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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 7:12 pm


Ok, so this article stuck out to me because this is the first year I've ever chosen to get the flu vaccine, (I'm pregnant so I thought it'd be a good precaution for the baby) and I only got the H1N1 vaccine.

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Sharks Killed for Oil Used in Swine Flu Vaccine
James Owen
for National Geographic News
December 29, 2009

Vaccines being made to protect people from swine flu may not be so healthy for threatened species of sharks.

That's because millions of doses of the pandemic H1N1/09 vaccine contain a substance called squalene, which is extracted from shark livers.

More commonly found in beauty products such as skin creams, squalene can be used to make an adjuvant, a compound that boosts the body's immune response.

The World Health Organization recommends adjuvant-based vaccines, because they allow drug makers to create doses that use less of the active component, increasing available supplies.

Olive oil, wheat germ oil, and rice bran oil also naturally contain squalene, albeit in smaller amounts. But for now squalene is primarily harvested from sharks caught by commercial fishers, especially deepwater species. (Related: "Tomato, Tobacco Plants Produce SARS Vaccine.")

"There are several very disturbing issues associated with use of shark-liver-oil squalene," said Mary O'Malley, co-founder of the volunteer-run advocacy group Shark Safe Network.

"The deepwater sharks targeted have extremely low reproductive rates, and many are threatened species."

For example, one supplier has dubbed the gulper shark the Rolls-Royce of squalene-producing sharks—but the gulper is listed as vulnerable on the International Union for Conservation of Nature's (IUCN's) Red List of Threatened Species, meaning the species faces a high risk of extinction.

Shark Oil Demand

Although vaccines containing squalene have not yet been approved for use in the U.S., they are being distributed elsewhere, including Europe and Canada.

Novartis, a drug company that produces swine flu vaccines containing shark squalene, did not answer requests for information about its squalene supply.

GlaxoSmithKline (GSK), another major swine-flu vaccine producer, announced in October that it had received orders for 440 million doses of vaccine containing adjuvant.

And the adjuvant in GSK's vaccines—which have been administered in 26 countries so far—contains shark-liver squalene, company spokesperson Clare Eldred confirmed in a statement.

GSK wouldn't reveal the name of its supplier or the annual quantity of shark squalene it buys. But Eldred told National Geographic News that the drug company takes about 10 percent of its supplier's total output.

O'Malley, of the Shark Safe Network, estimates that GSK's 440 million doses would require at least 9,700 pounds (4,400 kilograms) of shark oil, based on the stated squalene content of 10.69 milligrams in a dose.

This estimate, however, assumes zero waste and no refining of the squalene once it's been extracted from the sharks, O'Malley said.

Slow-Growing Sharks

Found at depths of between 984 and 4,921 feet (300 and 1,500 meters), the deep-sea sharks that produce squalene are most frequently caught via bottom trawling, either deliberately or as bycatch.

"Bottom trawling is a horribly destructive fishing method that just bulldozes everything in its path and destroys enormous areas of the ocean floor," O'Malley said.

What's more, the already at-risk sharks are extremely slow growing and reproduce rarely.

A female gulper shark, for example, takes between 12 and 15 years to reach sexual maturity. A pregnant female gives birth to a single pup after a gestation period of about two years.

This means that the loss of a single female has a big impact on the population, said Hans Lassen, fisheries advisor for the International Council for the Exploration of the Sea, an intergovernmental organization.

In 2006 the European Union imposed deep-sea shark fishing limits in the Northeast Atlantic, and the amount of shark squalene available on the market has since been reduced.

Still, some squalene suppliers are actively soliciting fishers for these sharks, the Shark Safe Network's O'Malley said.

For instance, France-based suppler Sophim lists the species it seeks on its Web site, along with an offer to evaluate samples from shark livers that "are thrown away because fishermen don't know that the liver has a value."

Shark Liver Alternatives

Some cosmetics firms have stopped using shark squalene or are phasing it out following pressure from conservation groups.

A shark-squalene alternative isn't yet an option for adjuvant vaccine makers, according to GSK's Eldred.

The drug company is currently looking at non-animal squalene sources, including olive oil.

But at the moment, she said, "we are unable to find an alternative of high enough grade."





Thankfully the shark-derived stuff isn't being used in America (yet) but this still sucks, especially since they could get the same adjuvant from olives, wheat germ, and rice bran stressed
PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:10 am



Just another reason for me to steer clear. I am a fish person, and sharks are my favorite fish of all time. Making them my favorite animals. I can't condone their killing for pretty much anything.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 2:42 am


isnt that vaccine untested???......with loads of unhealthy monsterious side effects, over a mere flu.....which for healthy adults has no risk of killing you
honestly its all a scare by the pharmicutical industry for money and political
power

(if you think im wrong fowwlow the money and look it up for yourself, and i dont know about the shark thing)
PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 11:37 am


i feel bad for the killed sharks,but then again humans need to stay healthy..
uhh,idk what vaccination i got sweatdrop i just voted 'yes,and the regular one'.. sweatdrop

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 12:44 pm


iMuZicNinJa
i feel bad for the killed sharks,but then again humans need to stay healthy..

I agree that humans needs to stay healthy. But humans can usually stay healthy without killing any animals in the process. Most people don't need a flu shot to stay healthy either. And the safety of the flu shot itself has even been called into question by some!
PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 9:44 am


I never bothered with taking the swine flu vaccine. Thank goodness I didn't after reading that article.

Seems like our country would rather let wildlife take a hit instead of our food supply.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:43 pm


that's HORIbLE, i never would of got a shot if i knew this... no more bS vaccines for me smile
PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 3:33 pm


Most vaccines are actually really bad ideas to get - they're almost always released before sufficient testing has been done.

If you ever get the chance to have a serious talk with your doctor about vaccines, most will tell you that themselves and their families don't get most or all vaccines, and that they only push vaccines on patients because they're paid to.

Have you all read about the deaths by the Guardasil vaccine and how some governors were trying to make it mandatory for young girls to get it to attend school? :C

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:34 am


im getting over pig aids, er, swine flu right now, and i didnt die. i refuse to get vaccinated, it's ridiculous, no need to, all we are doing by getting vaxed is making our own immune systems turn to mush. i dont get vaxed and i only get sick once a year.
PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 12:42 pm


The World Health Organization is currently under investigation by the British Medical Journal and The Bureau of Investigative Journalism in London. You can read about it here if you haven't already. The concern is that it was all an exaggerated hoax; not the illness itself but the severity of it. It seems likely to me.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 9:56 am


I got a flue vaccine once, and two days later I had a fever of 102 a horrible head ache, and felt like I was going to throw up. I felt this way for 5 days. But thank goodness I got the flu vaccine!
I never get the flu, and the one time I get the vaccine I die. so no thank you.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 10:00 am


My brother who was in the Air Force never had any vaccines for the swine flu administered on base. That was enough to tell me it's not necessary.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 10:01 am


Three Tailed Fox
Most vaccines are actually really bad ideas to get - they're almost always released before sufficient testing has been done.

If you ever get the chance to have a serious talk with your doctor about vaccines, most will tell you that themselves and their families don't get most or all vaccines, and that they only push vaccines on patients because they're paid to.

Have you all read about the deaths by the Guardasil vaccine and how some governors were trying to make it mandatory for young girls to get it to attend school? :C


THANK YOU ~!!!!!!!

finallly someone else who reads the stuff

have you ever read the inserts on the actual package thats mailed to them
PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:35 am


Three Tailed Fox
Most vaccines are actually really bad ideas to get - they're almost always released before sufficient testing has been done.

If you ever get the chance to have a serious talk with your doctor about vaccines, most will tell you that themselves and their families don't get most or all vaccines, and that they only push vaccines on patients because they're paid to.

Have you all read about the deaths by the Guardasil vaccine and how some governors were trying to make it mandatory for young girls to get it to attend school? :C

I love my family doctor for this reason. He told me that the Guardasil vaccine was such a waste of time and money. Glad I listened to him

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Three Tailed Fox

PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 12:35 pm


Nearly all of these 'animal flus' (bird/swine/horse/etc.) have been seriously played up by the media to get more sales of the vaccines. If you're really going to get a flu shot, go for the actual influenza virus. Take this excerpt on the matter:

"The current pandemic of Swine Flu has claimed less than 3,000 lives. Then again, the ordinary flu, that gives us the sniffles every year? That one kills several hundred thousand people around the world.

The reason for the early panic is that they believed this virus was a descendant of the 1918 Spanish Flu that wiped out a jaw-dropping 50-million people. And while it was obviously not as deadly, the fear was that it would eventually mutate into something like its apocalyptic ancestor.

Even the World Health Organization is describing this as a "moderate" outbreak. Their advice? Same as with the regular flu. Babies and old people should get vaccinated. The rest of your should wash your hands and stay away from sick people."
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