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The Curse

PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:33 am
To be eligible to register for voting you need to make five posts withing a month of calling the election. They must be political. So I'm going to make five questions here. Answer each one IN A DIFFERENT POST. You will then qualify. This makes it easier for you to register. PRAISE ME FOR I AM YOUR CAPITALIST MASTER!

Feel free to debate with answers.

1.) Would you have backed Trotsky or Stalin in the great Soviet power struggle and why?

2.) How do you deal with surviving Bourgoisie after the revolution has been won, kill?, enslave?, allow to live on as a lower class? Something else? The first three solutions were all used in North Korea.

3.) You discover that one of the leaders of the revolution has a sexual partner and lover who is an unabashed bourgoisie supporting capitalist! You...

4.) Which Communist regime/revolution/party has been the biggest success story so far?

5.) Which esteemed Marxist or Communist author is/was best equipped to match wits with capitalists and why?

GOGOGO  
PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 9:04 am
how about the king eh? I don't see many other cappies that post much around here. Here is the first answer, which is quite short. I apologize for that.

None of them, if I could do what I want. I don't agree with them. But seeing that I have to choose one then I'll go for the obvious one, Trotsky. Reasons being that he did a very good job at leading and organizing the red army, also because of some admiration for him, which also explains the hating Stalin. I believe that Stalin did manage to do it an awful lot better in the struggle for power. Stalin did manage to get rid of all opposition after all.  

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 9:26 am
2. I don't believe that they should be killed. Why kill them? It would only give other countries or people that don't agree with you more reasons to attack you and try and bring you down. That is the reason Cuba and China are so hated, and that people look so badly at the USSR. Enslaving would only have the same effect, it is just the first option, just more long-termed. Enslaving would have some good effects on the economy though, free labour is better than giving something in exchange of work. Killing or enslaving them is wrong, everyone is equal, it doesn't matter what they believe in or if they are completely opposite to you. I would chose the third one, I would allow them to live on. As a lower class or as everybody else. While doing that I would also try and make them reject their ideas or simply make them accept the new regime, and swear not to try and overthrow it. If that failed though I would go on with option 4: exile. Abandon them in some island so they can't do any harm.  
PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 9:36 am
3.Oh the irony. What the leader of the revolution does isn't of my interest. If he/she has a fascist, capitalist, anarchist (etc) lover the leader of the revolution is free to have one. What that person believes in doesn't include me, and killing or making the revolution leader 'fall' would just be plain wrong. I would put into action my answer to question 2 if possible. I would make the lover wither accept the new regime and live quietly for the rest of his/her life. If that failed then exile. Leave the lover in some island far away so no harm is done if he/she decides to try to destroy the revolution and do harm. Either way who the revolution leader gets involved with isn't of my interest.  

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 9:42 am
4. None of the existing ones has managed to fulfill what it wanted to achieve. Every single one has failed to do so, and I don't like how they ended up being. So I believe that none have been truly successful. I don't need to link anything, I guess, you all know what I mean. Now for the most successfull revolution I would go for the Russian revolution or Cuba's one. The Russian revolution for being relatively "quick" and for being successful, even though it ended up badly a few years later with Stalin in power. Cuba's one because of managing to do one with guerrilla warfare and without a party.  
PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 9:47 am
(sorry for it being so short)
5. My answer for this one would be Marx, because of how powerful his works were, convincing so many people and making so many things happen, from civil wars to failed revolutions. Reason why I put him as an answer. But I believe that anyone could really match wits against capitalists if that person knows well the theory and how to debate well. Not just the people that became famous for what they wrote  

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 9:48 am
Done answering, happy now, Curse?  
PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 9:51 am
Dark Aerlinniel
Done answering, happy now, Curse?


Am I? I Don't know. Maybe I am?  

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:38 pm
[BUMP]
Short answers:
1.) Would you have backed Trotsky or Stalin in the great Soviet power struggle and why?
lol Trotsky, coz of the disastrous and anti-Marxist theories of S1C and 'two stage revolution'.

2.) How do you deal with surviving Bourgeoisie after the revolution has been won, kill?, enslave?, allow to live on as a lower class? Something else? The first three solutions were all used in North Korea.
It depends.

3.) You discover that one of the leaders of the revolution has a sexual partner and lover who is an unabashed bourgoisie supporting capitalist! You...
Put simply, I highly doubt it would happen. Other than that, if it doesn't affect their politics, then it is their business. If it does affect their politics, then they will be dropped in favour of someone else, regardless of if the faulty line was a result of being whipped, reading Kant, or turning fascist.

4.) Which Communist regime/revolution/party has been the biggest success story so far?
The Bolshevik Party, until 1924.

5.) Which esteemed Marxist or Communist author is/was best equipped to match wits with capitalists and why?
Marx. ******** was a ******** GENIUS.



Also, Aer, it's ok, they are enough to get you registered.  
PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 4:58 pm
stealing grac's format muahahaha
Short answers:
1.) Would you have backed Trotsky or Stalin in the great Soviet power struggle and why?
Trotsky. Stalin was a basterd who ruined communism.

2.) How do you deal with surviving Bourgeoisie after the revolution has been won, kill?, enslave?, allow to live on as a lower class? Something else? The first three solutions were all used in North Korea.
Allow them to continue to live in the country, but not allow them to gain control.

3.) You discover that one of the leaders of the revolution has a sexual partner and lover who is an unabashed bourgoisie supporting capitalist! You...
Is that person drop dead sexy?

4.) Which Communist regime/revolution/party has been the biggest success story so far?
None of them.

5.) Which esteemed Marxist or Communist author is/was best equipped to match wits with capitalists and why?
Marx or Rosa Luxemburg. Marx was a genius, and I just like Luxemburg...  

Naiax Sidorenka


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:59 pm
Naiax Sidorenko


Spread it out over five posts mad  
PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:20 am
The Curse
Naiax Sidorenko


Spread it out over five posts mad


your excellent plan has been torn apart, curse  

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 4:14 pm
Dark Aerlinniel
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Naiax Sidorenko


Spread it out over five posts mad


your excellent plan has been torn apart, curse

Only by Naiax, and do people really care what his vote is, anyway? =P  
PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 11:19 pm
The Curse
Naiax Sidorenko


Spread it out over five posts mad

Eat my poop curse.  

Naiax Sidorenka


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 11:31 pm
Naiax Sidorenko
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Naiax Sidorenko


Spread it out over five posts mad

Eat my poop curse.


Well YOU'RE the one who can't vote not ME.  
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