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Do you believe there were explosives involved in 9/11?
  no... that's a conspiracy theory
  no, I see no evidence
  I am undecided (AKA I'm in DENIAL)
  yes, buildings don't collapse at free fall speed
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 3:50 am


Every truther knows that both the world trade center towers and building 7, were demolished by explosives. The steel did not melt by the plane's gas or cause a pancake effect collapse at free-fall speed. Only sheep believe that story. Want proof? Research below, google it, or check out the hundreds of thousands of 9/11 truther videos on youtube.

I highly recommend watching these two videos, as many videos out there contain disinformation about hologram planes and bizarre theories rather than facts.
9/11 Connecting the Dots (Part 1 of 2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW23PuBKiA0
9/11 Connecting the Dots (Part 2 of 2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNDurCBIqek
Why the NIST report on WTC7 is unscientific and false
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V0WQFztLyg

100% PROOF TWIN TOWER JUST TURNED TO DUST MOLECULAR DISSOCIATION
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoAa_B2kRuo

Hear the Popping of Detonators
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5jS9rBXT_M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vKOylbxekQ

Explosives were built into the concrete core of the twin towers Part 1 of 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrCW3RUJBaI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iihBv5YkNac

9-11 Was An Inside Job
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2yy-FEDQY0

http://www.septemberclues.info/ <- some amazing footage of all the news stations broadcasts, simultaneously.
http://www.st911.org/

New 9/11 photos 'prove WTC exploded from inside'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX_UKdqoa_o

Talk about explosions in the Twin Towers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBqOnh3c4ZU

RAW: Rare 911 Ground Explosions Video! Firefighters: "7 Is Exploding" "I Know, I Know"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmfR35IjQds

Mysterious Deaths of 9/11 Witnesses
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYyBnFxPcpU

FireFighter Eric Lawyer Slams NIST And The 9/11 "Investigation"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uor8NhUr_90

911 reasons 9/11 was an inside job
http://rt.com/Top_News/2009-09-09/911-attack-job.html

Bin-Ladin Denies Involvement in the 9/11 Attacks
http://911review.com/articles/usamah/khilafah.html

William Cooper predicts 9/11 in June 2001
http://www.youtube.com//watch?v=zrTjPGy2k_U

Ales Jones predicts 9/11 in June 2001
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGtOFudmHG8

Israel Did 9/11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91lAlqtr_-I

Israel Taps Every Single Phone In America (Pt 1 & 2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYlOMzYIEO4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cjv_a8PEu78&NR=1

Israel did 9/11, ALL THE PROOF IN THE WORLD!!
http://theinfounderground.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5367

9/11 The Military Knows Israel Mossad and rogue US Gov. Did It - Part 1 of 9?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT5IVEQuzv8

Shorter version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91lAlqtr_-I

911 Commissioner says missile hits the Pentagon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73psegkg69c

Flashes = explosive
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJ6RI6o-7To


Molten Metal WTC Thermite 911 Demolition
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOq3HYRiG7Y

911 Call in World Trade Center, while tower collapse
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLW0jKKRXMo

The 911 FACT That The Lying Debunkers Can't Debunk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wZ9FizPcxw

BBC Reports Collapse of WTC Building 7 Early-- TWICE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mxFRigYD3s




Here are two examples of other demolitions.

20 July 2008 Shawbridge Flats.. Boom!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElMTVQUk7mU

Second Tallest Building ever imploded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8U4erFzhC-U



7/7 London Bombings Coincidences. 100% false flag
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWRnzXJvAfI

Sorry 7/7 section is so small, I'm not from the U.K so I haven't looked into 7/7 much. Please feel free to add any videos you think would help people of this guild.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:37 pm


9/11 was an inside job! Invented to take the rights and freedoms of you and me. When Freedom is outlawed. Only outlaws are free!

Shuyajin
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:38 pm


Extra Poll Option: Yes, it's a factual conspiracy! (1) (50%)
PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:21 pm


9/11 was a inside job

cadb8


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 1:23 pm


Wake me up, when September ends.

RIP all the lives lost.
PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 7:57 pm


Israel did 9/11, ALL THE PROOF IN THE WORLD!!
http://theinfounderground.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5367

9/11 The Military Knows Israel Mossad and rogue US Gov. Did It - Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT5IVEQuzv8

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 6:18 am


Quote:
Do you believe there were explosives involved in 9/11?
no... that's a conspiracy theory
no, I see no evidence
I am undecided (AKA I'm in DENIAL)
yes, buildings don't collapse at free fall speed



Why is it that at every chance you find a way to make 'undecided' be a negative?

You add nothing to the 'no' choices, and yet when it comes to the middle ground you decide to insult all those who would select that option by telling them they are 'in denial'.

Some people think it was an inside job, others don't.
As one of many who think it is probably an inside job I would have liked to have agreed with you, if only you would admit there is slightest chance you are wrong.

I prefer to go for the 'undecided option' on account of knowing I can occasionally be wrong in my assumptions. However many videos you can find claiming it was an inside job, there are at least an equal measure of videos claiming the opposite - you cannot know for sure that you're right, so please, if you could at least entertain the thought of your being wrong, that'd give me the chance to at least entertain the thought of watching all these video's you post around so much.
PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:49 pm


ETuesday
Quote:
Do you believe there were explosives involved in 9/11?
no... that's a conspiracy theory
no, I see no evidence
I am undecided (AKA I'm in DENIAL)
yes, buildings don't collapse at free fall speed



Why is it that at every chance you find a way to make 'undecided' be a negative?

You add nothing to the 'no' choices, and yet when it comes to the middle ground you decide to insult all those who would select that option by telling them they are 'in denial'.

Some people think it was an inside job, others don't.
As one of many who think it is probably an inside job I would have liked to have agreed with you, if only you would admit there is slightest chance you are wrong.

I prefer to go for the 'undecided option' on account of knowing I can occasionally be wrong in my assumptions. However many videos you can find claiming it was an inside job, there are at least an equal measure of videos claiming the opposite - you cannot know for sure that you're right, so please, if you could at least entertain the thought of your being wrong, that'd give me the chance to at least entertain the thought of watching all these video's you post around so much.


I'm sorry, it's just that I believe with every essence in my being, that 9/11 was brought down by explosives. I know with all my heart that I am correct on that specific part and it is extremely bothersome that others do not see such a truth. The rest of 9/11 theories are just that, theories. I do admit they could be completely wrong 3nodding but so may be the main stream media.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:25 pm


Truth Seeker May
ETuesday
Quote:
Do you believe there were explosives involved in 9/11?
no... that's a conspiracy theory
no, I see no evidence
I am undecided (AKA I'm in DENIAL)
yes, buildings don't collapse at free fall speed



Why is it that at every chance you find a way to make 'undecided' be a negative?

You add nothing to the 'no' choices, and yet when it comes to the middle ground you decide to insult all those who would select that option by telling them they are 'in denial'.

Some people think it was an inside job, others don't.
As one of many who think it is probably an inside job I would have liked to have agreed with you, if only you would admit there is slightest chance you are wrong.

I prefer to go for the 'undecided option' on account of knowing I can occasionally be wrong in my assumptions. However many videos you can find claiming it was an inside job, there are at least an equal measure of videos claiming the opposite - you cannot know for sure that you're right, so please, if you could at least entertain the thought of your being wrong, that'd give me the chance to at least entertain the thought of watching all these video's you post around so much.


I'm sorry, it's just that I believe with every essence in my being, that 9/11 was brought down by explosives. I know with all my heart that I am correct on that specific part and it is extremely bothersome that others do not see such a truth. The rest of 9/11 theories are just that, theories. I do admit they could be completely wrong 3nodding but so may be the main stream media.


You seem to have missed my point.
I understand that you believe you are right, of course you do, I'm not questioning that, rather, I find it irksome that you seem almost incapable of considering you might be incorrect.

I felt rather insulted that you add the 'denial' comment, as I'm sure you might if I constantly told you that I thought you narrow-minded and pig-headed. [Please don't take this as an outright insult, it's not entirely meant that way.]

You cling to your belief that 9/11 was an 'inside job' as strongly as a religious person might cling to their belief in God, but until it is either proven or disproved there is always a chance you may be wrong - personally I don't like to take the chance and so I choose the 'Undecided' option.
PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:45 pm


ETuesday
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Quote:
Do you believe there were explosives involved in 9/11?
no... that's a conspiracy theory
no, I see no evidence
I am undecided (AKA I'm in DENIAL)
yes, buildings don't collapse at free fall speed



Why is it that at every chance you find a way to make 'undecided' be a negative?

You add nothing to the 'no' choices, and yet when it comes to the middle ground you decide to insult all those who would select that option by telling them they are 'in denial'.

Some people think it was an inside job, others don't.
As one of many who think it is probably an inside job I would have liked to have agreed with you, if only you would admit there is slightest chance you are wrong.

I prefer to go for the 'undecided option' on account of knowing I can occasionally be wrong in my assumptions. However many videos you can find claiming it was an inside job, there are at least an equal measure of videos claiming the opposite - you cannot know for sure that you're right, so please, if you could at least entertain the thought of your being wrong, that'd give me the chance to at least entertain the thought of watching all these video's you post around so much.


I'm sorry, it's just that I believe with every essence in my being, that 9/11 was brought down by explosives. I know with all my heart that I am correct on that specific part and it is extremely bothersome that others do not see such a truth. The rest of 9/11 theories are just that, theories. I do admit they could be completely wrong 3nodding but so may be the main stream media.


You seem to have missed my point.
I understand that you believe you are right, of course you do, I'm not questioning that, rather, I find it irksome that you seem almost incapable of considering you might be incorrect.

I felt rather insulted that you add the 'denial' comment, as I'm sure you might if I constantly told you that I thought you narrow-minded and pig-headed. [Please don't take this as an outright insult, it's not entirely meant that way.]

You cling to your belief that 9/11 was an 'inside job' as strongly as a religious person might cling to their belief in God, but until it is either proven or disproved there is always a chance you may be wrong - personally I don't like to take the chance and so I choose the 'Undecided' option.

As have you missed MY point. I didn't say "9/11 was an inside job". I stated EXPLOSIVES WERE USED. Perhaps it was the "terrorists" who pushed the demolition button, I do not know who did, all I know is that the buildings did not collapse because of the planes crashing into them.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 3:02 am


I have two school of thoughts regarding 9/11, after about six years of research.

1. That regardless if dedicated(albeit brainwashed) Islamic jihadists were intimately involved in the operational aspects of carrying out 9/11 as most people believe...ultimately al Qaeda and Islamic jihad are NOTHING more than mere pawns to the global elite. Al Qaeda would be the bullet, but not the gun nor the hand nor even the arm of this deep state transnational beast.

The secrets of the exoteric hidden hand of 9/11 and its deep state arteries lie within the secrets of the Balkan wars(former Yugoslavia) of the 1990's, the drug trade, the lineage of the Mujahadeen and CIA, as well as Saudi elite financing and Pakistani Intelligence. And a big factor that ties it all together: BCCI, the Bank of Credit And Commerce International.
Whistleblowers have died trying to piece this web of intrigue together, as this web had been known since as early as the late 80's and 90's(google Mark Lombardi and Danny Casalaro)

2. The esoteric side of 9/11. I also believe, and am rather convinced that 9/11 was a very complex and dark occult ritual or "working". A deliberate action ABOVE the capability of any Muslim extremist or suit and tie intelligence agent or politician.

I see it as no coincidence that the plane numbers of 9/11(11, 77, 93 and 175) happen to be the prime occult numbers Aleister Crowley opined at great length about in his many writings. Nor the over use of "11" in general, be it the 11 shape of the 110 storied towers. Or Flight 11 hitting them, on the 11th day of September, 11 years before 2012 and 11 years to the day after Bush Sr's New World Order speech.

Flight 77 slamming into the 77 foot Pentagon, which had its construction began on 9/11/1941.

Or what about the targets themselves...two pillars? a pentagon(middle of a pentagram) Two HIGHLY occult esoteric symbols, and itd make sense these would be used as the sacrificial altars for the deaths of 3000 souls. The planes with their special numbers, almost acting as phallus for this dark sex magick ritual. The towers representing male(antenna, north tower) and female(south tower) duality. An attack to the north first, another esoteric signifier. Even the alleged ley lines running through Washington DC and NYC...and weve all seen the street layouts of downtown DC ending with the White House.

Come to think of it, why do so many "al Qaeda" terror bombings happen on a 7 or 11? Even look at the singled biggest stock drop: -777(the same title as one of Aleister Crowley's books)

Now either al Qaeda are big Crowley fans, or the true perpetrators of 9/11 have an intimate knowledge of the esoteric...perhaps 9/11 in a sense, was the opening of a star gate of some sort. Or the creation of a global consciousness egregore, eating up the mass negative emotion like corn flakes for breakfast in the morning.

Either way, its hard for me to buy that Bush and Cheney had a damn clue what was going on, or that some guys in a cave alone could be behind all this

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 3:04 am


I've been asked to put my two other thread OPs here.

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I've been attacked endlessly for years on my views of sept 11th and being an unapollagetic and proud 9/11 truther of 6 years. Ive brought large "Question 9/11" banners to anti war rallies(to the chagrin of the liberals there)

However, there's a more complex and hideous truth that both the "conspiracy" folks and the mindless mainstream sheep can't grasp.

Islamic terrorism/extremism is ITSELF a tool and proxy of the global elite, the new world order. They control al Qaeda and bin Laden. No matter what, 9/11 is an NWO job

Even if the US is convinced al Qaeda did 9/11, and al Qaeda thinks they acted alone...BOTH were clearly puppeteered and manipulated by the same hidden dark forces. Playing eachother off just like the first world wars.

This is how these "false flags" work. They get genuinely zealous Muslims lead by intelligence agents or paid off clerics. Or they manipulate existing terror groups. Either way, Islamic terrorism serves only one function: to be the proxy tool of the very state powers claiming to be under attack(worked like a charm for the Nazis)


and

Quote:
It's Official: Goldman Sachs Helped Engineer Financial 9/11
http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0416/charges-goldman-sachs-fraud/

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/sec-charges-goldman-sachs-investor-fraud/story?id=10396179

Quote:
Federal regulators today charged investment bank Goldman Sachs with fraud over the sale of risky subprime mortgage securities that were secretly designed to fail, costing investors $1 billion.


So did Goldman Sachs help engineer the financial crash of 2008?

And these are the guys Obama hand picked to help run the white house? Dear goodness
PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 3:11 am


ETuesday
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Quote:
Do you believe there were explosives involved in 9/11?
no... that's a conspiracy theory
no, I see no evidence
I am undecided (AKA I'm in DENIAL)
yes, buildings don't collapse at free fall speed



Why is it that at every chance you find a way to make 'undecided' be a negative?

You add nothing to the 'no' choices, and yet when it comes to the middle ground you decide to insult all those who would select that option by telling them they are 'in denial'.

Some people think it was an inside job, others don't.
As one of many who think it is probably an inside job I would have liked to have agreed with you, if only you would admit there is slightest chance you are wrong.

I prefer to go for the 'undecided option' on account of knowing I can occasionally be wrong in my assumptions. However many videos you can find claiming it was an inside job, there are at least an equal measure of videos claiming the opposite - you cannot know for sure that you're right, so please, if you could at least entertain the thought of your being wrong, that'd give me the chance to at least entertain the thought of watching all these video's you post around so much.


I'm sorry, it's just that I believe with every essence in my being, that 9/11 was brought down by explosives. I know with all my heart that I am correct on that specific part and it is extremely bothersome that others do not see such a truth. The rest of 9/11 theories are just that, theories. I do admit they could be completely wrong 3nodding but so may be the main stream media.


You seem to have missed my point.
I understand that you believe you are right, of course you do, I'm not questioning that, rather, I find it irksome that you seem almost incapable of considering you might be incorrect.

I felt rather insulted that you add the 'denial' comment, as I'm sure you might if I constantly told you that I thought you narrow-minded and pig-headed. [Please don't take this as an outright insult, it's not entirely meant that way.]

You cling to your belief that 9/11 was an 'inside job' as strongly as a religious person might cling to their belief in God, but until it is either proven or disproved there is always a chance you may be wrong - personally I don't like to take the chance and so I choose the 'Undecided' option.


Having been a dedicated para-political activist, researcher, anti war activist and 9/11 truther for the last 6 years, I will say a lot of people are locked into a particular way of thinking.

I learned that its ok to change or alter views when new information comes in that clears up previous notions or corrects half truths. For instance, while Im glad Loose Change helped "wake up" people like Zeitgeist, I also think Loose Change is almost wholly a work of debunkable fiction.

A much much better documentary on 9/11 is "Core of Corruption" a no nonsense documentary that goes deep into the very PROVABLE Saudi Arabian involvement, Pakistani Intelligence, possible Israeli linkage, and other things.

I myself believe the passengers helped bring down flight 93, I dont think a missile brought it down. I do believe Flight 77 slammed into the Pentagon and disentegrated upon impact. I believe the 19 hijackers were on board on all four flights. I believe al Qaeda was intimately involved, and genuinely believe they were "behind it"

But do I know who(or what) was controlling the planes? No
Do I think al Qaeda were the masterminds of 9/11? Heck no
Do I think jet fuel and structural damage alone befell the 3 towers? Absolutely not. (Tho I am not so sold on the "controlled demolition" per se)

In fact, even IF 9/11 was evil Islamic terrorists who did a sucker punch to America...its still an NWO job as both the US and al Qaeda are just manipulated puppets by various deep state and globalist interests(IMHO)

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