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Zantetsken

PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 9:37 pm


I keep neglecting practise, and even just art in general lately... I'm gonna try to draw/post a new picture everyday. There are so many problems with my art... I joined this guild to improve, so I'll try to put a better effort into that now.

Please be as harsh as you want with your critique - it won't hurt my feelings.
If you want me to draw your avatar, you can go ahead and ask, but I probably won't go into great detail and I might exclude a bunch of the items you're wearing. Also, don't expect that I WILL draw your avatar.

Not that I think I'm that good, but please don't post blind praise. Saying something like "looks good" won't help me improve. Pointing out specific things you think are well done helps, though.

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I know the pencil shading didn't turn out well here, so I'll use a brush tool next time.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:28 pm


Well, the face and head are alright, just make the hair smoother.
The separate locks of hair:

- the part with the nets are fine, but the parts entering the area and exiting should at least be a bit puffed up to show how compact the netted parts are.

Let the shoulders slope down gently, too.
It's kinda hard for me to explain with words, but I can suggest the tutorial and help desk, they may help more.
And - eerr.>_>". Not so extreme, but nudity still - some ref from dA..

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Mortis Angelus

PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 11:00 pm


Well, let's see:

1)Unless she's going to karate chop you into submission, you might want to make her hand into a fist and spread her feet apart to match her facial [removed](she looks embarressed, she might want to hit someone); most of the time the body language is matching facial expression. With a blank expression, you convey emotions through body language: defensive = arms crossed, anger = clenched fists, relaxed = sloped shoulders and relaxed pose, submissive = hands behind back.

2) hair ties are braided into the hair, you might want to look up braiding.

3) her hip is too pointy. You could round it out some.

4) wrinkles in fabric. You should go to the help/tutorials for that.
PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 6:43 pm


Oh hey there smile
Well, the hands look a bit awkward.
She looks kinda off in the butt/hip area (I'm think that it should be a bit more curved)
I also think that the skirt is a good start but I think think should look smoother.

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deeds_13

PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 6:48 pm


Oh yeah if you want to draw my avatar feel more then welcome too smile
PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 9:45 pm


Blargh, I fell asleep soon after coming home from work... It's only 11:44 PM where I live, so this still counts for January 11!
And thanks for the critique so far, everyone. As for the wrinkles/folds, I wanted to add some to the previous picture, but I really had no idea how to with that kind of outfit.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 8:30 am


ok so i think your proportions are quite good, except id say you make their bodies look somewhat manly, as in not very curvy,make the butt stick out a bit more seperately from the thigh, a change in thickness if you know what i mean. more definition on the elbows and knees, it seems like kit just connects without a joint. with women, the shoulders and teh hips should be the same width, and then the breasts area uncluding the rib cage size is smaller, also there should be a small space between the thighs near the vag. XD you also make your upper arms a tad longer than they need to be, but then take away that length from the lower arm to make it right, the upper arm should end at the halfway between the boobs and hips, where her wiast will be smallest. maybe make the neck a bit longer, but its fine how it is i just like them longer.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 8:36 am


also you should draw me biggrin ill pay

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Zantetsken

PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 7:06 pm


I didn't really have a pose in mind before I got to this... At first I was thinking "jumping in happiness", then "a disturbed face since all the snow melted and she was apparently expecting/wanting snow", then the jumping thing sorta got scrapped and I dunno...
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 7:24 pm


There's not much to say about the newest work. It's a solid drawing but it's rather boring. I wish you pursued your first idea, it would definitely be more dynamic and interesting.

My quibbles with it: one side of her right leg is almost completely straight. From this angle you should definitely see at least a small curve indicating a knee-cap. For the other leg, because her foot is angled in such a way, the non-curvy side of her leg should curve slightly as well (if you want me to name the proper muscle, tell me. I don't have my anatomy book for the moment). Her right foot needs to be slightly farther back in the picture field.

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Zantetsken

PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:18 pm


Ah, that's right... For some reason I was trying to have the front leg more forward because her left leg would be farther back if she was standing perfectly straight, but that doesn't make sense with her pose. And I totally forgot that knee caps kinda bump out a bit.

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Here's Kenshiro from Hokuto no Ken ("Fist of the North Star"). I drew him from memory as much as I could, but I looked at a picture of him to find out which arm had the bandages and which had the... forearm thing... My design's a bit different from his actual design, but the real problem is I had his chest scars backwards before, so that's pretty much all I looked at for reference other than a quick look at his general appearance.

He was supposed to be cracking his knuckles, but the first arm I drew threw that off, so it turned into some sort of headlock position.

The Japanese text has his catch phrase, "You are already dead."
PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 9:14 pm


as the other guy has said, don't chop em. draw em, draw em whole.
Also, you might want to practice posing your characters effectively. other than that, more anatomy study. some are out of proportions.

your lines aren't clear. let me remind you, clear and clean are 2 different things.

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Zantetsken

PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 5:49 pm


Well, sometimes they end up a bit bigger than I thought, but I'll try to draw them whole whenever I can (without having to enlarge the canvas).
I'm used to drawing characters in rather plain, boring stances... I'll try some more "exciting" poses in these daily drawings, but this is sorta unfamiliar to me, so specific advice (when applicable) would be great. Well, pointing on specific problems on anything would be great.

Also, what do you mean by clear and clean? I can see how a lot of the lines are sorta smudged, rough, and I made the mistake of going over some lines more than once... What do you mean by "clear"?

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 7:38 pm


Well, I'm no pro, but if he was shot from behind, shouldn't he look more surprised, and it also seems like his back is broken, he look bent too much, again, I'm no expert
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