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Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 1:42 am
Yay! Well since most of the Life Issue people I spoke to tonight are incompitant, ill-literate, and just plain full of crap, I decided to bring my toic to the profesionals. It might take forever, but at least I won't get an answer like, "Du get a fone. -o-!!!11``2323~~"
[Yeah, Grey isn't in a good mood, necessarily.]Grey Okay, so here is my story, and I would really just like everyone's opinion, because I want to know how to keep this going.
Recently, while hanging in the Gaia Community Discussion, I decided to go watch the multi-media in my profile. So I walk over there, and it's broken! Anyone know how to fix this!? --and long and behold, someone has posted a comment in my profile. It's very nice, and I think it was very nice of them to compliment me. So, I send them a Private Message, and they say it's no problem and all.
Soon the discussion leads to AOL Instant Messenger, and as time goes by we start talking about our past experiences. Surprisingly, we both just about had the same experiences, like the same things, and think almost the same. Not only this, but we both get along terrific, and love being in each-other's company.
Soon enough, she decides to ask me out, and I accept. As crazy as it sounds, as time went by and went by, we've got-ten really attacked, and it's only been one week. When we speak to each-other, we both feel a profound feeling of joy, light hearted-ness, and also just feeling really happy, and non-caring to the outside world. We just want to be together, and love every moment we are.
I think I might really be in love, and I want to keep this relationship going. What do you guys think? How might we get even closer, and what do you think about the idea itself. I know people always say that you can't feel love over the computer or whatever, but we really do feel something happening right now.
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Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 9:30 am
Well, getting a telephone couldn't hurt....
Other than that, webcams maybe? They're always fun. Hehehehehehehe.
How far away does this girl live?
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Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 11:18 am
I usually make my opinion of OLRs quite well known, but if you haven't heard, the usually lead to trouble. See, one main issue is that you start viewing it as a real relationship. This causes you (or the other person) to become slightly possessive of the other, which in turn opens a whole can of nasties. Say, for instance, she becomes attached to you. Now you're expected to be online most every night, which limits the other things you could be doing. But...it's not like you're actually spending time with her. No, you're really just growing closer to your monitor, or worse, making love to it. So, you're stuck in this relationship, and you stay in it because you "don't want to hurt her." This is fine and dandy, except that you still have no idea what she's really like. Every one gives off a better (or in rare cases, worse) persona online than they are in real life. If you take the chance to meet her, there's a possibility that she's the same person offline as she is online, but every year people do get heartbroken/killed meeting others online. I don't know, it's your call, but these are a few reasons why I have been, and will always be, against OLRs.
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Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 11:42 am
Soleq I usually make my opinion of OLRs quite well known, but if you haven't heard, the usually lead to trouble. See, one main issue is that you start viewing it as a real relationship. This causes you (or the other person) to become slightly possessive of the other, which in turn opens a whole can of nasties. Say, for instance, she becomes attached to you. Now you're expected to be online most every night, which limits the other things you could be doing. But...it's not like you're actually spending time with her. No, you're really just growing closer to your monitor, or worse, making love to it. So, you're stuck in this relationship, and you stay in it because you "don't want to hurt her." This is fine and dandy, except that you still have no idea what she's really like. Every one gives off a better (or in rare cases, worse) persona online than they are in real life. If you take the chance to meet her, there's a possibility that she's the same person offline as she is online, but every year people do get heartbroken/killed meeting others online. I don't know, it's your call, but these are a few reasons why I have been, and will always be, against OLRs.
I usually make my opinion of proposing to someone 2 weeks after meeting them quite well known, but if you haven't heard, it usually leads to trouble. See, one main issue is that you start being viewed as someone incredibly immature. This causes you (or the other person) to become slightly nervous and uncomfortable, which in turn opens a whole can of nasties. Say, for instance, she becomes attached to you. Now you're expected to fullfill the commitment you've made to her, which limits the other people you could be dating. But...It's not like you're actualling completely in love with her yet. No, you're really just growing closer to her and starting to fall in love, or worse, not falling in love with them. So, you're stuck in this relationship, and you stay in it because you "don't want to hurt her." This is fine and dandy, except that you still have no idea what it would really be like to live with this person forever. Every one gives off a better (or in rare cases, worse) persona to people they've just met and started dated. If you take the chance of moving in and marrying her, there's a possibility that she's the same person there as she was before, but every year people do get heartbroken/divorced marrying others too soon. I don't know, it's your call, but these are a few reasons why I have been, and will always be, against proposing after 2 weeks.
Please, don't kill me ;_; <--
But also... Yeah... A phone is always good... Save up, buy a plane ticket...
Online Relationships will always be harder than real life ones...
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Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 11:58 am
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Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 11:59 am
I really couldn't resist doing that... <.<;;;
Besides... Laurel told me to o.o I probably would have shrugged the idea off if it wasnt for her "Do it, do it, do it"s ^^;;
EDIT: Besides... I didn't mean it as a complete insult... You married the girl, therefore, it only proves there are exceptions to each our opinions
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Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 12:12 pm
I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry.
I'm sorry Soleq. sad
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Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 12:45 pm
xLaurelX I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry.
I'm sorry Soleq. sad
^ Me too.
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Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 1:42 pm
I think it's possible to fall in love with a person over a matter of weeks, but then again, the only way to test it is if you wait it out. I personally have no problem with dating online. Often, getting to know a person without actually seeing them first eliminates (to a certain degree) shallowness and liking them only for their outward appearance.
Though I do agree with Soleq, I also think it's okay to continue the relationship. If it does last for a good length of time (say around six months) and you still find she acts the same without any slip ups, I think it's fair to say that that's a roughly accurate picture of who she is in real life.
I'd also argue that when meeting people in real life, you do not always see who they really are. You are more prone to hide in real life than online. However, it is true that when you're online you tend to hide your faults more often, because it's easy for me to go back and edit this before I press the submit button. It's highly unlikely, however, that your true personality will not be revealed in the time span of around six months.
Enjoy the happy times while they last, but know that all good things come to an end. And in a relationship, once the glamour is gone, the only thing left is to fall back on a friendship. If you had no friendship, then there will be nothing left for you with her.
I think you should ask her for her address and phone number. I did that with one of my friends from gaia, and have actually sent him a Christmas card and such. If she lives quite far away, phone cards are a good investment. That way your parents won't have to worry about the phone bill. Again, I went out and bought two ten dollar phone cards and sent one to my friend, just in case. It's always nice to hear a person's voice when you're talking to them. Webcams are also nice since it sometimes feels as though you're actually with them.
I do believe that it is possible to fall in love over the internet, but I also believe that since love lasts forever, it's only test is time.
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Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 5:16 pm
Well as long as you try and get your relationship from just being on the computer then I would say sure, go for it. Try talking to her on the phone or going to visit her. You should get to know her well in person or otherwise it probably won't last.
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Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 6:44 pm
I'm not going to tell you that all online relationships fail, because that's an unfair assessment. You can't really say that all of one or another works or doesn't work. For example, a high school teacher friend met her husband online.
These relationships all depend on the people involved,
a) how devoted they both are to the relationship, b) how open and honest they are with one another, c) how willing they are to make an effort to communicate.
First of all, if you really want to pursue a long-distance relationship, you have to be very sure that both people involved want to really commit, that they view each othr as real people with real emotions, and that they are honest with one another about their feelings on a constant basis. If you want it to work like a normal relationship, both parties have to treat it like one.
If both of you treat it like any other relationship, who's to say it won't work like one?
You both also have to recognize, however, that these kinds of relationships sometimes have more hardships involved. It's hard to convey tone over the internet. You might not always be able to talk to one another readily. You won't have a tangible bodily connection. It requires a lot of dedication and patience. When the two of you can't chat, you have to be able to rely on email, for example. Sometimes you could go a week without speaking.
As for other ways to keep in touch, my girlfriend and I are in a long distance relationship; she lives halfway across the country, a timezone away. We talk over AIM a lot, but there are periods where we can't always do that. In those cases, we use email, or leave messages through other sites (like deviantart or here). We also have phone conversations once in awhile -- I understand that this isn't easy or even possible what with phone plans and such. Phone cards are great investments for long distance relationships, or if one person has a phone plan that allows to call the other person, it's their job to initiate calls. Good old-fashioned letters and packages are also great, even if they take longer to get somewhere. Handwriting, doodles, even things like the kind of paper or ink or the way it smells, are far more personal than anything electronic. (Think of it this way; in older wars, people built relationships on paper letters.) Using a computer mic to record and send your voice -- even if it's just short little messages, or you singing a song she likes -- mean a lot. Sending photos helps make it more personal, and webcams and such are good if you have one. If not, did you know they make disposable camcorders now? They burn everything directly to a DVD.
So, there are tons of ways to make it work -- if you really want to make it work.
For a lot of people, it's easier, better, and/or safer for them to forgo it and pursue something closer, or wait for something closer to come up.
But, if you really think you love this person, and you still want to do this after the list of things it could require, more power to you honey. Go for it, it can work.
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 9:25 am
As has already been said, try webcam. Maybe even sending occassional sweet greetings such as hugs and what not. In time, maybe start writing each other.
To make it simple, take baby steps. See how the flow of time changes things. Maybe if you get enough time and trust built up, the two of you could work on saving up and meeting one another some day.
I will not lie to you though, without true patience, understanding, as well as nurturing a long distance relationship is not likely to last. Long distance takes a lot of work. However, if the two of you are determined enough it can make it. Especailly if the two of you are truly devoted to one another.
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Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 10:43 pm
WOw your... me, like a month ago. my advice is if you love her tell her comunication is always a challnge, for the phone if your worried about your (or her) parents finding out use pre paid phone cards they dont show up on the bill. if you can communitcate by webcomfancing then do so. And my most important advice is not to worry about what peaple say (srry to thoughs who have had bad experinces sweatdrop ) Online and long distance relationships can work, trust me I know, you just have to be alot more patient and communicate alot more then in a "normal" relationship. Good luck to you.
BTW: I met my love here too and we are very happy together, and very deeply in love.
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 2:11 pm
Online relationships are tough because you have to deal with the idea that in a lot of places it is not socially acceptable as a relationship, and that it can easily become a burden on you if you don't handle it the right way. I know that it is absolutely possible to fall in love with a person ina matter of weeks (think about it, people do it all the time in real life, the only difference is that this is over the internet instead), I met my husband on line and we fell in love with each other in a matter of days. Though the only difference is that we knew that it would have been utterly stupid to take the relationship fast just because we had gut feelings that we loved each other. We dated online for a year, then we met, he met my family and I moved to be with him, a little less than a year after that we decided on marrage, and our engagement was also a year long. So yeah, even though we knew we loved each other within days of meeting each other, we waited 3 years to finally be married. Love means that you are commited to a person, and being commited means that you can wait as long as it takes, and make sometime painful sacrifices. That is why it is hard for a relationship like this to work. I would say that if you really want this you should really find a way to start talking to this person with your voice instead of your fingertips, and then consider meeting her soon. and seeing her several times. People are often different online than they are offline, you need to know if this is what you really want to spend all of your time and energy on.
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:54 am
Happy Landfill Yay! Well since most of the Life Issue people I spoke to tonight are incompitant, ill-literate, and just plain full of crap, I decided to bring my toic to the profesionals. It might take forever, but at least I won't get an answer like, "Du get a fone. -o-!!!11``2323~~"
[Yeah, Grey isn't in a good mood, necessarily.]Grey Okay, so here is my story, and I would really just like everyone's opinion, because I want to know how to keep this going.
Recently, while hanging in the Gaia Community Discussion, I decided to go watch the multi-media in my profile. So I walk over there, and it's broken! Anyone know how to fix this!? --and long and behold, someone has posted a comment in my profile. It's very nice, and I think it was very nice of them to compliment me. So, I send them a Private Message, and they say it's no problem and all.
Soon the discussion leads to AOL Instant Messenger, and as time goes by we start talking about our past experiences. Surprisingly, we both just about had the same experiences, like the same things, and think almost the same. Not only this, but we both get along terrific, and love being in each-other's company.
Soon enough, she decides to ask me out, and I accept. As crazy as it sounds, as time went by and went by, we've got-ten really attacked, and it's only been one week. When we speak to each-other, we both feel a profound feeling of joy, light hearted-ness, and also just feeling really happy, and non-caring to the outside world. We just want to be together, and love every moment we are.
I think I might really be in love, and I want to keep this relationship going. What do you guys think? How might we get even closer, and what do you think about the idea itself. I know people always say that you can't feel love over the computer or whatever, but we really do feel something happening right now. CANT FALL IN LOVE ON THE COMPUTER?!!!!!! ok here leme tell you my story. when I was 11 i met this guy, in a harry potter chat room.(im 18 now) ok...i fell for his bestfriend lol at first.four years of my life i was in love with tys...on and off though cause i had real life stuff going on and so did he. anyways over time i got closer to tys's bestfriend adam..the guy who i originally met......and....well over time i fell for him insted lol....then....even more time past...... blah blah JUMPS ABOUT Two years, ok. after two years of phone cards and pain of missing eachother. Oh btw did im ention I live in atlanta georgia..he lives in canada. o.0 OK! well finally i met him at his senior prom. when i was 16...ok...jump about two more years lol and were engaged. so yea, ok you cant fall in love over the internet? Bulllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll shitiakie mushrooms.lol anyways, if your happy, go with it. but its gunna be massivly hard. but yea, get a phone..if ur old enough meet at a mall or something lol. IDk..i always support going with it online. but be carefull.
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