet the effect is positive still.
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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 7:14 am
If you think you're going to fail and don't even bother trying at something, then of course you're going to fail.
When you try despite thinking you're going to fail, chances are, you probably aren't going to fail.
And yes, emotions do have a great impact on our actions and their results. A defeatist attitude will undoubtedly cause one to stop trying eventually. A skeptical, but one that still has a strain of hope for a better future will usually lead to good things or a better future.
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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 2:09 pm
It's rubbish. I was totally assured to myself that I was gonna fial Advanced Higher Chemistry and I passed with a B (the best grade in my... very small class), So it's rubbish
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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 2:56 pm
Are you talking about a self-fulfilling prophecy?
The mindset of someone really can effect an outcome, but the expected outcome can't be solely determined by the mindset.
It is not coincidence. It is an agglomeration of multiple factors.
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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:06 pm
What M!dori said.
It's a self-fulfilling prophecy and it's not rubbish. It's a psychological thing.
Canni passed her chemistry class even though she thought she was going to fail. That's great. But she isn't everyone.
If a person starts taking a class that they're forced to take, and they go into thinking they're going to fail. . . . in turn, they might not study as hard (or at all, writing it off as "why bother, I'm never going to get the material"). They won't pay attention in class because, hey, what's the point? Thinking you're going to fail and acting like you're going to fail. . . can result in you actually failing.
In social psychology, for example, you have a run in with the police officer. You've heard that this police officer is a jerk. You think he's going to haul your a** to jail. So as he approaches you, you immediately put up your guard and start antagonizing him. You sneer and put a sarcastic inflection on the word "officer" to see what he'll do (hypothesis testing) He gets antsy and snaps back and you smirk, thinking this is proof that he IS a jerk just like your friend says (confirmation bias - favoring information that supports your bias). You make another jerky problem and. . . blamo, you're in jail. If you hadn't given him an attitude, you probably wouldn't be behind bars, making it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:11 pm
Tasn Zheng If you think you're going to fail and don't even bother trying at something, then of course you're going to fail. When you try despite thinking you're going to fail, chances are, you probably aren't going to fail. This makes sense from a logical standpoint, but that's because it's entirely black and white, you either try or don't try. However, from my personal experience, the core topic definitely is rubbish. You can be on top of the world and expect to get your test back with a 100, obviously this does not magically make the test a 100 and you fail.
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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:43 pm
CH0Z0 Tasn Zheng If you think you're going to fail and don't even bother trying at something, then of course you're going to fail. When you try despite thinking you're going to fail, chances are, you probably aren't going to fail. This makes sense from a logical standpoint, but that's because it's entirely black and white, you either try or don't try. However, from my personal experience, the core topic definitely is rubbish. You can be on top of the world and expect to get your test back with a 100, obviously this does not magically make the test a 100 and you fail. Uh, the core topic isn't about magic or wishing/hoping hard enough. :/
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:53 am
@Tasn- yeah thats kind of what I was going on
but now Im just curious about confidence
@Peo -hmmm did you study alot for it?
@M!dori- slightly, mainly I m just curious on how certain state of minds,track of minds/feelings.... can play a major role in how we perform or do
@Cleo- I was also thinking that sometimes people think they are going to fail and they are motivated to try harder where as more confident people wont try as much and may end up failing in the end..
Your last point was really interesting, I ve seen that happen alot, also not really on point but apparently its similar with animals(our frame of mind before a aproaching an animal)
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:56 am
Simple form: You are what you think.
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 12:22 pm
CleoSombra CH0Z0 Tasn Zheng If you think you're going to fail and don't even bother trying at something, then of course you're going to fail. When you try despite thinking you're going to fail, chances are, you probably aren't going to fail. This makes sense from a logical standpoint, but that's because it's entirely black and white, you either try or don't try. However, from my personal experience, the core topic definitely is rubbish. You can be on top of the world and expect to get your test back with a 100, obviously this does not magically make the test a 100 and you fail. Uh, the core topic isn't about magic or wishing/hoping hard enough. :/ What I mean is, if you try on a test you think you're going to fail and a test you think you're going to pass, you'll do about the same, as your knowledge of the material is constant. If you think you did really well and are very confident, this will not change the fact you didn't know much on the subject and vice versa. That's how it is for me.
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