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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 4:08 pm


yess A recent study in the Netherlands gives smokers one more reason to kick the habit, saying cigarettes
may contain pigs' blood. Yucky. Pig hemoglobin is sometimes used in cigarette filters, according to recent Dutch research, so are we gonna have to get a rabbi to certify the cigarette companies? eek
 
PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:47 pm


It depends, if it some do contain "pig blood" some rabbanim will say no you cannot use them. Although non certified gum some rabbanim do allow because you so not actually consume it, possibly the same theory will be used in this situation

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:34 pm


except fiberglass is what's used in the filter.

I don't see how porcine hemoglobin is used to filter tar from cigarette smoke.
PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 6:49 am


But, if a rabbi would have to certify a cigarette, as Kosher I guess, to show that it doesn't contain pigs blood, that is the rabbi giving the person permission to smoke which is a well known cause of health problems. Isn't that a bad thing to have to certify as something someone can use? xp

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 5:29 am


YES, Woolie, my thoughts exactly. If someone actually makes a halachic decision that any brand of cigarette is kosher, then someone else will surely say "Oh, smoking's kosher," and start (or re-start) smoking.

The Torah tells us that we are to live by it. It does not say that we are to die by it. So how can something which will surely kill people be kosher? I know there are Jews who smoke, but I can't view it as kosher, myself. I'm not a halachic authority, so I have no right to say whether it is or isn't kosher to smoke, but I do wish that some big-name halachic decision maker would come down hard on this.
PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:24 am


http://www.myjewishlearning.com/practices/Ethics/Our_Bodies/Health_and_Healing/Smoking_Alcohol_and_Drugs/Tobacco.shtml

In early Hasidism tobacco occupied an important role. Some of the Hasidic masters looked upon tobacco as the modern equivalent of incense in Temple times and many of them used to smoke a meditative pipe before they offered their prayers.

A further idea found among the early Hasidim is that there are subtle 'holy sparks' in tobacco which, under divine providence, was brought to Europe so that the masters could elevate these sparks in order to complete the full restoration that would result in the coming of the Messiah.

A later Hasidic master said that tobacco was used by pagan savages before it was brought to Europe. Its use by the Hasidim raises the weed from the profane to the sacred in that no one is ashamed to accept from another a peck of snuff or a pipeful of tobacco and so acts of benevolence are carried out through it all the time.

The smoking of a pipe by the Hasidim must have been a prevalent practice in early Hasidism since, in the polemics against them, there are repeated accusations that they waste hours in smoking.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 5:09 am


...And yet it can kill you, and it leads to a lot of littering, plus it STINKS. None of those things are holy or do anything to raise the reputation of the Am Kadosh.
PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 2:32 am


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YES, Woolie, my thoughts exactly. If someone actually makes a halachic decision that any brand of cigarette is kosher, then someone else will surely say "Oh, smoking's kosher," and start (or re-start) smoking.

The Torah tells us that we are to live by it. It does not say that we are to die by it. So how can something which will surely kill people be kosher? I know there are Jews who smoke, but I can't view it as kosher, myself. I'm not a halachic authority, so I have no right to say whether it is or isn't kosher to smoke, but I do wish that some big-name halachic decision maker would come down hard on this.


I'm glad that it weren't just me thinking it was a little weird. I'm definitely never going to smoke, but I just can't see how a rabbi can say yes, it is kosher, to someone, and in that way, sign their health away by letting them smoke.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 12:57 pm


Lawl. Get an electric cigar. ^_^ Instead of pig's blood, it would be Antifreeze. ((They use Antifreeze chemicals in electric cigars))

Should we get a doctor or a rabbi with the less expensive electrical alternative? lawl. Another reason why alternative ways of not polluting the environment can be detrimental. xD
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