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 Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:34 pm
This topic came to mind from today, my sister took my mom and me out to lunch, and it was windy. My mum has an ear infection, so i told her to wrap up, and i went to put a headscarf on her, to protect her ear. And she starts to swap at me like "NO! I may look like a Muslim, I dont want the scarf!" I dont think she tried to hurt my feelings, but it made my eyes well up with tears. I highly doubt anyone would mistake an old white lady as a Muslim just because of a headscarf... Not related: I hate when ignorant Americans call a headscarf a "head-dress" Usually those closed minded right wingers. All I can think is...they do sell headscarves in your local K-Mart, even in the most hillbilly of towns stare  Can you tell the difference between a Christian and a Jew? Can you tell a Muslim by looks when you see one?
What about other religions?
If you were mistaken to be someone from another religion, would that send you into an outrage?
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:58 pm
I think women in Hijabs are beautiful.
I wouldn't care if someone mistook me for a Muslim, or anything else. *shrug*
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:23 pm
Call Me Apple Not related: I hate when ignorant Americans call a headscarf a "head-dress" Usually those closed minded right wingers. All I can think is...they do sell headscarves in your local K-Mart, even in the most hillbilly of towns stare What's wrong with calling it a headdress and how does it make someone close minded?
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:49 pm
Semiremis Call Me Apple Not related: I hate when ignorant Americans call a headscarf a "head-dress" Usually those closed minded right wingers. All I can think is...they do sell headscarves in your local K-Mart, even in the most hillbilly of towns stare What's wrong with calling it a headdress and how does it make someone close minded? hijab is most appropriate
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:02 pm
I don't think I've ever seen them in my Wal Mart.
But I don't know what I'd say if someone mistook me for another religion. I'd probably make a face and say, "I'm not Christian (or whatever), I'm Pagan."
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:02 pm
Semiremis Call Me Apple Not related: I hate when ignorant Americans call a headscarf a "head-dress" Usually those closed minded right wingers. All I can think is...they do sell headscarves in your local K-Mart, even in the most hillbilly of towns stare What's wrong with calling it a headdress and how does it make someone close minded? Its not anywhere near a headdress, its a headscarf. Google "headdress" and see what you get. Pictures of Native Americans. It makes someone closed minded because they cant call it a scarf, they call it a headdress, a burka, things which its not. People call it this to link it to Islam specifically, when anyone may wear a headscarf.
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:03 pm
Aakosir I don't think I've ever seen them in my Wal Mart.
But I don't know what I'd say if someone mistook me for another religion. I'd probably make a face and say, "I'm not Christian (or whatever), I'm Pagan." Go to the area with the purses, i have bought most of mine from wal-mart. All it is is a headscarf.
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:34 pm
Call Me Apple Aakosir I don't think I've ever seen them in my Wal Mart.
But I don't know what I'd say if someone mistook me for another religion. I'd probably make a face and say, "I'm not Christian (or whatever), I'm Pagan." Go to the area with the purses, i have bought most of mine from wal-mart. All it is is a headscarf.
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:54 pm
Aakosir Call Me Apple Aakosir I don't think I've ever seen them in my Wal Mart.
But I don't know what I'd say if someone mistook me for another religion. I'd probably make a face and say, "I'm not Christian (or whatever), I'm Pagan." Go to the area with the purses, i have bought most of mine from wal-mart. All it is is a headscarf. Google 'arab headdress' and it's on the first page though. It technically works as a descriptive word although not the best one. @Call Me Apple, the reason I asked was because it seemed strange that its usage was so problematic to you. I was wondering if I was missing something, like if it was used in a derogatory manner or just wasn't pc. Back to the main issue, I don't understand why someone would get so upset over head scarfs, members of my family wear them...it's not just a Muslim thing.
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:01 pm
Semiremis @Call Me Apple, the reason I asked was because it seemed strange that its usage was so problematic to you. I was wondering if I was missing something, like if it was used in a derogatory manner or just wasn't pc. Back to the main issue, I don't understand why someone would get so upset over head scarfs, members of my family wear them...it's not just a Muslim thing. Word usage is very important in our society. And I feel that they use improper words to alienate Muslim women. Like...which women sounds more different: A woman wearing a headscarf, a woman wearing a burka, or a woman wearing a headdress. A hijab (headscarf) is none of the 2 latter. Yet people in political parties, on the news, who are supposed to INFORM use these wrong words to describe a Muslim woman and a hijab. I feel that SOME obviously biased sources, use these terms on purpose. To alienate Muslims from the average American society. Am I conveying my feelings better? EDIT: When I google "Arab Headdress" I get a keffiyeh, which is something that Saudi men wear .____. Not a hijab/headscarf.
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:45 pm
I miss the Middle East, it's the only place in the world where I can wear a headscarf and not be stared at emo
Thought I should share that.
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Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:04 am
Anyone can wear a headscarf, for religious modesty, or just for fashion. Of course, if I went out in a headscarf for fashion purposes only, people would still assume I was Muslim because I "look Muslim". But I don't think it would be the same for your mom. Either way, I can see why it upset you. Being mistaken for a Muslim shouldn't be a horrible thing!
I wouldn't care if people mistook me for another religion, and they have in the past.
Lol, people call it a headdress all the time! It makes me laugh, because it conjures up a really weird mental image... but it's annoying when people call every single kind of covering, even just a scarf, even one that's not covering all the hair a "burka".
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Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:01 pm
Call Me Apple This topic came to mind from today, my sister took my mom and me out to lunch, and it was windy. My mum has an ear infection, so i told her to wrap up, and i went to put a headscarf on her, to protect her ear. And she starts to swap at me like "NO! I may look like a Muslim, I dont want the scarf!" I dont think she tried to hurt my feelings, but it made my eyes well up with tears. I highly doubt anyone would mistake an old white lady as a Muslim just because of a headscarf... Not related: I hate when ignorant Americans call a headscarf a "head-dress" Usually those closed minded right wingers. All I can think is...they do sell headscarves in your local K-Mart, even in the most hillbilly of towns stare Can you tell the difference between a Christian and a Jew? Can you tell a Muslim by looks when you see one?
What about other religions?
If you were mistaken to be someone from another religion, would that send you into an outrage? I can tell the difference between a Chassidic Jew and a Christian. But that's about it. I'm sure that most people on the street assume I'm a Christian. It's okay with me, as long as they don't call me a Christian. Because when people call me a Christian, I freak the sh*t out.
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Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:08 pm
Call Me Apple Semiremis @Call Me Apple, the reason I asked was because it seemed strange that its usage was so problematic to you. I was wondering if I was missing something, like if it was used in a derogatory manner or just wasn't pc. Back to the main issue, I don't understand why someone would get so upset over head scarfs, members of my family wear them...it's not just a Muslim thing. Word usage is very important in our society. And I feel that they use improper words to alienate Muslim women. Like...which women sounds more different: A woman wearing a headscarf, a woman wearing a burka, or a woman wearing a headdress. I can understand the frustration if it's being used to alienate Muslim women, I just don't get why you think that's the case here, I've never seen it used that way. Muslim women are different from Christian women in certain ways, they believe different things, why is different bad? Quote: A hijab (headscarf) is none of the 2 latter. Yet people in political parties, on the news, who are supposed to INFORM use these wrong words to describe a Muslim woman and a hijab. I feel that SOME obviously biased sources, use these terms on purpose. To alienate Muslims from the average American society. If that's the case then I agree with you but for me headscarf and headdress resonate on the same level, the latter doesn't conjure up any separate feelings. Quote: Am I conveying my feelings better? Yeah, I gotcha. What you're saying is understandable, I just don't completely agree with you on this one. Quote: EDIT: When I google "Arab Headdress" I get a keffiyeh, which is something that Saudi men wear .____. Not a hijab/headscarf. When I Google that I get both (I guess it isn't on the first page though, I thought it was, my bad), a google definition search comes up with a definition that would cover both. The main point is that the definition fits, so calling someone ignorant over it seems a bit misplaced. Would this site be offensive to you: http://www.cbc.ca/news/interactives/who-muslimheadscarves/ Are they ignorant for using the word headdress to cover the type of head scarfs found?
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Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:56 pm
Lumanny the Space Jew I can tell the difference between a Chassidic Jew and a Christian. But that's about it. I'm sure that most people on the street assume I'm a Christian. It's okay with me, as long as they don't call me a Christian. Because when people call me a Christian, I freak the sh*t out. You're ridiculously funny rofl
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