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 Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:59 pm
In the past I've taught various people the different things I know - tarot, Wicca, energy working, for the most part, but I know about other things too - but I hadn't done so for quite a while until now. I recently started teaching someone whom I thought would be a promising student but yet turned out to refuse to study for tests and so we've gotten nowhere. Because of this I've gotten in the spirit of teaching again and would like to take on students. I will most likely be giving you assignments to do on your own and every so often a test to make sure you remember what I've taught you so that we can move on. If you would like to learn from me, please fill out this form and PM it to me or post it here (PMs will probably be responded to quicker).
Note: I may not take on every person that asks as a student, so you may be turned down.
Name you would like to go by:
What you would like to be taught: (tarot, Wicca, energy working, or something else)
Past experience with this field:
How often you're available online:
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 4:30 pm
You may want to take a look in the Academy subforum. It will give you all the details on setting up a class thread. __________ Out of curiosity, what exactly would you be teaching, and what is your experience/background - that would qualify to teach it to others?
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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 12:28 am
This pickled vegetable...What qualifies you to teach other?
Tarot cards are relatively easy and don't really require a teacher to learn.
Wicca can only be taught within a lineaged coven. Are you a Wiccan HP/HPS? What is your age, tradition and lineage? Why would you teach Wicca to someone over the internet that may or may not be a proper-person?
"Energy Work" is an ambiguous term that can mean any number of things. What type of energy work do you claim to teach? ... could kick your a** !!
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 12:21 pm
Renkon Root This pickled vegetable...What qualifies you to teach other?
Tarot cards are relatively easy and don't really require a teacher to learn.
Wicca can only be taught within a lineaged coven. Are you a Wiccan HP/HPS? What is your age, tradition and lineage? Why would you teach Wicca to someone over the internet that may or may not be a proper-person?
"Energy Work" is an ambiguous term that can mean any number of things. What type of energy work do you claim to teach? ... could kick your a** !! I'm not sure what kind of answer you're looking for as to what qualifies me to teach others. The reason I offer to teach people how to read the cards isn't just the mechanics, but ways to connect to the cards better and different spreads to use. While I respect your opinion (and that of many others) that a requirement of Wicca is to be initiated into a coven, I myself am a solitary Wiccan, practicing solitary witchcraft. I am not part of a coven, but I do consider myself a Wiccan. This is a legitimate thing, and even if you don't agree with it and I ask that you respect that though you may not consider me a Wiccan, many people do, and please allow me to continue to seek to teach others what I know. The energy working that I am talking about teaching is learning how to control your energy and doing different things with it such as shielding or making psi balls. I hope this answers all of your questions and that if you have any more you'll ask them.
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 12:29 pm
QuirkQueen While I respect your opinion (and that of many others) that a requirement of Wicca is to be initiated into a coven, I myself am a solitary Wiccan, practicing solitary witchcraft. I am not part of a coven, but I do consider myself a Wiccan. This is a legitimate thing, and even if you don't agree with it and I ask that you respect that though you may not consider me a Wiccan, many people do, and please allow me to continue to seek to teach others what I know. The thing is, I cannot in good conscience let you continue to teach "Wicca" because you are only furthering the spread of misinformation.
Wicca is a fertility cult that is right practice over right belief, that means you must practice the religion as it is meant to be practiced to be a part of it and Wiccans practice in a coven. It is near impossible to preform the rites and rituals in Wicca without a coven so the idea of a "solitary Wiccan" is a ludicrous one. biggrin
As I said in the other guild, you are more likely some variation of eclectic neo-pagan. And that's fine, its a perfectly valid path, its just not Wicca. Wicca is a very strict and narrow path and the title of "Wiccan" must be earned through initiation into a lineaged coven. ... could kick your a** !!
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 12:35 pm
How long have you been practicing cards/Wicca/energy work/other, and how long have you been teaching each? Also, is there anything else you would like potential students to know about you, as either a teacher or a practitioner?
Thank you in advance for your answers smile
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The Goddess of Earth Vice Captain
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 12:50 pm
Renkon Root QuirkQueen While I respect your opinion (and that of many others) that a requirement of Wicca is to be initiated into a coven, I myself am a solitary Wiccan, practicing solitary witchcraft. I am not part of a coven, but I do consider myself a Wiccan. This is a legitimate thing, and even if you don't agree with it and I ask that you respect that though you may not consider me a Wiccan, many people do, and please allow me to continue to seek to teach others what I know. The thing is, I cannot in good conscience let you continue to teach "Wicca" because you are only furthering the spread of misinformation.
Wicca is a fertility cult that is right practice over right belief, that means you must practice the religion as it is meant to be practiced to be a part of it and Wiccans practice in a coven. It is near impossible to preform the rites and rituals in Wicca without a coven so the idea of a "solitary Wiccan" is a ludicrous one.
As I said in the other guild, you are more likely some variation of eclectic neo-pagan. And that's fine, its a perfectly valid path, its just not Wicca. Wicca is a very strict and narrow path and the title of "Wiccan" must be earned through initiation into a lineaged coven. ... could kick your a** !! Well that is a relief because you are not the one who decides if someone can or can not teach in this guild, I am. This is Zabazor, the Blessed Principal, and I would like to welcome you to fill out an application in the Academy and apply for a teaching position. There are a few pieces of information that I would like to know about you and your subject, but it isn't much. Renkon Root is just being a little to harsh. But don't worry, you to will learn to take what others say with a grain of salt. If you believe in yourself, then I believe in you. ^_^
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 1:29 pm
Renkon Root This pickled vegetable...The thing is, I cannot in good conscience let you continue to teach "Wicca" because you are only furthering the spread of misinformation.
Wicca is a fertility cult that is right practice over right belief, that means you must practice the religion as it is meant to be practiced to be a part of it and Wiccans practice in a coven. It is near impossible to preform the rites and rituals in Wicca without a coven so the idea of a "solitary Wiccan" is a ludicrous one. biggrin
As I said in the other guild, you are more likely some variation of eclectic neo-pagan. And that's fine, its a perfectly valid path, its just not Wicca. Wicca is a very strict and narrow path and the title of "Wiccan" must be earned through initiation into a lineaged coven. ... could kick your a** !! Would you prefer if I used the term "solitary practitioner"? Because there is such thing and I am a Wiccan, and I do not have a coven. I am not making this term up. It would be nice if you would do research before accusing me of making something up. I at least know where you stand, and respect it. Now, we both know where we stand, and I believe everyone else does, so I would like to ask that we end because this will get no where. If you don't wish to learn from me, that's fine by me, but if others still want to learn from me, I ask that you don't stop them. Inform them of your opinion, of course, though, if you wish. The Goddess of Earth How long have you been practicing cards/Wicca/energy work/other, and how long have you been teaching each? Also, is there anything else you would like potential students to know about you, as either a teacher or a practitioner? Thank you in advance for your answers smile I've been practicing for about two and a half years for the cards and Wicca, but energy working about two. Teaching? Not sure. As for anything else I'd like potential students to know, part of it would be that I am a solitary Wiccan and some believe that makes me an illegitimate Wiccan. (I believe it's only fair that they know - I'll probably edit that into the first post; I didn't think of it until it was brought up just now.) Also, my favorite thing to do is research, so if there is something a potential student would like to learn about, I can research and at least help them get started. zabazor Well that is a relief because you are not the one who decides if someone can or can not teach in this guild, I am. This is Zabazor, the Blessed Principal, and I would like to welcome you to fill out an application in the Academy and apply for a teaching position. There are a few pieces of information that I would like to know about you and your subject, but it isn't much. Renkon Root is just being a little to harsh. But don't worry, you to will learn to take what others say with a grain of salt. If you believe in yourself, then I believe in you. ^_^ Thank you Zabazor; I just may apply.
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 1:35 pm
zabazor Renkon Root QuirkQueen While I respect your opinion (and that of many others) that a requirement of Wicca is to be initiated into a coven, I myself am a solitary Wiccan, practicing solitary witchcraft. I am not part of a coven, but I do consider myself a Wiccan. This is a legitimate thing, and even if you don't agree with it and I ask that you respect that though you may not consider me a Wiccan, many people do, and please allow me to continue to seek to teach others what I know. The thing is, I cannot in good conscience let you continue to teach "Wicca" because you are only furthering the spread of misinformation.
Wicca is a fertility cult that is right practice over right belief, that means you must practice the religion as it is meant to be practiced to be a part of it and Wiccans practice in a coven. It is near impossible to preform the rites and rituals in Wicca without a coven so the idea of a "solitary Wiccan" is a ludicrous one.
As I said in the other guild, you are more likely some variation of eclectic neo-pagan. And that's fine, its a perfectly valid path, its just not Wicca. Wicca is a very strict and narrow path and the title of "Wiccan" must be earned through initiation into a lineaged coven. ... could kick your a** !! Well that is a relief because you are not the one who decides if someone can or can not teach in this guild, I am. This is Zabazor, the Blessed Principal, and I would like to welcome you to fill out an application in the Academy and apply for a teaching position. There are a few pieces of information that I would like to know about you and your subject, but it isn't much. Renkon Root is just being a little to harsh. But don't worry, you to will learn to take what others say with a grain of salt. If you believe in yourself, then I believe in you. ^_^ As you were, I was
Bull ******** s**t. She is not authorized to teach Wicca, she cannot teach Wicca. How in God's name can you honestly let someone spread false and misleading information?
As I am, you will be
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 1:36 pm
I am glad to hear it QuirkQueen! ^_^ We are always looking for new teachers, and you sound dedicated, I like that.
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Calelith: I would like to remind you that swearing is not tolerated in this guild. More than that, you are swearing at a Crew Member. Are you sure that is a road you want to go down? On top of all of that. you do not know if her information is false or mislead. You know little to nothing about her and just because you heard the term Solitary Wicca you flipped. We are an accepting Guild, and if you are not going to be an accepting member then maybe you should leave. My fellow crew members will back me up on this. "Bide within the law you must, of perfect love and perfect trust. Eight words the Reed fulfill: An' ye harm none, do what ye will." "What ye send forth comes back to thee so ever mind the law of three. Follow this with mind and heart, merry ye met, and merry ye part."
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 3:06 pm
QuirkQueen Would you prefer if I used the term "solitary practitioner"? Because there is such thing and I am a Wiccan, and I do not have a coven. I am not making this term up. It would be nice if you would do research before accusing me of making something up. Yes..."solitary practitioner" is perfect. biggrin The problem is that many books that describe a path a "solitary Wiccan" are somewhat mis-labeled. Traditionally, Wicca requires coven based training and initiation. This is fact, not opinion. There are many lineaged Wiccans who absolutely will not acknowledge anyone who has not been initiated as legitimate, and frankly it's easy enough to understand why they feel that way. To gain initiation, one has to do quite a bit of hard work and sacrifice, so to have someone who read a few books come up and claim the same title - tends to make one a bit cranky at best. This isn't to say that on a "solitary" path, one is not doing hard work, but the requirements are not the same. The truth is that there is a big difference between what has been mis-labeled "solitary Wicca" and Traditional Wicca. It's important to note the issue itself isn't your beliefs/practices...only that you call them Wiccan. Quote: I at least know where you stand, and respect it. Now, we both know where we stand, and I believe everyone else does, so I would like to ask that we end because this will get no where. In our lives we are all constantly learning new things - sometimes we find that the things we thought we knew are true and sometimes we find out that we didn't know quite as much as we thought we did. Closing oneself off to the possibility of learning, means we will never know either one. Quote: If you don't wish to learn from me, that's fine by me, but if others still want to learn from me, I ask that you don't stop them. Inform them of your opinion, of course, though, if you wish. We're not necessarily trying to stop them, it is of course up to them. We are simply trying to ascertain if you are in fact qualified to teach. That is one of the first things (and most important) that anyone who is ever looking for a teacher should find out. Quote: I'm not sure what kind of answer you're looking for as to what qualifies me to teach others. Though you've already ansered most of it - you should be able to tell prospective students... 1) exactly what it is you are teaching (specifics) 2) how much experience you have in the subject you are teaching 3) where/how you learned said subject (especially important for things that have specific "certification" requirements) 4) what will your students get from taking your class ...there are probably a few more, but those are the really important ones. Quote: I've been practicing for about two and a half years for the cards and Wicca, but energy working about two. Teaching? Not sure. As for anything else I'd like potential students to know, part of it would be that I am a solitary Wiccan and some believe that makes me an illegitimate Wiccan. (I believe it's only fair that they know - I'll probably edit that into the first post; I didn't think of it until it was brought up just now.) Within Wicca, only HPS/3rd Degree (and in rarer cases 2nd Degree) initiates are allowed to teach/initiate others. It takes years to achieve that status - 2 years is barely enough time to train to 1st Degree. Even teaching Solitary Eclectic Witchcraft, someone with only 2 years experience, is not likely to be qualified to teach others. Quote: The energy working that I am talking about teaching is learning how to control your energy and doing different things with it such as shielding or making psi balls. "Energy Work", is a broad term, and many forms of energy work, cannot be taught over the internet. Things such as Reiki, for example, require face to face instruction. In general it is difficult "energy work" over the internet - yes you can explain concepts and give out exercises, but if your student has never actually experienced what the energy feels like (which is something that can be easily shown in a face to face class), it can quickly end up being extremely frustrating for everyone involved. Quote: Also, my favorite thing to do is research, so if there is something a potential student would like to learn about, I can research and at least help them get started. I love to research stuff as well - this does not however qualify me to teach anyone. This qualifies one to browse the threads in the guilds/forums and answer questions as they arise. A teacher needs to be experienced and/or properly trained in what they are teaching. Anyone can look stuff up, but how do you know that what you find is correct information, unless you are knowledgeable in the subject matter. zabazor This is Zabazor, the Blessed Principal, and I would like to welcome you to fill out an application in the Academy and apply for a teaching position. There are a few pieces of information that I would like to know about you and your subject, but it isn't much. I know you want new teachers in the Academy because it keeps things interesting, but truly it is in the best interest of the Guild (and any prospective students) to make sure that the people who are there teaching others, at the very least have the knowledge and/or experience to actually be teaching what they know to others. Cale....You know that I hate misinformation as much as you do, however there is no need to be rude. It is important to recognize...a lot of people can't help it - there are a crap-ton of books out there telling them it's ok. There are lineaged Wiccans who say it's ok, and lineaged Wiccans who say it's not ok. All we can do, is pass on the good information as best we can. I've found over the years, that people take it a lot better when it's done with a large dose of "honey". 3nodding
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 3:45 pm
zabazor I am glad to hear it QuirkQueen! ^_^ We are always looking for new teachers, and you sound dedicated, I like that. [Edit] Calelith: I would like to remind you that swearing is not tolerated in this guild. More than that, you are swearing at a Crew Member. Are you sure that is a road you want to go down? On top of all of that. you do not know if her information is false or mislead. You know little to nothing about her and just because you heard the term Solitary Wicca you flipped. We are an accepting Guild, and if you are not going to be an accepting member then maybe you should leave. My fellow crew members will back me up on this. "Bide within the law you must, of perfect love and perfect trust. Eight words the Reed fulfill: An' ye harm none, do what ye will." "What ye send forth comes back to thee so ever mind the law of three. Follow this with mind and heart, merry ye met, and merry ye part." I want to point out that 1. Threefold law is not karma. Karma is the idea that both negative and positive energy occurs in the past present and future lives, and is a cultivation of that. It is only meant for dharmic religions like Buddhism, and Hinduism. The three fold rule seems to be a misappropriation of that principle, even if the faction uses it, I'm sure some might find it offensive. Secondly the Wiccan Rede is merely advice not actual law. The word means advice. I can understand why Cal "flipped". Calling oneself a Wiccan when you have not earned the title, is very offensive and rude to those who have actually earned the title. It is much better to call oneself a witch, or even eclectic pagan, because that is what it is. Wicca is a very specific religion referring to those who have followed the Ardanes (the actual 161 laws of Wicca, which ALL Wiccans must follow), those who have initiated, have made their oaths, are declared priest/priestess and witches etc. Therefore since she is not a lineaged Wiccan, does not belong to either Gardenian, Moschian, Alexandrian, Central Valley, Greencraft, Starkinder, and Kingstone (these are the ones that follow the core of Wicca that Gardner himself set up), so she is not qualified to teach anything about Wicca, and would have the vicious cycle of teaching ignorance to her students keep going. She can teach a class on solitary witchcraft. That's fine, but Wicca she cannot. And Ren wasn't being harsh. What's wrong with being a solitary witch? What's wrong with being an eclectic pagan? Why is it okay to misappropriate a term that does not belong to those who have not earned the right? I mean honestly. I'm an eclectic neo-pagan and I am quite happy with that title. Thank you for your time, Rai
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 4:10 pm
Calelith Bull ******** s**t. She is not authorized to teach Wicca, she cannot teach Wicca. How in God's name can you honestly let someone spread false and misleading information? Don't swear, it's very disrespectful. Why can't you just try and write politely? Also, note that zab did not say she could have a class, he asked her to fill out an application form. This is so that we can get more information on the class and what experience/knowledge etc they have. It's so that we know if they are actually able to hold a class with proper information. And yes, I can understand why you would be upset with her wording, but why can't you just explain it without anger? What is the point of getting angry? Surely being respectful to the OP would be better in explaining what is wrong. Guidebook Rules Be respectful (to everyone). Our guild's subject can be taken the wrong way. Voice your opinions, but voice them nicely - in other words, no flaming. We of course don't mind that you are voicing your opinions, but be polite.
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 4:13 pm
zabazor Calelith: I would like to remind you that swearing is not tolerated in this guild. More than that, you are swearing at a Crew Member. Are you sure that is a road you want to go down? On top of all of that. you do not know if her information is false or mislead. You know little to nothing about her and just because you heard the term Solitary Wicca you flipped. We are an accepting Guild, and if you are not going to be an accepting member then maybe you should leave. My fellow crew members will back me up on this. "Bide within the law you must, of perfect love and perfect trust. Eight words the Reed fulfill: An' ye harm none, do what ye will." "What ye send forth comes back to thee so ever mind the law of three. Follow this with mind and heart, merry ye met, and merry ye part." As you were, I was
So basically you're saying that anyone can pick and choose what parts of whatever religion they choose and worship it? Bull s**t. Culture rape isn't exactly that greatest thing to condone in here.
I hope you're aware that the Rede is advice, not a law. The word rede even means advice.
I will also curse at you if necessary, I could care less if you're crew or not. If crew means for you to call everyone who disagrees with you rude or mean, then guess what, you're a ******** hypocrite.
You've proven in the past before how much of a hypocrite you are and if I have to spell it out for you, then you're a terrible crew member as well.
The three fold law is a bunch of bull concocted to prevent 'black' magic from being used, it's also a bastardization of dharmic religions.
She's already proven to me she isn't a Wiccan based on her posts alone.
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So we're suppose to cuddle the misinformed and willfully ignorant now, because they cannot handle a bit of brutal honesty or someone being blunt? rolleyes
As I am, you will be Edit by Mod: Please don't double post - it's against our guild rules. Instead, hit up the edit button. wink
If you're unsure of the definition of double posting, or our rules for that matter, then our Guild Guidebook should answer all your questions.koudelkaW Calelith Bull ******** s**t. She is not authorized to teach Wicca, she cannot teach Wicca. How in God's name can you honestly let someone spread false and misleading information? Don't swear, it's very disrespectful. Why can't you just try and write politely? Also, note that zab did not say she could have a class, he asked her to fill out an application form. This is so that we can get more information on the class and what experience/knowledge etc they have. It's so that we know if they are actually able to hold a class with proper information. And yes, I can understand why you would be upset with her wording, but why can't you just explain it without anger? What is the point of getting angry? Surely being respectful to the OP would be better in explaining what is wrong. Guidebook Rules Be respectful (to everyone). Our guild's subject can be taken the wrong way. Voice your opinions, but voice them nicely - in other words, no flaming. We of course don't mind that you are voicing your opinions, but be polite. As you were, I was
And attempting to spread misinformation isn't disrespectful?
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From what I've seen of this guild, the guild leader and crew wouldn't know what real Wicca was if it bit them in the a**. Every single member here is just as as fluffy as a pillow and won't listen to anyone otherwise. I'm done playing nice and speaking nicely. Maybe if I tell them ******** you a few times and be blunt about they might get out of their little defensive shell and realize that they aren't actually Wiccan.
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