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 Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 4:01 pm
This is a reminder to everyone, as well as a warning:
When the Shadow Clone jutsu is performed, it divides the user's chakra evenly into the original body and the clones'. From now on, if someone makes shadow clones and tries to perform a jutsu that costs more chakra then they have, the user will pass out or the clone will poof, whichever is the case. NO EXCEPTIONS! THIS IS YOUR ONLY WARNING.
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Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 4:05 pm
well thats just damn right stupid! when creatign a clone you put 30% chakra not half!
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Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 4:15 pm
No, the B rank is for training difficulty. It says in the description itself that it divides the chakra evenly, a fact many overlook. That's why I've had to point it out.
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Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 4:20 pm
so the types of bushin are different?
normal bushing learned at academy is giving the clone 10% of chakra and able to do 1 C ranked or D ranked justu
kage bushin is learned at chuunin i think or genin forgot and uses 30% of chakra giving is 3 justu to use before dispersing and B but not A ranked justus?
kinda like that??
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Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 4:23 pm
When Dealing With The Insane,
Honestly, no idea what Mint is saying. The original bunshin are Genjutsu, with the ability to do 0 jutsu. Kage Bunshin get one jutsu of any rank that the user knows. And once it is dispersed, Naruto gets his chakra and memories of the SC back. However, Elemental Clones take up whatever rank they are and can do one jutsu of that element, while they have only 1/10 the stamina/intel/endurance and what not.
The Best Method Is To Pretend To Be Sane.
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 7:18 am
Yeah, when the Kage Bunshin is dispelled, the user gets the unused chakra back, but it still costs them the 7 pts it costs to perform the B-rank jutsu.
However, I didn't think that elemental clones were allowed to use jutsu. they don't get any chakra split off into them, so how could they?
I thought it was like this:
E-rank Basic Non-elemental Bunshin = Genjutsu, can't do anything.
E-rank Basic Elemental clones = 1/10 strength of user, can attack and defend at user's command and has same inventory as the user. (poofs on hit)
Kage Bunshin = Full strength of user, chakra split between all clones, can use 1 of any jutsu the user knows. (Poofs on hit) ... at which point chakra and what not are returned.
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:42 am
What about the Mizuhada Bunshin no jutsu, it's supposed to be the exactly the same as the person that created it, albeit it still poofs after a good solid hit. But shouldn't it be able to perform jutsu and such despite not being a Kage Bunshin?
Mizuhada Bunshin No Jutsu (Water Body Clone Technique)
Rank:B
Range:N/A
Description: A powerful enhancement of the Water Reflection clone, this technique creates a number of full-powered water clones and does not require a body of water. These clones have the full Chakra and Mental abilities of the user, as well as Physical ability. A solid hit will destroy the clone.
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:52 am
When Dealing With The Insane,
Your all making valid points, and if we go off of the canon and what not, then the elementals can use any technique of their element that their user knows, ONCE. After that, they turn into their respective elements. There was a special created by the guys from Naruto, and they go and fight a water user. The clone turns into water when hit, and can use umpteen water attacks. However, to make it fair, the guild should use the rule of ONE jutsu.
Lance: Those were created to be a substitute for the Shadow Clone, so all rules for SC's should apply to them.
The Best Method Is To Pretend To Be Sane.
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:55 am
Really? I had no idea, that's interesting.
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 10:09 am
Deep Insaniity When Dealing With The Insane,
Your all making valid points, and if we go off of the canon and what not, then the elementals can use any technique of their element that their user knows, ONCE. After that, they turn into their respective elements. There was a special created by the guys from Naruto, and they go and fight a water user. The clone turns into water when hit, and can use umpteen water attacks. However, to make it fair, the guild should use the rule of ONE jutsu.
Lance: Those were created to be a substitute for the Shadow Clone, so all rules for SC's should apply to them.
The Best Method Is To Pretend To Be Sane.
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 10:10 am
When Dealing With The Insane,
The only reason that it isn't a Shadow Clone, is that it can't relay the memories and information that the Clone obtained. That's all ^-^
EDIT:
Cobra: Yeah. One single jutsu, then it turns into a puddle, whis of hot air(Lightning), burst of fire(Katon), pebbles(Earth) or air(Futon).
The Best Method Is To Pretend To Be Sane.
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 10:51 am
Deep Insaniity When Dealing With The Insane,
The only reason that it isn't a Shadow Clone, is that it can't relay the memories and information that the Clone obtained. That's all ^-^
EDIT:
Cobra: Yeah. One single jutsu, then it turns into a puddle, whis of hot air(Lightning), burst of fire(Katon), pebbles(Earth) or air(Futon).
The Best Method Is To Pretend To Be Sane.
...and is the jutsu's power reduced since its coming from a clone?
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:02 am
When Dealing With The Insane,
I'd say a max of 10 clones, they can use a technique up to whatever amount of chakra you put in them, but it is half of the regular power.
That would be fair...
The Best Method Is To Pretend To Be Sane.
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:41 am
Yeah, that sounds balanced. I'll make the changes to the various clones.
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 2:35 pm
Cobra_X Yeah, when the Kage Bunshin is dispelled, the user gets the unused chakra back, but it still costs them the 7 pts it costs to perform the B-rank jutsu.
False, because if this was the case, then Naruto's strategy of against Neji wouldn't have worked. Neji thought that Naruto was the one hiding outside the masses of clones, when really he was mixed in with the rest. But, since the chakra is distributed evenly, he couldn't tell. If what you say is true, then every time Neji killed a clone, then the real Naruto would have glowed brighter with more chakra, and given him away. But the fact is, you lose the chakra when the clone is destroyed. That's why Neji was fooled. That's also why Kakashi doesn't use the technique often.
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