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Would you say the reason America is so conservative about nudity and cursing on tv and less open about drugs and prostitutes (yup) because we were a nation based off of Christianity?

I was just wonder of what others thought. I think it does play a role in why Americans are the way they are. Maybe a better question is ...How is religion shaping America?

In a democracy, the country will generally exhibit the traits of the largest voting groups. Christians who vote based on their religious beliefs are one of those very large groups. As long as an issue is put to a vote, you can be sure that bloc will have a say, same as any other.

I disagree.

In the UK after like 11pm or so, cursing and nudity is allowed. Becuase by then kids have been sent to bed. Is that country full of raving psychos? No.

And England is home of the CoE, and there is a still a huge following for the CoE as well as Roman Catholicism.

American wants to claim we're "secular" all they bloody want, but this country is nowhere near secular. They want to have Christian values and make the country follow them, that is not being secular.

I think it's mostly about politicians exploiting the "think of the children!" technique a bit too much.

Defensive one, you are. I was not condescending at all, but I am sorry you feel that way.

That's fine and dandy for the UK, but I was simply stating that I don't think it's appropriate for things such as cursing and nudity to be on television.

And also, America gives the right for religious freedom, so we can all choose to act according to what our conscience tells us and if our religion influences us to act a certain way then it's not a bad thing.

Please don't start with that... Just because she only commented on the condescending thing doesn't mean that that was all she took from your post. Please don't start drama over it. Also, you should not assume one way or the other about what people think about your intelligence just because they state something that was not previously mentioned in a conversation. Please don't take offence for my intrusion in your little pity-party for lack of a better term. I just don't want to have to read you two bickering rather than debating and discussing the topic....

Regardless of all of that we are a predominatly Christian nation and yes that has alot to do with being conservative. I personally think that people should be allowed to have nudity/ cursing ect.. in their tv shows and movies for the pure and simple fact that it can be a part of their art. Parents are able to block channels so that there children won't have access to those things and it should be up to them to take responsibility for that. Also it's like it was previously mentioned in this discussion that if you don't agree with something on the tv then turn it off or change the channel.

I was going to leave it as a mutual pity, but here I am. This is the last I'm going to deal with this, so if you wanna discuss it pm me.


OFF TOPIC:While I understand you don't want to see a "pity party" or "drama", I don't feel it's appropriate to the discussion to get lofty. It has nothing to do with intelligence; it has to do with the fact she assumed people don't know their own history when she was purporting a folktale as factual. Then when I correct her (she can actually use the television to find people who support what I've observed) and address something, she decides to speak like Yoda (it kinda supports the condescending assertion).


ON TOPIC: I believe there is a statistic somewhere that purports that most people in the US define themselves as "conservative". While it doesn't go into exactly what type of conservative it adds an interesting perspective. How many of these conservatives are actually defining themselves as Christian?

That is one thing I find interesting about what people consider conservative Christianity. How does one compromise the idea of "freedom of _____" with Christian ideals? How does the freedom of speech work when people try to censor what they see on television with Christian values? If people want the government to essentially censor out "obscenity" how is it defined? If it's deemed offensive? What if someone finds a Christian channel offensive? And at what point is the individual responsible for cesnorship?