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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 2:51 pm
Because of conditions and practicality, I have decided to draw a circle on a large white sheet to use in my rituals instead of just drawing them over and over again. The main reason I am doing this is because in my room, which is carpeted I either draw the circle with chalk witch takes several weeks to fully come out even if I thoroughly wash it, or string which I can never get even close to circular and I'm OCD. This is a highly effective method of casting circles so please don't tell me that it won't work as well. Many experts use this method. Anyway, I know that the choice is up to me and of course my final decision would be, but how would you design it it if were you? Would you leave it plain, draw runes or sigils on it, spell out invocations or words of power and protection, name important deities or astral figures? Just curious, how would you do so and which aspect do you think is the most important?
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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:47 pm
I would go all out. Having my own runes and sigils all over it. I would have the corners marked with dramatic symbols of the elements. I do not think I would have many gods/goddesses on it because I have a tendency to call to different ones, but my deity, Pan, would be on there. That would be my perfect circle.
Love the idea BTW, and think I may use it when I can get my hands on large enough cloth. Where are you buying it BTW?
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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:56 pm
zabazor I would go all out. Having my own runes and sigils all over it. I would have the corners marked with dramatic symbols of the elements. I do not think I would have many gods/goddesses on it because I have a tendency to call to different ones, but my deity, Pan, would be on there. That would be my perfect circle. Love the idea BTW, and think I may use it when I can get my hands on large enough cloth. Where are you buying it BTW? thank you for the input. to be honest i wasn't quite sure which things to put on it and to not. It was just a big white sheet that we had and wasn't in use. I'm sure that you can find a cheap one at goodwill or a thrift shop, or if not then you can buy them relatively cheap at your local target,walmart, or k-mart. If you have a fabric store then it might just be cheaper to buy one to your specific dimensions of a cheap material. Also, when doing this make sure that you are careful and use a ruler and a pencil when doing this otherwise it will mess up quite badly. Mine so far is a large circle with a pentacle in it and eight more pentacles for candles spaced around the outside of the circle. Good luck! Also, I would make it relatively genral so you can use it in most ever kind of circle. Good luck!
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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:12 pm
The point of casting a circle, is the act of creating a sacred space - a barrier between the worlds, a container to store up good energy for use in ritual and spell work and to keep negative energy/entities out. Even if you have the circle on a sheet, you should still be casting a circle every time. It's not like, ok I've laid out my sheet and it's all done.
You don't need to be using string, or chalk to make your circle. While it can be nice to have an actual representation of the circle - it is something that is more of an energetic thing. It doesn't matter if your circle is perfectly shaped, it matters that you create it.
Magic is in the act of drawing the circle and the symbols (if you use them), having it on a sheet sort of defeats the purpose.
I'd be interested in knowing what resources you've been using that say that using a sheet is a "highly effective" method. I've read many things over the years, and have to admit this is the first time I've ever come across it. While many people will often draw circles/symbols on their coven/ritual area floor - it is there as a "template". It's not there so that they can skip a few steps in the ritual.
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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 5:17 pm
too2sweet The point of casting a circle, is the act of creating a sacred space - a barrier between the worlds, a container to store up good energy for use in ritual and spell work and to keep negative energy/entities out. Even if you have the circle on a sheet, you should still be casting a circle every time. It's not like, ok I've laid out my sheet and it's all done. You don't need to be using string, or chalk to make your circle. While it can be nice to have an actual representation of the circle - it is something that is more of an energetic thing. It doesn't matter if your circle is perfectly shaped, it matters that you create it. Magic is in the act of drawing the circle and the symbols (if you use them), having it on a sheet sort of defeats the purpose. I'd be interested in knowing what resources you've been using that say that using a sheet is a "highly effective" method. I've read many things over the years, and have to admit this is the first time I've ever come across it. While many people will often draw circles/symbols on their coven/ritual area floor - it is there as a "template". It's not there so that they can skip a few steps in the ritual. I understand that you have to cast the circle every time, but you don't have to draw it every time. You are still empowering the circle as you cast it and it works the same way and so do the names and symbols when you invoke and evoke them. Also, if you are trying to create a more complex and intricate circle for a more complex ritual then it is good to have a complex circle already laid out so all you have to do is cast it and in/evoke whatever aspects you will be using. Here is a link to the webpage that I read the bit about drawing or painting the circle on a sheet. this page talks about mainly using the circle for calling on spirits(which is highly dangerous and should only be attempted by highly experienced witches), but it still works the same.
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Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 2:46 am
Personally, I'd discourage you from drawing anything but a circle on your cloth. That's just me but things like Deities, sigils etc can be drawn separately and placed on the circle.
It would give you a little more freedom to gear the circle in the direction of each individual ritual. Also, the circle is meant to be the backbone and protector so keeping it plain and simple can only intensify the purest purpose for it.
Just my two pennies worth.
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Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:59 am
I love drawing circles, Though admittedly never at large scale, I use them to decorate my alter. I recommend you get a Geometer, a plastic sheet with geometric figures on it, that way you keep everything nice and neat, try googleing astrological and alchemical symbols too, theyadd an air of mystery, you can also google mystical alphabets for your writing on the circle.
though I personally use a mentally created circle, walk around with a wand type of thing, I Think this would be a fun project to embark on, I wish you good luck!
post scripta: beware, some symbols on the internet are not nice things, always double check for safety.
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Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 7:25 am
too2sweet The point of casting a circle, is the act of creating a sacred space - a barrier between the worlds, a container to store up good energy for use in ritual and spell work and to keep negative energy/entities out. Even if you have the circle on a sheet, you should still be casting a circle every time. It's not like, ok I've laid out my sheet and it's all done. You don't need to be using string, or chalk to make your circle. While it can be nice to have an actual representation of the circle - it is something that is more of an energetic thing. It doesn't matter if your circle is perfectly shaped, it matters that you create it. Magic is in the act of drawing the circle and the symbols (if you use them), having it on a sheet sort of defeats the purpose. I'd be interested in knowing what resources you've been using that say that using a sheet is a "highly effective" method. I've read many things over the years, and have to admit this is the first time I've ever come across it. While many people will often draw circles/symbols on their coven/ritual area floor - it is there as a "template". It's not there so that they can skip a few steps in the ritual. very opinionated. Please remember that many people here have slightly different crafts and practices. What you do may not correlate directly to what they do. If you want to say something this opinionated try adding "I think" / "I believe" at the beginning, it makes it sound friendlier.
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Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 7:43 am
Ritual at Dusk... the link isn't showing up zabazor very opinionated. Please remember that many people here have slightly different crafts and practices. What you do may not correlate directly to what they do. If you want to say something this opinionated try adding "I think" / "I believe" at the beginning, it makes it sound friendlier. I am very aware of the differences in practices contained within this guild and within the world in general. I am also familiar enough with the OP to know what her general flavor of practice is, and even if I wasn't - in almost all "wicca" inspired paths - circle casting has a specific purpose, and there are somewhat specific ways of casting those types of circles. So, it's not an "I Believe", or an "opinionated" statement that I am making, it is a "this is the reasoning behind why circles are cast", based on 10+ years of research, study and practice. People are more than welcome to do whatever they want to do - but I'm still going to continue to let them know what I've learned over the years. If they want to ignore me, that's their choice, but don't pretend that what I'm saying (at least in this particular case) is just my opinion.
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Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 9:03 am
I agree with too2sweet. Furthermore, all the times I've spoken to her or met her in forums I've found her opinions to be backed up with evidence. I don't see what, in her first post, would want for friendliness. She's a lovely person with a lot of knowledge to share. And what's wrong with having an opinion? Perhaps you dislike her style of posting but that's for her to decide.
*Takes nose back out*
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Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 6:34 pm
Just to be clear, The drawing of a circle is for the "barrier" (for want of a better word) circle around the sacred space, as it is presented here. the reason I ask is that sometimes, I work spells into drawings like the circle in my sig, using correspondence, poetry and magical alphabets to represent the desired result or effect. maybe it is similar to a blue-print for the magic? but I digress which kind of circle are we talking about, I think the circle casting one, and are they both under the same rule or are they divergent
post scripta: the one in my sig is just for fun, not an actual spell
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Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 6:52 pm
lets see here a reference pic http://kuchimakase.cielle.org/2009/06/axis-powers-hetalia-ep-12-16/ it's the 21st pic from the top. It would be so funny when people just randomly walk in.
jk, i think that a cool idea if i can ever convince my mom that i have some commen sence and that- *rants off for a minute* or just wait one more year and two days *angelic chorus sings*
Where was I... oh, well i would draw my circle like a braid, I've got this cool Celtic knot idea thing in my head. Am I making any sense?
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Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:18 pm
too2sweet Ritual at Dusk... the link isn't showing up zabazor very opinionated. Please remember that many people here have slightly different crafts and practices. What you do may not correlate directly to what they do. If you want to say something this opinionated try adding "I think" / "I believe" at the beginning, it makes it sound friendlier. I am very aware of the differences in practices contained within this guild and within the world in general. I am also familiar enough with the OP to know what her general flavor of practice is, and even if I wasn't - in almost all "wicca" inspired paths - circle casting has a specific purpose, and there are somewhat specific ways of casting those types of circles. So, it's not an "I Believe", or an "opinionated" statement that I am making, it is a "this is the reasoning behind why circles are cast", based on 10+ years of research, study and practice. People are more than welcome to do whatever they want to do - but I'm still going to continue to let them know what I've learned over the years. If they want to ignore me, that's their choice, but don't pretend that what I'm saying (at least in this particular case) is just my opinion. that's pretty presumptuous saying you know what my general style of practice is. I do a lot of different styles of practice, partly why I am trying out this new style.
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Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 6:54 pm
Thank you Ritual at Rusk for supporting my opinion. As for before, I almost forgot to thank you for the sheet comment. I will go look for one right away. I really love this idea because I have never done anything other than a mental circle, and I would like to have a visual one to help solidify it when casting, "keep it real in my mind".
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Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 5:37 am
Ritual at Dusk that's pretty presumptuous saying you know what my general style of practice is. I do a lot of different styles of practice, partly why I am trying out this new style. I didn't say that I know your interests and practices inside and out, but we've had multiple discussions via PMs and in this guild, so I have a basic idea where your interests lay. If I'm completely off-base, and there are other specific paths/practices that interest you, let us know so we can better answer your questions (as they relate to those practices). Being that this is a "Wiccan" guild, I usually base my answers to things on "is this how it's done within Wicca" (trad or otherwise). Your statement about using the sheet implied that you were going to use the sheet instead of casting your circle, which is what I was comment on. As you were quick to let me know that wasn't the case, then there isn't really an issue with it. I'm still interested in the link, because I'd like to see where the information is coming from (what the author's background is, etc...) Quote: Also, if you are trying to create a more complex and intricate circle for a more complex ritual then it is good to have a complex circle already laid out so all you have to do is cast it and in/evoke whatever aspects you will be using. Within "Wicca", a circle is a circle - there is no "intricate". Your ritual can be as simple or complex as you want it, the circle remains the same - this isn't to say there aren't a variety of ways of casting it, just that at the end of the day it's still just a circle . It begs the question of what exactly you are trying to invoke that you feel you need to add extra "bells and whistles" to your circle casting. zabazor...As I mentioned above - this being a "Wiccan" guild, my answers to things are always going to be based on the assumption that we are discussing "Wicca" (unless the OP specifically states that they are talking about something else). If you don't like the way I post, I can't help that. Tone of voice doesn't carry well over the internet, so what you are taking one way - isn't really the way I'm thinking when I'm typing. I tend to be a lot more direct and to the point when I type, but that doesn't mean I'm being a b***h. It just means that over the years I've found that I've appreciated it 100 times more when people have given me a straight answer, rather than sugar coat it, or beat around the bush.
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