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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:24 am


here is the article,she was so mad when it happened,which is understandable,diseases and things can be passed through breast milk,and they were trying to cover it up Julien her baby is her world,she loves him so much,so she got on the news.
PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:55 pm


I would be scared if that happened to my baby. Like you said, there is the potential for disease transmission. And I would be pissed that they tried to cover it up.

But really?
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"I know they have donated breast milk and wet nurses but that's gross," says Love. "If he's going to have anybody's milk he's going to have mine or he's going to have formula."

That is an awful thing to say.

Formula is absolutely not supposed to be given to babies unless the mother cannot breastfeed for medical reasons. It says that right on the canisters and in fine print on the commercials.

When a mother cannot breastfeed, she has a hard choice to make. She can do formula or she can use another woman's breast milk. If the mother can get another woman's safe and screened breast milk, that is usually the healthier option.

It is not gross. It is screened for disease. So I think it's appalling that your friend would say that and would say she wouldn't even consider giving her baby another woman's breast milk simply because she finds the completely safe, natural, and healthy option to be "gross."

Not to mention that babies are ideally supposed to be breastfed. That means drinking breast milk from a breast, not a bottle. Bottle feeding is bad for their mouth and jaw.

So I don't doubt that your friend loves her baby. But she really should get her facts straight about neonatal nutrition and development before she goes around saying ridiculous and offensive things and not even doing what is recommended for her baby's health to begin with.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:09 pm


well,so far his first test have came back negative so thats good,but its the principal of the thing,if the teacher hadnt told,this could have happened again,with tragic consequences,as far as breast milk thing goes,shes a first time mom,and the baby is her world,when we were little growing up all she wanted to be when she was an adult was a mother,and so I understand her concern,she was only saying the formula thing cause her pediatrician said that if she didnt produce enough milk he might have to have some of it,but she does produce enough,she doesnt really think its gross,thats just what came out,she understands why people do it,but she doesnt want her baby to do that,so that she knows for certainly where it comes from.
PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:03 pm



Is she even sure it's really her baby at this point?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 9:50 am


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Is she even sure it's really her baby at this point?
lol if I understand that the way I think its supposed to be (as in is she sure the daycare didnt give her someone elses baby by accident) then yea,she is,I guess the director resigned after that,shes getting bashed like crazy,but I think that if it happened to anyone else,most of them would worry,its not like shes trying to sue for millions or anything,all she wants is to get her money back for the childcare,cause she pulled him out of it,and to be reimbursed for the tests it took to check him out.
PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:43 pm



Yeah, that's the way I meant it =P It really is the principal of the thing that matters in this case. If they can't keep track of something as simple as who's breast milk is who's, then how can you expect them to take care of important things? What is one of the babies has an allergy and they get the wrong food that has an allergen in it? You can't just go switching things up like that without permission, this could have been a lot more serious than another woman's breast milk.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:03 pm


i would be so pissed. its horrible that that would happen
PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:36 pm


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I would be scared if that happened to my baby. Like you said, there is the potential for disease transmission. And I would be pissed that they tried to cover it up.

But really?
Quote:
"I know they have donated breast milk and wet nurses but that's gross," says Love. "If he's going to have anybody's milk he's going to have mine or he's going to have formula."

That is an awful thing to say.

Formula is absolutely not supposed to be given to babies unless the mother cannot breastfeed for medical reasons. It says that right on the canisters and in fine print on the commercials.

When a mother cannot breastfeed, she has a hard choice to make. She can do formula or she can use another woman's breast milk. If the mother can get another woman's safe and screened breast milk, that is usually the healthier option.

It is not gross. It is screened for disease. So I think it's appalling that your friend would say that and would say she wouldn't even consider giving her baby another woman's breast milk simply because she finds the completely safe, natural, and healthy option to be "gross."

Not to mention that babies are ideally supposed to be breastfed. That means drinking breast milk from a breast, not a bottle. Bottle feeding is bad for their mouth and jaw.

So I don't doubt that your friend loves her baby. But she really should get her facts straight about neonatal nutrition and development before she goes around saying ridiculous and offensive things and not even doing what is recommended for her baby's health to begin with.


Maybe it was an overreaction to say anyone else's milk is "gross" but I don't think it's "offensive", it's understandable that she was upset, this wasn't a planned donation of carefully screened milk, it was some random stranger's milk. It could have had ANYTHING in it. What if the baby was allergic to lactose and needed special formula and had been given the milk? What I find ridiculous is when people get so opinionated and judgmental about what other people choose to feed their own babies.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 11:19 am


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If they can't keep track of something as simple as who's breast milk is who's, then how can you expect them to take care of important things?
especially since it was CLEARLY labeled with his name,I will keep you guys updated on the next set of tests,but I think its in like 3 months that she has to have them done, shes now in Washington,not here in OR so I will try to remember.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 12:54 pm


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Maybe it was an overreaction to say anyone else's milk is "gross" but I don't think it's "offensive", it's understandable that she was upset, this wasn't a planned donation of carefully screened milk, it was some random stranger's milk. It could have had ANYTHING in it. What if the baby was allergic to lactose and needed special formula and had been given the milk?

But she didn't say that what happened was gross. I would have understood if she had that.

She said it's gross when people feed their baby donated, screened, and safe milk. That's out of line and ignorant.

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What I find ridiculous is when people get so opinionated and judgmental about what other people choose to feed their own babies.

What babies are fed is extremely important. Babies need breast milk if they can get it, and they need it from a breast if at all possible.

Formula has been linked to a wide variety of health problems and should only be used when there are no other safe options (some women can't breastfeed due to disease, medication, not producing enough milk, etc). And bottles (even when filled with breast milk) don't give the same benefits (jaw development, mouth and tongue control, etc.) as breasts.

So people are right to judge women who physically could breastfeed yet choose not to. Because those women are putting their baby's health at risk for their own personal convenience.

What bothers me about this woman is that she's judging other people and calling them gross when they're doing the healthiest option available to them. And what she is doing is not the healthiest option. If she is physically able to give her baby breast milk from her breast, not from a bottle, then that is what she needs to be doing.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 2:54 pm


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Maybe it was an overreaction to say anyone else's milk is "gross" but I don't think it's "offensive", it's understandable that she was upset, this wasn't a planned donation of carefully screened milk, it was some random stranger's milk. It could have had ANYTHING in it. What if the baby was allergic to lactose and needed special formula and had been given the milk?

But she didn't say that what happened was gross. I would have understood if she had that.

She said it's gross when people feed their baby donated, screened, and safe milk. That's out of line and ignorant.

imderanged
What I find ridiculous is when people get so opinionated and judgmental about what other people choose to feed their own babies.

What babies are fed is extremely important. Babies need breast milk if they can get it, and they need it from a breast if at all possible.

Formula has been linked to a wide variety of health problems and should only be used when there are no other safe options (some women can't breastfeed due to disease, medication, not producing enough milk, etc). And bottles (even when filled with breast milk) don't give the same benefits (jaw development, mouth and tongue control, etc.) as breasts.

So people are right to judge women who physically could breastfeed yet choose not to. Because those women are putting their baby's health at risk for their own personal convenience.

What bothers me about this woman is that she's judging other people and calling them gross when they're doing the healthiest option available to them. And what she is doing is not the healthiest option. If she is physically able to give her baby breast milk from her breast, not from a bottle, then that is what she needs to be doing.


I still think whether or not to breast feed is a very personal decision and none of anyone else's business. While complaining about the woman 'judging' other's choices, you are judging the woman in question claiming she is not doing what she "needs" to be doing. Obviously she IS feeding the child breast milk, but apparently she also needs to use child care services at times. What does she "need" to do when she child is in day care and needs to eat? Not everyone can be there 24 hours a day for round the clock feedings.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 5:10 pm


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imderanged

Maybe it was an overreaction to say anyone else's milk is "gross" but I don't think it's "offensive", it's understandable that she was upset, this wasn't a planned donation of carefully screened milk, it was some random stranger's milk. It could have had ANYTHING in it. What if the baby was allergic to lactose and needed special formula and had been given the milk?

But she didn't say that what happened was gross. I would have understood if she had that.

She said it's gross when people feed their baby donated, screened, and safe milk. That's out of line and ignorant.

imderanged
What I find ridiculous is when people get so opinionated and judgmental about what other people choose to feed their own babies.

What babies are fed is extremely important. Babies need breast milk if they can get it, and they need it from a breast if at all possible.

Formula has been linked to a wide variety of health problems and should only be used when there are no other safe options (some women can't breastfeed due to disease, medication, not producing enough milk, etc). And bottles (even when filled with breast milk) don't give the same benefits (jaw development, mouth and tongue control, etc.) as breasts.

So people are right to judge women who physically could breastfeed yet choose not to. Because those women are putting their baby's health at risk for their own personal convenience.

What bothers me about this woman is that she's judging other people and calling them gross when they're doing the healthiest option available to them. And what she is doing is not the healthiest option. If she is physically able to give her baby breast milk from her breast, not from a bottle, then that is what she needs to be doing.
Im sure she didnt really mean gross,thats just what came out,cause we actually talked about it,shes very upset about the situation,and to her,she doesnt want other womans breast milk in her baby,especially if she doesnt know where it comes from,and what if any diseases the woman had. She does understand why its done,she DOES breast feed Julien when she can,but her maternity leave is up,and she was forced to go back to work,so she pumps it for when shes at work,and breast feeds him at home.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 6:42 pm


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I still think whether or not to breast feed is a very personal decision and none of anyone else's business.

You honestly think it should be a personal decision whether or not you do what is best for your child? So in your eyes it's perfectly ok to say, "Meh, I don't feel like doing what doctors and researchers say is best for my baby. I'll just do whatever is more convenient for me." I certainly hope you never have children.

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Not everyone can be there 24 hours a day for round the clock feedings.

Honestly, if I didn't have enough time to provide a baby with that most basic and necessary care, I don't think I'd have one.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:15 pm


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imderanged

I still think whether or not to breast feed is a very personal decision and none of anyone else's business.

You honestly think it should be a personal decision whether or not you do what is best for your child? So in your eyes it's perfectly ok to say, "Meh, I don't feel like doing what doctors and researchers say is best for my baby. I'll just do whatever is more convenient for me." I certainly hope you never have children.

imderanged
Not everyone can be there 24 hours a day for round the clock feedings.

Honestly, if I didn't have enough time to provide a baby with that most basic and necessary care, I don't think I'd have one.


Some mothers have to work or go to school, or have other responsibilities outside the home. That's just the way it is. Do you really think that if you become a mother and are able to breastfeed that there will be no time when it may become necessary to pump milk and feed it from a bottle? You are NEVER going to leave the child with a sitter, even a close relative, for a few hours? Good for you. Myself, I can't have babies. If I ever did decide I wanted to be a mother, I would have to adopt. Since there are only 11 milk banks in North America, you need a prescription to get the milk, and it can cost $4 an OZ. , I'd probably have to resort to formula.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:05 pm


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imderanged

I still think whether or not to breast feed is a very personal decision and none of anyone else's business.

You honestly think it should be a personal decision whether or not you do what is best for your child? So in your eyes it's perfectly ok to say, "Meh, I don't feel like doing what doctors and researchers say is best for my baby. I'll just do whatever is more convenient for me." I certainly hope you never have children.

imderanged
Not everyone can be there 24 hours a day for round the clock feedings.

Honestly, if I didn't have enough time to provide a baby with that most basic and necessary care, I don't think I'd have one.


i plan on breastfeeding my future child until its 2 or 3 and im pretty sure i wont be around the thing every second of the day in case its hungry.

plus as long as its decently healthy then it should be fine. its like dog food brands. yes evo, raw, and things like that are the best but it someone uses purina its still fine, just not prefered. it wont kill the dog and formula wont kill the baby
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