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 Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:49 pm
Before I launch into my explanation I want to let you know that I am not vegan although I am seriously considering it and I am not of legal age yet, and no I am not sexually active.
You know how a lot of people support milk? "Milk is good for your bones, so you should drink it." "Milk tastes deliciously nutritious." Even at the elementary school closest to my home there's a poster. "Got milk?"
Kind of switching topic here.
Halloween. My mom, until I was maybe nine, didn't let me go trick or treating. She's got a good reason though. "As young children, you're told over and over not to talk to strangers. Halloween goes against all that. A young person might not be able to tell the difference. 'Oh look, kids. We're going to knock on a bunch of strangers doors and ask for candy.' 'But, mom. What about no talking to strangers?' 'Tonight is an exception.'"
You see where I'm going, right?
Back to the milk. They advertise it as good for you. I suppose there are some benefits of drinking milk, but I don't know them exactly. If a vegan has children they'll be exposed to all this 'milk is good for you' stuff and other little kids with white mustaches on their lip.
My question is this: How would a vegan be able to set it straight with their child about milk, how bad it is and where it actually comes from, when they're barely able to comprehend reading skills?
I am seriously considering switching from vegetarian to vegan, but right now I'm weighing the costs and benefits. The whole children thing occurred to me while I was thinking about it. I've tried to think of an answer but can't find one.
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Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 9:59 am
There are also commercials for cheese, beef, pork, alcohol, birth control, and erectile dysfunction medications. But that doesn't mean all that stuff is right for your small child!
The world has a lot of false information, contradictions, people trying to sell us crap, stuff that is ok for adults but not for kids, etc. So no matter what you do, your child is probably going to be exposed to a lot of crap.
Whether it's milk or something else, we have to do the best we can to teach our children that what they're told is best from other people isn't always actually best. It might be confusing for them at first, but it is a lesson that all kids need to learn anyway, not just veg kids. Teach them to be a critical thinker, to ask questions, and to take things with a grain of salt. There are educational internet videos about where milk comes from and why it isn't good. By the time you have a child, there will probably be even more and even more that are geared specifically to small children. You can also see if your local library has any educational books or videos on the subject. You can also let the school know if your child is veg so they do not serve him or her any meat or dairy or encourage him or her to eat any. I worked in a daycare that kept notes about who was vegetarian, who was vegan, who had food allergies, etc.
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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 1:57 pm
I don't see milk or eggs being a bad thing, as long as they are created organically. It frankly disguists me to think of all the growth hormones and steroids manufacturers put into our food, all that poison builds up after a while (or sooner) and isn't good at all.
Of course, when I get to thinking about it, it's always weird to think that humans consume products from other animals (milk/eggs, etc) and that we're the only animal that does that....
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Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 3:19 am
Your own breastmilk, yo. When they're weened, they don't need it anymore. Get nutrients elsewhere.
I recommend Becoming Vegan: The Complete Guide to Adopting a Plant-Based Diet by Brenda Davis, R.D. and Vesanto Melina, M.S., R.D.
They have a full chapter on the nutritional aspect of raising vegan kids from birth to adolescence to adulthood.
Tell your kid that the Got Milk posters aren't right. Human milk is for humans, and cow milk is for cows. Baby cows should be able to drink their own milk (not fed slaughterhouse floor scrappings/bad grain/blood/etc. and deprived of developing a relationship with their mothers).
Simple.
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Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 2:31 pm
Have heart. Children are capable of more understanding than you might first realzie. Some of the brightest and most eloquent people I've ever met were toddlers, vegan ones at that. Just explain it to them straight, but gently. Tell them the truth, and answer their questions. Not only will you have a well educated child, but they'll respect you for being so open with them, and they'll rise to the occasion to defend you and veganism when others question their motives.
Really, that's the best thing to do in any relationship, whether veganism is the issue or something else.
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Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 11:47 pm
frankly if you tell them what you know it's logical and easiest to understand for childern. Milk companies pay money for commerically success. So many allergy cases in animal milk products amongst human can only proves even more what cow milk really is... just another products. Nobody indeed need those to survive. In old days like 60 years ago, only poor people who has nothing to eat rely animal milk as part of their diets because they had nothing more to eat...
We all understand what most commericals are base on... either lies and exaggeration if not both. When compared without cow milk & less meat in our diets, To 2 or 3 glasses of cow milk per day's diets highly increase the chances of develope Osteoporosis & cancers
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Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 1:19 am
Try To (This Is A Complex Thought On The Following Hypothases)
Teach Possibly A Very Small Amount To Get Them A Bit Into The Developing Term Of Being A Vegan Why NOT To Drink Milk
Milk Is Highly Packed With Few Or Many As If Nutrians But Many Farms Harm The Cow When Procceding The Product "MILK" The Child Might Not Nessaserly Need To Be Wonderous About It , Simply As Growing The No Milk Drinking Would Develop It's Own Sung-nif-a-since As Not In Knowledge Of Course NOT Very Possibly But Here's Another Thing Woild It Be Any Hard Or Confusing Fur A Child To Have All These Posters Und Other Wise Children Drinking Milk In Their Own Envirment ? It Might But By Devolopment It'll Somewhat Devolp The Ways Of The Child But I Once Again Repeat It's A Thought Not A Straight Answer But A Thought Of A Continues Term Of Disscussing But As Well I Don't Knowledge It Exactly Either Go Around Other Places Possibly Looking Fur Some Related Answers und Do Some Research If You Can Or Want This Is A Good Question Too To Include
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Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 10:22 pm
I glad this came up. I was wondering the same thing myself. What do you do when they go off to school? I remember when I was little, I was always trading. Even though my mother and my teachers told us not to.
Also, and I know this is completely off topic, but Xx0Happy0xX, English isn't your your first language is it? I don't mean that in a rude way whatsoever, There's some German in there and I kept getting confused, my brain kept switching between German and English DX
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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 9:26 am
Did you know that soymilk has the same amount of calcium per serving as regular milk? seriously, I learned it last year. there's more protein too. some brands are silk and west soy, which are most common, so your kids can have that. I'm not a doctor or anything, but I know that between ages 1 and 5, your future kids will need a lot of soymilk, since from about newborn age and toddler age they grow a lot, so it's probably not as complicated as you think.
And about that advertising issue... teach your kids to love animals. that way when you tell them that by buying milk, eggs, etc. that's not organic, you're hurting the animal and that they get to have no fun in life. tell them that they're doing a good thing, and encourage them.
hope this has helped! best wishes
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