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 Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:30 pm
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:25 am
Minor bumpage. I'm looking for any ideas that I could take advantage of to amplify the deck build. So basically:
-Anything that would benefit from Anti-RFG
-EARTH Attribute support
-Cards that would increase fluidity of the deck.
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:54 am
Just a question: Why no Scrap Twin Dragon?
Main Deck
-1 Dark Bribe
-1 Imperial Iron Wall (Move to Side)
+2 Chain Whirlwind
Side Deck
-2 Shiny Black "C"
+1 Imperial Iron Wall (From Main)
+1 Sirocco
Just suggestions. Everything is speculation nowadays with playing style and all
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:59 am
they're all earty attribute right? then why not add a genex tuner and ally genex triforce to the extra deck?
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 12:28 pm
Aka_Saiyaku Just a question: Why no Scrap Twin Dragon? Main Deck -1 Dark Bribe -1 Imperial Iron Wall (Move to Side) +2 Chain Whirlwind Side Deck -2 Shiny Black "C" +1 Imperial Iron Wall (From Main) +1 Sirocco Just suggestions. Everything is speculation nowadays with playing style and all Scrap Twin is in Starstrike Blast. Trust me, I'd be an idiot to not include it if I included Starstrike Blast into my figuring. As for your suggestions, I can't believe I didn't figure in Chain Whirlwind. I'm an idiot. However, I'd rather keep the Bribes at 3 because they're the only legitimate negation in the deck. Finally... why do I want a Sirocco at 1 when I can just have Cyber Dragon for greater effectiveness? I don't see the point, but if you can enlighten me to the reasoning, I'd appreciate it. @Axean: Genex Ally Triforce hasn't been released yet and probably won't be until at LEAST Hidden Arsenal 3. -- EDIT: Decided to go like this: Main Deck: -1 Gorz the Emissary of Darkness (If Imperial Iron Wall is in play, I'd never be able to summon Gorz effectively.) -1 Imperial Iron Wall +2 Chain Whirlwind (Fantastic card that Aka_Saiyaku showed to me.) Side Deck: -2 Shiny Black "C" +1 Cyber Dragon (A bit better than Scirocco, in my personal opinion.) +1 Imperial Iron Wall (To amplify the Quillbolt Loop once implemented.)
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 12:44 pm
Hakuro de Killer Scrap Twin is in Starstrike Blast. Trust me, I'd be an idiot to not include it if I included Starstrike Blast into my figuring. As for your suggestions, I can't believe I didn't figure in Chain Whirlwind. I'm an idiot. However, I'd rather keep the Bribes at 3 because they're the only legitimate negation in the deck. Finally... why do I want a Sirocco at 1 when I can just have Cyber Dragon for greater effectiveness? I don't see the point, but if you can enlighten me to the reasoning, I'd appreciate it. @Axean: Genex Ally Triforce hasn't been released yet and probably won't be until at LEAST Hidden Arsenal 3. Sorry. Didn't realize Twin was in Starstrike. As for Sirocco, it's sided as defense against Blackwings since they're a highly played deck in the meta. Like I said: It's up in the air due to play style. Sirocco is summoned like Cydra but he can boost his own attack by all your opponent's swarmed BWings. It's up to you.
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 1:03 pm
Aka_Saiyaku Hakuro de Killer Scrap Twin is in Starstrike Blast. Trust me, I'd be an idiot to not include it if I included Starstrike Blast into my figuring. As for your suggestions, I can't believe I didn't figure in Chain Whirlwind. I'm an idiot. However, I'd rather keep the Bribes at 3 because they're the only legitimate negation in the deck. Finally... why do I want a Sirocco at 1 when I can just have Cyber Dragon for greater effectiveness? I don't see the point, but if you can enlighten me to the reasoning, I'd appreciate it. @Axean: Genex Ally Triforce hasn't been released yet and probably won't be until at LEAST Hidden Arsenal 3. Sorry. Didn't realize Twin was in Starstrike. As for Sirocco, it's sided as defense against Blackwings since they're a highly played deck in the meta. Like I said: It's up in the air due to play style. Sirocco is summoned like Cydra but he can boost his own attack by all your opponent's swarmed BWings. It's up to you. That would be a great strategy if Sirocco was summoned exactly like Cyber Dragon. However, whereas Cyber Dragon is a Special Summon, Sirocco is a Normal Summon. Therefore, it wouldn't work all that well. Also, I was thinking of including Neo-Spacian Grand Mole in the deck somewhere.
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 1:15 pm
Hakuro de Killer That would be a great strategy if Sirocco was summoned exactly like Cyber Dragon. However, whereas Cyber Dragon is a Special Summon, Sirocco is a Normal Summon. Therefore, it wouldn't work all that well. Also, I was thinking of including Neo-Spacian Grand Mole in the deck somewhere. Understood. As far as Grandmole goes, it works in with the earth theme at least. As far as I know, it'd be the only bouncer in the deck until you get Scrap Twin. It's really a hard decision. Also, Kaiser Colloseum comes to mind. I dunno why.
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 1:46 pm
Aka_Saiyaku Hakuro de Killer That would be a great strategy if Sirocco was summoned exactly like Cyber Dragon. However, whereas Cyber Dragon is a Special Summon, Sirocco is a Normal Summon. Therefore, it wouldn't work all that well. Also, I was thinking of including Neo-Spacian Grand Mole in the deck somewhere. Understood. As far as Grandmole goes, it works in with the earth theme at least. As far as I know, it'd be the only bouncer in the deck until you get Scrap Twin. It's really a hard decision. Also, Kaiser Colloseum comes to mind. I dunno why. I decided to -3 Giant Rat for +1 Grand Mole and +2 Palomuro so that I could take advantage of the All-Earth theme and go for Naturia Beast (which I -2'd Scrap Archfiend for). But definitely gonna replace Palomuro for 2x Attack Gainer (Starstrike Blast) or find another card to take out (probably Grand Mole) for a 3x Naturia Cherry, accomplishing similar ideals.
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:05 pm
Hakuro de Killer Aka_Saiyaku Hakuro de Killer That would be a great strategy if Sirocco was summoned exactly like Cyber Dragon. However, whereas Cyber Dragon is a Special Summon, Sirocco is a Normal Summon. Therefore, it wouldn't work all that well. Also, I was thinking of including Neo-Spacian Grand Mole in the deck somewhere. Understood. As far as Grandmole goes, it works in with the earth theme at least. As far as I know, it'd be the only bouncer in the deck until you get Scrap Twin. It's really a hard decision. Also, Kaiser Colloseum comes to mind. I dunno why. I decided to -3 Giant Rat for +1 Grand Mole and +2 Palomuro so that I could take advantage of the All-Earth theme and go for Naturia Beast (which I -2'd Scrap Archfiend for). But definitely gonna replace Palomuro for 2x Attack Gainer (Starstrike Blast) or find another card to take out (probably Grand Mole) for a 3x Naturia Cherry, accomplishing similar ideals. Good idea. I just wonder about how that will effect the speed of the deck. Without what might be your biggest searcher, I'm curious as to how it will stand up. Not to mention, that's a LOT of tuners.
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:52 pm
Aka_Saiyaku Hakuro de Killer Aka_Saiyaku Hakuro de Killer That would be a great strategy if Sirocco was summoned exactly like Cyber Dragon. However, whereas Cyber Dragon is a Special Summon, Sirocco is a Normal Summon. Therefore, it wouldn't work all that well. Also, I was thinking of including Neo-Spacian Grand Mole in the deck somewhere. Understood. As far as Grandmole goes, it works in with the earth theme at least. As far as I know, it'd be the only bouncer in the deck until you get Scrap Twin. It's really a hard decision. Also, Kaiser Colloseum comes to mind. I dunno why. I decided to -3 Giant Rat for +1 Grand Mole and +2 Palomuro so that I could take advantage of the All-Earth theme and go for Naturia Beast (which I -2'd Scrap Archfiend for). But definitely gonna replace Palomuro for 2x Attack Gainer (Starstrike Blast) or find another card to take out (probably Grand Mole) for a 3x Naturia Cherry, accomplishing similar ideals. Good idea. I just wonder about how that will effect the speed of the deck. Without what might be your biggest searcher, I'm curious as to how it will stand up. Not to mention, that's a LOT of tuners. Only 6 in a deck of 19 monsters. I think it's a decent number considering. But I think Naturia Beast is worth taking a minor hit to searchers, especially since I don't want my Scraps to hit the field in ATK position. EDIT: I decided to reconsider adding in the Palomuro and roll with the 3 Giant Rats as planned. I forgot that the only Level 4s in the deck are the only cards that cannot tune as I thought. Chimera has to synchro for a Scrap synchro, with other Scrap as synchro material, which makes running 3 of it at this juncture a bad idea... Jesus, I didn't realize how screwed over Scraps are until Starstrike Blast.
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:15 pm
Hakuro de Killer Only 6 in a deck of 19 monsters. I think it's a decent number considering. But I think Naturia Beast is worth taking a minor hit to searchers, especially since I don't want my Scraps to hit the field in ATK position. EDIT: I decided to reconsider adding in the Palomuro and roll with the 3 Giant Rats as planned. I forgot that the only Level 4s in the deck are the only cards that cannot tune as I thought. Chimera has to synchro for a Scrap synchro, with other Scrap as synchro material, which makes running 3 of it at this juncture a bad idea... Jesus, I didn't realize how screwed over Scraps are until Starstrike Blast. I have no problem of 6 tuners out of 19. I was just noting it as a lot. I have 5 in my infernity deck, and only 2-3 in my GBeast Deck,so I mean it doesn't really bother me. It's all about decksize/type. And as far as them being screwed til Starstrike Blast, it's not necessarily true. It just depends on what you wanna put in, Now, you can keep the Palomuro in and tune with your Giant Rat for Naturia Beast. It just depends on if it outweighs what you want to take out. With 3 Giant Rat, it's safe to take out Sangan since all your guys are Earth anyway. And unless I'm mistaken, lots of the scraps revolve around reviving from the grave anyway, so you may be able to replace PoA with Foolish Burial, in case you want to put a scrap in the grave or Plaguespreader, or a Palomuro. I just don't know where you'd make room for the other 2 Palomuro.
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:27 pm
Well Palomuro doesn't work in the deck like I thought it was because Level 1 tuners of any kind won't work. Scrap Beast is a tuner and Scrap Chimera is riddled with restrictions. Therefore, I looked on YVD for a Level 1 EARTH Non-tuner that'd work, then an epiphany came to me: http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/MojaA Level 1 EARTH non-tuner that can bring back Giant Rat, Scrap Beast, or Scrap Chimera the instant it gets destroyed. Then I can tune Beast and Moja for Naturia Beast and everyone's happy. I'll edit my original post with the build reflecting this, give or take a change or two.
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:37 pm
Hakuro de Killer Well Palomuro doesn't work in the deck like I thought it was because Level 1 tuners of any kind won't work. Scrap Beast is a tuner and Scrap Chimera is riddled with restrictions. Therefore, I looked on YVD for a Level 1 EARTH Non-tuner that'd work, then an epiphany came to me: http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/MojaA Level 1 EARTH non-tuner that can bring back Giant Rat, Scrap Beast, or Scrap Chimera the instant it gets destroyed. Then I can tune Beast and Moja for Naturia Beast and everyone's happy. I'll edit my original post with the build reflecting this, give or take a change or two. Hahaha!! Wooow I can't believe I forgot him. I pulled himm out of the Raging Battle promos when they released the Duelist pack Yusei along with Iron Core and BW Shura. Excellent choice. It's definitely a worthwhile addition and your deck is that much stronger. On a personal note, this has to be one of the most enjoyable conversations I've had in this guild with anyone other than a crew member. Everyone else just act like idiots and get ignorant after the first post of any kind of advice.
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:42 pm
Aka_Saiyaku Hakuro de Killer Well Palomuro doesn't work in the deck like I thought it was because Level 1 tuners of any kind won't work. Scrap Beast is a tuner and Scrap Chimera is riddled with restrictions. Therefore, I looked on YVD for a Level 1 EARTH Non-tuner that'd work, then an epiphany came to me: http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/MojaA Level 1 EARTH non-tuner that can bring back Giant Rat, Scrap Beast, or Scrap Chimera the instant it gets destroyed. Then I can tune Beast and Moja for Naturia Beast and everyone's happy. I'll edit my original post with the build reflecting this, give or take a change or two. Hahaha!! Wooow I can't believe I forgot him. I pulled himm out of the Raging Battle promos when they released the Duelist pack Yusei along with Iron Core and BW Shura. Excellent choice. It's definitely a worthwhile addition and your deck is that much stronger. On a personal note, this has to be one of the most enjoyable conversations I've had in this guild with anyone other than a crew member. Everyone else just act like idiots and get ignorant after the first post of any kind of advice. Well I do try to be polite to the guildies who AREN'T satirical douchebags, so thank you very much. You were also a lot of help with my process, so I appreciate talking to you as well.
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