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 Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 5:58 am
Ive been a athiest since I was five.My parents explained to me religions and what they mean and I chose athiesm because I believed after a while there was no proof of the god and jesus
but i knew a few people (Athiest) and a guy on TV (athiest) saying the world would be a better place without religion
I find it...wrong
it would be better if there was no profanity,violence wars ect but if there wasnt you couldnt force them to lose their faith or theyd kill you some more
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:20 pm
If there was no religion there would be know hope. Hope came from people who believed in their faith. I know that you disagree with the whole thing of no religion at all but that is just a small tidbit of what I believe.
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Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 8:38 am
If it were true that people without faith are even more violent, then atheists would be an extremely violent lot, unless of course you mean forcing your point of view on someone else in which I full-heartedly agree, no matter which side of the fence you stand on it's a generally bad thing to do.
Honestly, the idea behind 'no one having religion' is that if society inherently had no religion and instead chose to focus on more, hmmm, practical and substantial things right in front of us instead of arguing over esoteric details for a realty or deity that may or may not exist, well, more would get achieved and according to the atheist that's just one less reason for us all to hate each other.
I'm sure some atheists though state it to be facetious. What can you do?
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Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:46 pm
I agree completely except I don't.
It doesn't take religion to have morals, so that is blown out of the water. Not to mention you can't exactly avoid profanity/violence. If the world was run better, it would be better.
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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:50 am
Lateralus es Helica If it were true that people without faith are even more violent, then atheists would be an extremely violent lot, unless of course you mean forcing your point of view on someone else in which I full-heartedly agree, no matter which side of the fence you stand on it's a generally bad thing to do. Honestly, the idea behind 'no one having religion' is that if society inherently had no religion and instead chose to focus on more, hmmm, practical and substantial things right in front of us instead of arguing over esoteric details for a realty or deity that may or may not exist, well, more would get achieved and according to the atheist that's just one less reason for us all to hate each other. I'm sure some atheists though state it to be facetious. What can you do? i think atheists have faith... its just not to a diety
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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:45 pm
I agree with what you say, actually. Well for the most part.
It really humors me when people say, "Hehe, religion causes war." While yes, war is caused by religion. But do they not realize, if it wasn't religion, it'd be something else? Money. Land. Power. You know, the typical things that war is fought over, with religion, at times, as a cover up.
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:09 pm
Religion is quite simply an expression for morality and an explanation of the supernatural (no, you don't have to be pagan for supernatural-such a things exists everywhere, even in the christian, islamic, and jewish faiths)
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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 4:29 am
I'm an atheist who believe in moral structure. As far as religion goes, it has played its part in both saving people and destroying them. It has been instrumental in providing both hope and terror. People use it as they see fit in many cases. Others are honest to it with true heart. It really does vary. Personally I think we ultimately derive our values from our interactions with each other over time. And to an extent, we have a natural way of dealing with one-another. Many things are taught, yes, and I'm fairly certain more hard than good would come of the aboloishment of religion, but that's just considering all the cards in play at present.
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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 3:47 pm
Diversity is the spice of life. Living in a somewhat religiously oppressive state, I've seen what too much of any particular religion or irreligion does, and none of it's good. It's like it stagnates into pools of hypocrisy bigotry closed mindedness. Fact is we need a lot of different religions, irreligions, and differing philosophies to prevent this stagnation. In my experience people who believe otherwise (no religions or one religion) are unfailingly close minded, bigoted, and hypocritical regardless of what they believe or don't believe. Religion has a place that has nothing to do with what yours does for you personally. What we actually need is more tolerance and less ignorance.
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:58 am
Insatiable Design Diversity is the spice of life. Living in a somewhat religiously oppressive state, I've seen what too much of any particular religion or irreligion does, and none of it's good. It's like it stagnates into pools of hypocrisy bigotry closed mindedness. Fact is we need a lot of different religions, irreligions, and differing philosophies to prevent this stagnation. In my experience people who believe otherwise (no religions or one religion) are unfailingly close minded, bigoted, and hypocritical regardless of what they believe or don't believe. Religion has a place that has nothing to do with what yours does for you personally. What we actually need is more tolerance and less ignorance. Can you give an example of a "particular irreligion"?
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:00 am
mazuac I agree with what you say, actually. Well for the most part.
It really humors me when people say, "Hehe, religion causes war." While yes, war is caused by religion. But do they not realize, if it wasn't religion, it'd be something else? Money. Land. Power. You know, the typical things that war is fought over, with religion, at times, as a cover up. Many atheists understand that it is not the religion that caused the war in some cases- but it's the fact the religion was used to excuse such horrible behaviour. In fact, some parts of the bible may in fact be examples of this- such as Joshua massacring several cities then exclaiming 'God told me to! That's why we won!" immediately made him the good guy and put down in 'history' for the religion as a soldier of God and what he was doing was automatically right. Even though it is much more likely the cities filled with people who 'rejected' God and were 'wicked' likely were cities that had their own culture that had traditions or norms that were not allowed in a Christian/Judaic society. An example of this is ***** in ancient Sparta, Greece- due to the culture, this sort of attraction became very common and became so common it was a cultural norm. But here, that is an utter atrocity. So, in our eyes, the Spartans were monstrous, even though it's just a difference of culture brought upon by the traditions of the Spartan society versus the traditions of our own society.
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 1:38 am
The world would be a better place if every religious person understood that using their religion as a hope seller of empty delusions is not right. Using violence, discrimination and profiting out of other people's needs should be reggarded as vile and immoral. The problem with alot of religions (i.e Islam, Christian) is that they are fundamentaly inconsistent with the notion that they serve a loving and caring god.
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:16 am
King Richy Rich The world would be a better place if every religious person understood that using their religion as a hope seller of empty delusions is not right. Using violence, discrimination and profiting out of other people's needs should be reggarded as vile and immoral. The problem with alot of religions (i.e Islam, Christian) is that they are fundamentaly inconsistent with the notion that they serve a loving and caring god. I agree ... and i'm religous. I also has the One God Faith(s) (Christianity, Judaism, Islam) as a foundation for my religous views.
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:56 am
Tiina Brown King Richy Rich The world would be a better place if every religious person understood that using their religion as a hope seller of empty delusions is not right. Using violence, discrimination and profiting out of other people's needs should be reggarded as vile and immoral. The problem with alot of religions (i.e Islam, Christian) is that they are fundamentaly inconsistent with the notion that they serve a loving and caring god. I agree ... and i'm religous. I also has the One God Faith(s) (Christianity, Judaism, Islam) as a foundation for my religous views. Abrahamic 3nodding
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:19 pm
Sanguina Cruenta Tiina Brown King Richy Rich The world would be a better place if every religious person understood that using their religion as a hope seller of empty delusions is not right. Using violence, discrimination and profiting out of other people's needs should be reggarded as vile and immoral. The problem with alot of religions (i.e Islam, Christian) is that they are fundamentaly inconsistent with the notion that they serve a loving and caring god. I agree ... and i'm religous. I also has the One God Faith(s) (Christianity, Judaism, Islam) as a foundation for my religous views. Abrahamic 3nodding You are tachnically correct, but to me, it is wrong to call them Abrahamic, since it is really the One God that is the centre, not Abraham. Also, both Jews and arabs may claim Abraham as ancestor, but the christians, nor any others, cannot. And really, i do question that ancestry in its entirety, but that is an entirely different topic. Oh, and the idea of one loving God is really older than Abraham, it's just that that One God used to be feminine, and not masculine .... but to me it may very well be the same. I only mentiones the "Abrahamic" ones because those are the ones most known, and those i really knows anything about, except for some parts of the mythological ones that has several gods and godesses.
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