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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:34 am


I was sent a chain mail a while ago that had some depressing pictures. The most depressing was this one.

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What does your religion say about war? I'm pretty sure there was war in the biblical times and there were holy crusades and everything. I know war is not right, but is that? That picture makes me cry every time I see it...
PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:35 am


I just noticed this! That girl in the back is standing on the American flag!!!!! How disrespectful are these people!

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:14 am


Hooray for the Westboro Baptist Church. ( http://www.godhatesfags.com/ ).

They're ******** nuts. Or maybe they're just taking trolling to the max.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 3:23 pm


Westboro is disgusting. I equate them with Christianity in the same way I equate a pile of steaming hot fecal matter with a delicious steak with a side of potatoes. The connection is there, but.. You get my point.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 5:22 pm


I hope this is just a sick joke. 0_0
PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 5:44 pm


Thats just horrid... I wasn't able to vote in the poll though because my answer would have been under certain circumstances it is right... though the way it is done by all so far, that I can think of at the moment is wrong... I also thing that it's involvment with religion is based on the religion... any religion that teaches peace should be against war, they should still have armies of course, but only to defend themselves... on the other hand if one has a violent religion, lets just say for instance if a group of people worshipped Ares then it would fit in perfectly religion.... asto it being right: only when it is not used for selfish means.... which is hardly ever because it is always for selfish means...

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 1:14 am


I think the wolrd would be a better place if we all just ignored them. Giving them attention is only fueling their hateful fire. I'm sick of hearing about them.
PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 3:46 am


I don't know if anyone knows this but their family is made up of lawyers and the head of the cult, Fred Phelps, started off by fighting for African Americans in the civil rights movement. They use to get things thrown at them and at their house and had their lives threatened a lot, actually they still see the violence today. When they were out protesting one of their kids got hit with something someone through at them out of a car.

I'm not supporting the WBC I feel bad for them, for their kids especially who are being brought up in such hate, I think what they are promoting now is just wrong, biblically and morally.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:02 am


This is seriously atrocious. No religion ever condones war.
PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 5:34 am


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This is seriously atrocious. No religion ever condones war.


Religion condones anything people want it to condone. Simple as that.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 5:41 am


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This is seriously atrocious. No religion ever condones war.


Religion condones anything people want it to condone. Simple as that.


It's one of the reasons that I left religion alone, I didn't want anything to do with it because of things like this.
PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 3:26 pm


It's Westboro Baptist Church. They are attention whores to the max. The only thing that makes them Christian is that they believe in Jesus as a figure for salvation. I don't accept them as Christian because their teachings are anathema to the core of Christianity and teach of a god that is not of the nature that Christ spoke and taught. There is nothing loving about what they are doing.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 3:33 pm


RurouniZakku
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This is seriously atrocious. No religion ever condones war.


Religion condones anything people want it to condone. Simple as that.


It's one of the reasons that I left religion alone, I didn't want anything to do with it because of things like this.
I had that attitude at one point myself. I realized though if I didn't feel someone was justified I needed to speak out against them. That is my only regret in leaving the United Methodist Church is that I didn't have the courage to speak up. At least now I've learned from my mistake.
PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 3:45 pm


rmcdra
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This is seriously atrocious. No religion ever condones war.


Religion condones anything people want it to condone. Simple as that.


It's one of the reasons that I left religion alone, I didn't want anything to do with it because of things like this.
I had that attitude at one point myself. I realized though if I didn't feel someone was justified I needed to speak out against them. That is my only regret in leaving the United Methodist Church is that I didn't have the courage to speak up. At least now I've learned from my mistake.

Yes, but it's not only this church, there have been several times the church executed somebody for researching the solar system, or for blasphemy. The only reason we don't see that now is because the church has lost most of it's power.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 5:09 pm


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Yes, but it's not only this church, there have been several times the church executed somebody for researching the solar system, or for blasphemy.

The Church charged him with heresy because he lied about remaining neutral on a text he was commissioned by the Church to write while the Church was trying to verify the truth of Heliocentricism and Galileo did a crappy job at supporting it using the ocean tides as evidence. The bulk of opposition to Helliocentricism came from those in the Protestantism movement who held a strict stance of Sola Scriptura.
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The only reason we don't see that now is because the church has lost most of it's power.
Or rather because Catholicism and most branches of Christianity recognizes the truth of science, hell it even states it in the Catechism.
Catechism of the Catholic Church 159

Faith and science: "Though faith is above reason, there can never be any real discrepancy between faith and reason. Since the same God who reveals mysteries and infuses faith has bestowed the light of reason on the human mind, God cannot deny himself, nor can truth ever contradict truth. "Consequently, methodical research in all branches of knowledge, provided it is carried out in a truly scientific manner and does not override moral laws, can never conflict with the faith, because the things of the world and the things of faith derive from the same God. The humble and persevering investigator of the secrets of nature is being led, as it were, by the hand of God in spite of himself, for it is God, the conserver of all things, who made them what they are."

And there's the issue that most first world governments recognize a separation of Church and State thus try not to let issues of religion influence politics though it unfortunately happens (US being a prime example).
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