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 Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 10:40 am
Have any of you ever been in a judgement service? Just out of curiosity.
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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:00 pm
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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 10:48 pm
Loooooooooooooooooong story.
It was, like, scary. Hard to explain unless you were there..
It was like, God was truly ther, pulling on a few people's hearts for what could have been for the last time. It was really intense. Tongues and interpretation, though the interpretation wasn't really needed. It was an eye-opener
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Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 1:36 pm
Hizuma the Troublesome Loooooooooooooooooong story.
It was, like, scary. Hard to explain unless you were there..
It was like, God was truly ther, pulling on a few people's hearts for what could have been for the last time. It was really intense. Tongues and interpretation, though the interpretation wasn't really needed. It was an eye-opener Ohhh you had a dream about Judgement Day (i think). Nope sorry i never had a dream about it, but i have had dreams about the raptures happening.
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Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 9:12 pm
It wasn;t a dream, It happened during church Sunday
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Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:18 pm
I'm very skeptical with some services... I've seen a lot of things faked
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Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 7:19 pm
Hizuma the Troublesome Loooooooooooooooooong story.
It was, like, scary. Hard to explain unless you were there..
It was like, God was truly ther, pulling on a few people's hearts for what could have been for the last time. It was really intense. Tongues and interpretation, though the interpretation wasn't really needed. It was an eye-opener An interpreter is need. Paul wrote that one of the ways we know it's from God is that there is an interpreter and they speak one at a time.
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Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:16 pm
There was tongues. And there was an interpretation. Though like I said, I think everybody understood it without the interpretation. It was.... wow
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Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:49 pm
Hizuma the Troublesome There was tongues. And there was an interpretation. Though like I said, I think everybody understood it without the interpretation. It was.... wow How can everyone understand it without an interpreter?
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Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:32 pm
gothic_black_rose Hizuma the Troublesome There was tongues. And there was an interpretation. Though like I said, I think everybody understood it without the interpretation. It was.... wow How can everyone understand it without an interpreter? God gave them the ability to understand it. Tongues is a gift from God as is interpretation of tongues. If the language they were speaking isn't a normal language also known as the language of God or the spirit or even a prayer language it is more than possible that while God is giving one person the ability to speak it, he is also giving everyone else the ability to understand it. Much like when the disciples were first gifted with the Holy Spirit, the Bible says they went into the streets speaking and everyone heard what they were saying in their own native tongue
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 12:40 am
Friar Thomas gothic_black_rose Hizuma the Troublesome There was tongues. And there was an interpretation. Though like I said, I think everybody understood it without the interpretation. It was.... wow How can everyone understand it without an interpreter? God gave them the ability to understand it. Tongues is a gift from God as is interpretation of tongues. If the language they were speaking isn't a normal language also known as the language of God or the spirit or even a prayer language it is more than possible that while God is giving one person the ability to speak it, he is also giving everyone else the ability to understand it. Much like when the disciples were first gifted with the Holy Spirit, the Bible says they went into the streets speaking and everyone heard what they were saying in their own native tongue You are missusing that example. They spoke in the native tounge not speaking in tounges, which are obviously two different things. If speaking in tounges by your defintion "isn't a normal language" then how can it be native to them? Also not everyone has the gift of tounges. 1 Corinthians 14 Tongues and Prophecy 1 Let love be your highest goal! But you should also desire the special abilities the Spirit gives—especially the ability to prophesy. 2 For if you have the ability to speak in tongues,[a] you will be talking only to God, since people won’t be able to understand you. You will be speaking by the power of the Spirit, but it will all be mysterious. 3 But one who prophesies strengthens others, encourages them, and comforts them. 4 A person who speaks in tongues is strengthened personally, but one who speaks a word of prophecy strengthens the entire church. 5 I wish you could all speak in tongues, but even more I wish you could all prophesy. For prophecy is greater than speaking in tongues, unless someone interprets what you are saying so that the whole church will be strengthened. 6 Dear brothers and sisters, if I should come to you speaking in an unknown language,[c] how would that help you? But if I bring you a revelation or some special knowledge or prophecy or teaching, that will be helpful. 7 Even lifeless instruments like the flute or the harp must play the notes clearly, or no one will recognize the melody. 8 And if the bugler doesn’t sound a clear call, how will the soldiers know they are being called to battle?
9 It’s the same for you. If you speak to people in words they don’t understand, how will they know what you are saying? You might as well be talking into empty space.
10 There are many different languages in the world, and every language has meaning. 11 But if I don’t understand a language, I will be a foreigner to someone who speaks it, and the one who speaks it will be a foreigner to me. 12 And the same is true for you. Since you are so eager to have the special abilities the Spirit gives, seek those that will strengthen the whole church.
13 So anyone who speaks in tongues should pray also for the ability to interpret what has been said. 14 For if I pray in tongues, my spirit is praying, but I don’t understand what I am saying.
15 Well then, what shall I do? I will pray in the spirit,[d] and I will also pray in words I understand. I will sing in the spirit, and I will also sing in words I understand. 16 For if you praise God only in the spirit, how can those who don’t understand you praise God along with you? How can they join you in giving thanks when they don’t understand what you are saying? 17 You will be giving thanks very well, but it won’t strengthen the people who hear you.
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 1:22 am
Actually if I am correct, in the beginning of Acts, the disciples spoke in other tongues as the spirit gave utterance. Not sure how it happened that day, or the day of service. But I have never been used for interpretation, nor have many in my church. Yet i understood it perfectly. Was nerve-wracking
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Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 10:05 pm
Hizuma the Troublesome Actually if I am correct, in the beginning of Acts, the disciples spoke in other tongues as the spirit gave utterance. Not sure how it happened that day, or the day of service. But I have never been used for interpretation, nor have many in my church. Yet i understood it perfectly. Was nerve-wracking So what were they saying? You just like understood it? How do you know if you can do that?
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Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:24 pm
WHOA HOLD ON.
First of all let us not get into a theological debate regarding tongues.
For the purpose of this discussion Hizuma can I assume that you mean tongues as any language not previously spoken by that individual including (including tongues native to other members AND spiritual languages)?
Second
to those quoting acts.. if you use the definition above then the people in acts did in fact use the gift of tongues because Acts describes it as "Everyone heard the message in their native language" which implies that while they were speaking their own language everyone heard it in their own language which negated the need for an interpreter (which it may even be that the disciples didn't realize they were speaking in tongues)
Third
It is entirely correct that you should want an interpreter for the gift of tongues... HOWEVER please remember that Paul is giving his own personal advise to people... much like he says "it is better for you not to marry but..."
remember that Paul does not often say "This needs to be done this way or else"
Lastly
Tongues is a tricky gift. But a gift of the spirit none the less. In my opinion it is best to follow Paul's advise to have an interpreter. There have been many situations in which people have actually spoken in church and condemned the members but because there was no interpreter people simply thought it was the gift of tongues.
If you can understand the messages spoken I still say it is necessary for some who may not be filled at that point in time to understand.
This is my input thanks
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Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 9:00 pm
Friar Thomas WHOA HOLD ON. First of all let us not get into a theological debate regarding tongues. For the purpose of this discussion Hizuma can I assume that you mean tongues as any language not previously spoken by that individual including (including tongues native to other members AND spiritual languages)? Second to those quoting acts.. if you use the definition above then the people in acts did in fact use the gift of tongues because Acts describes it as "Everyone heard the message in their native language" which implies that while they were speaking their own language everyone heard it in their own language which negated the need for an interpreter (which it may even be that the disciples didn't realize they were speaking in tongues) Third It is entirely correct that you should want an interpreter for the gift of tongues... HOWEVER please remember that Paul is giving his own personal advise to people... much like he says "it is better for you not to marry but..." remember that Paul does not often say "This needs to be done this way or else" Lastly Tongues is a tricky gift. But a gift of the spirit none the less. In my opinion it is best to follow Paul's advise to have an interpreter. There have been many situations in which people have actually spoken in church and condemned the members but because there was no interpreter people simply thought it was the gift of tongues. If you can understand the messages spoken I still say it is necessary for some who may not be filled at that point in time to understand. This is my input thanks If it is Paul's advice then is it not God's for it says that God breathed the words that are written in scripture into the apostles and prophets?
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