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 Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 1:06 pm
This used to be a topic dedicated to Wiccans having to initiated into a Coven, but I decided this will be combined with the "Wicca-from a founder..." that thread had to be locked for the good of man.
Anyways speak you mind, but remember in here someone will probably argue with you.....
No Personal Attacks Please Or You Will Be Banned From The Guild.
I am not going to start off with my opinions, I want to hear a few of yours, then I will join in.
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 2:19 pm
i think that if someone meets all the requirements for being a Wiccan (except for being in a coven), then they should be called Wiccan. i know this argument'll get tired eventually, but a lot of Solitaries are qualified to be Wiccans, but don't have access to a coven. those people shouldn't be excluded just because they live in the middle of nowhere.
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 2:41 pm
I've always been solitary. I haven't known any other way. I'm open to the latter, though.
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:30 pm
freedome and self thinking is what wicca is about so why discriminate on those who arnt in a covent
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 7:37 pm
I'd have to agree with being a Wiccan without a coven. I live in the middle of no where Washington. I do not have a choice in whether im in a coven or not. I believe it is because of the Wiccan initiation. Most feels only a coven can preform an initiation, but I believe one can iniatiate themselves.
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Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:21 am
While there is the debate between "initiated" and "dedicated" I fail to see how one means you can call yourself Wiccan and the other means you can't. While there is a difference in what they are, it doesn't seem like something that should mean you can call yourself whatever you want if you have been through one but not the other.
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Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:19 am
I agree. I mean in my area there aren't many wiccans, and i was just lucky to have a friend who could teach me about it, but she's leaving, and i'm kinda stuck on my own. if we did have a coven, it was a coven of two, and we didn't really do anything... we only talked about it online. I think that if you are practicing on your own, even if you weren't innitiated, you're wiccan. period.
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Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:40 pm
What is this about Coven's? As far as I know. Just about every other belief. States that you are a Christian etc. If you believe in the key points of the religion. So, why would joining a cult of sorts. Make a person a real Wiccan? Over someone that actually practices the teachings of the belief?
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Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:17 pm
LanceCalvis What is this about Coven's? As far as I know. Just about every other belief. States that you are a Christian etc. If you believe in the key points of the religion. So, why would joining a cult of sorts. Make a person a real Wiccan? Over someone that actually practices the teachings of the belief? because they think that you need to be part of something, a coven is like a church basically. they try to make you go to church to be a christian, telling you that you need to be part of church to be truly connected to god. Its the prospect of joining others. In my oppinion, things like this is a coven, for we are a group of wiccans practicing together, however that's just my oppinion.
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Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:09 pm
I was actually shocked, and take back a lot of bashing I did on Scott Cunningham. I was reading today in one of his bboks about Wiccans. He says that most sects of Wicca require a coven-like initiation, but he didn't quite believe in that. He asked one question everyone should chew on, "who initiated the first Wiccan?" I think that is a very good point, who did? And who declared the initation rule, or that a Wiccan can't be a solitary?
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 3:30 am
KasaChan I was actually shocked, and take back a lot of bashing I did on Scott Cunningham. I was reading today in one of his bboks about Wiccans. He says that most sects of Wicca require a coven-like initiation, but he didn't quite believe in that. He asked one question everyone should chew on, "who initiated the first Wiccan?" I think that is a very good point, who did? And who declared the initation rule, or that a Wiccan can't be a solitary? exactly? i think its another example of people trying to make their religion exculsive, like you NEED this this and this... almost all religions do it...
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:27 pm
is it possible that they're trying to keep out people they either don't like or don't want to deal with?
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Dsay Valentine Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:06 pm
im glad we all agree. i think it shouldnt matter if you are in a coven or not, circumstances and other things may not allow you to join one (like a few of ours). anyone who says otherwise is talking out of their butt.
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:21 pm
out of their butt indeed. (im actually a little sad we don't have any opposing views to this at the moment.)
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Dsay Valentine Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:37 pm
well here then
GRRR IF YOU ARENT IN A COVEN YOU ARE A FLUFFY BUNNY!!!
you know, you could invite him to the guild so we can argue with him all day.....
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