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Me and a guy called Grape from another guild have been having a few battles recently in the UU tier and I currently run a choice band Dugtrio with EQ, Stone edge, sucker punch and aerial ace. It's nothing to do with it's power that breaks it, infact it's pretty weak tbh, but it's the ability Arena trap which allows it to trap anything it comes in on that isn't flying or has levitate until either is KO'd that makes up for it. So basically it can take on any pokemon with a Utility set or one that uses moves that ground resists, kill it and switch out straight after for use later on. The Pokemon i've managed to KO so far include the likes of Wigglytuff, Plusle, Magcargo, Zangoose, Hypno, Entei and I think I even managed Ursaring. Some of those were in the same battle too.

So I want your opinions on Dugtrio guys. c:
I'm very much in love with it along with Poliwrath and Scyther.
Also if anyone knows of any more Pokemon considered broken in UU feel free to write them here, i'd like to know of them. ^^

List of Pokemon Hatagami (My Dugtrio) has managed to revenge kill:
Wigglytuff
Plusle
Magcargo
Zangoose
Hypno
Entei
Ursaring
Luxray
Lucario
Claydol (arena trap didn't help however)
Milotic
Jynx
Electrode
Swampert
Blaziken

Not to mention it has the ability super luck and access to night slash, which have quite a high critical hit rate combined.
Being able to learn superpower and heatwave is a bonus on top of that. [:

LoL I ask myself the same question, i'd love to see a flying Dugtrio. x'D

smogon does the tiers not based on what they believe, it´s what is more used for the players... so, if latias is OU, it´s because is widely over used by the people... if not with their own pokémon, on shoody battle

and dugtrio... REVENGE KILL are the words you´re looking for

I wonder if, back in R/B/Y when you have the metronome tutor, Dugtrio could learn it... Or if you hacked R/B/Y to make Dugtrio use Fly, you could use it on Pokemon Stadium

One time, I taught my Hitmonlee metronome, I used it on Pokemon Stadium, & it used Fly! Then it just stood there in the air.

I picked up a diglett in My Pokemon Ranch on the wii and it just had a lame brown square underneath it. T.T

Serge, I completely agree with Kyrenx. They ought to be moved up in teirs. The only logic reason I can think of why they are in that teir is to give themselves excuses for using them as they please. We have a voting system here about the moval of certain pokemon for a very good reason. That reason is that there are other trainers like me and Kyrenx that feel the same way.


Back on Topic, I haven't had the chance to use a Dugtrio, or face one, but I can see where you are coming from. Scyther is a nice one as well. Sword Dance or Agility, holding Focus Sash, then its Ability kicks in and boost X-Siccor, which is also gets a STAB from. Ouch.

Though, regarding UU, there is just one thing I have to say: Ambipom ftw!

Dugtrio can get a random revenge kill, once you know your opponent has one, you can plan around it accordingly.

So your going to tell me that the questionably moving of Manaphy and Latias from Uber into OU didn't affect why so many pokemon got dropped down into UU and NU? Or even in the past how Deoxys-S got dropped down to OU, only to get pushed back into Uber not even a month later thanks to how overcentralized it was in the OU metagame? I can see how Manaphy would be considered OU if they consider Latias to be, but why they even considered it to be OU in the first place while Garchomp remains in the Uber tier (where it is quite ineffective against other Ubers) is just mind boggling. So I reiterate, the new Smogon tiers are garbage.


Well, in the respects of the word, we don't really have tier lists here. Just an Uber list that is being used more or less like a ban list for OU play. I've considered writing up my own lists, but perhaps such things would only unnecessarily open up a can of worms. Concerning UU/NU battles, I suppose I could dig up the list(s) that was used during the last UU-tournament hosted by Cormini for everyone to use when Cormini rehosts his UU-tourney.