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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 7:01 pm
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 7:32 pm
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 7:34 pm
Abortion should have been a state by state politicle desition in the first place.
I would also like to point out that, even though these states my have rulign agianst abortion, that does not mean the state actualy supports it. The state is made up by the people.
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:08 pm
Pyrotechnic Oracle Abortion should have been a state by state politicle desition in the first place. I would also like to point out that, even though these states my have rulign agianst abortion, that does not mean the state actualy supports it. The state is made up by the people. That's how it was in the first place. Then came RvW. Keep in mind, old state laws can be changed if current opinion has altered.
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:27 pm
SO basicly the government subjicated the states aginast thier will at the time. Isn't that illigle?
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:33 pm
How this became legal in the first place still boggles me. It could be because I'm not a lawyer...but I do know that...
This wasn't a law passed by Congress and no states voted on it.
I thought making laws was Congress' job. Why do we have such a huge thing in place when we didn't even have a say in the matter?
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:48 pm
Cyanna How this became legal in the first place still boggles me. It could be because I'm not a lawyer...but I do know that... This wasn't a law passed by Congress and no states voted on it. I thought making laws was Congress' job. Why do we have such a huge thing in place when we didn't even have a say in the matter? That's right, but apparently the Supreme Court can get around that by judging one way or the other on cases and re-"interpreting" the constitution. Since reading between the lines is allowed, basically they can make crap up and say, "Well, the founding fathers -implied- that we have a right to privacy."
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 9:01 pm
Pyrotechnic Oracle SO basicly the government subjicated the states aginast thier will at the time. Isn't that illigle? It was the same deal as the slavery ban. It was declared unconstitutional to make abortion illegal. Please don't anyone get mad at me for comparing the two, y'all should know by now what my opinion about that ruling is, but it's the closest thing I can think of, and at the time it happened, the people were outraged enough that the central government had over-ridden the states that an actual war broke out.
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 9:21 pm
I.Am Cyanna How this became legal in the first place still boggles me. It could be because I'm not a lawyer...but I do know that... This wasn't a law passed by Congress and no states voted on it. I thought making laws was Congress' job. Why do we have such a huge thing in place when we didn't even have a say in the matter? That's right, but apparently the Supreme Court can get around that by judging one way or the other on cases and re-"interpreting" the constitution. Since reading between the lines is allowed, basically they can make crap up and say, "Well, the founding fathers -implied- that we have a right to privacy." whats funny is that there ara two mentions of god in the constitution. One direct, and one indirect through the phrase "diving province" IN CAPITAL LETTERS MIND YOU
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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 12:31 pm
i hope they do make it illegal ! thin about it ! GOD has the powere to give and take life, not humans ! guns, rifles, bombs, abortions, I SPIT ON YOU ALL !!!!!! SMITE YOU ! DANG YOU TO HECK !!!!!!!! i have made my point.
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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 12:49 pm
I like my guns, you can't take them form me. You can ban fire arms but you can't take away the right to own them or make the illigle. If I'm willing to go through all the red tape and can fork over 24 mill. I could get myself a stinger missle if I wanted.
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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 7:55 pm
I.Am Since reading between the lines is allowed, basically they can make crap up and say, "Well, the founding fathers -implied- that we have a right to privacy." I've got nothing against a right to privacy, as long as you're not using it to, oh, say, privately kill another freaking person. rolleyes Frankly, considering everything George II's been up to, we need a right to privacy now more than ever but that's just my bleeding-heart opinion...*whistles*...
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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 8:07 pm
La Veuve Zin I.Am Since reading between the lines is allowed, basically they can make crap up and say, "Well, the founding fathers -implied- that we have a right to privacy." I've got nothing against a right to privacy, as long as you're not using it to, oh, say, privately kill another freaking person. rolleyes Frankly, considering everything George II's been up to, we need a right to privacy now more than ever but that's just my bleeding-heart opinion...*whistles*... razz Don't see as that's bleeding heart; My definition of bleeding-heart means, like, out of concern for someone else. Like, being against a war because of what it does to the people in the country being attacked is bleeding heart. Being Pro-Life is bleeding heart. But wanting to have privacy, that's not really bleeding heart. But then, that's just my definition, I don't know what the technical definition of it is. XD Anyways, the problem is that, even without a stated "right to privacy," you have some obvious things. Like the government can't just bust into your house and start going through things, unless they have reason to believe there's something illegal there. But having a "right to privacy," if you think about it, prevents the government from coming into your house even if they have reasonable cause, and you could get away with pretty much anything as long as it isn't on public property.
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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 8:56 am
kaai i hope they do make it illegal ! thin about it ! GOD has the powere to give and take life, not humans ! guns, rifles, bombs, abortions, I SPIT ON YOU ALL !!!!!! SMITE YOU ! DANG YOU TO HECK !!!!!!!! i have made my point. I'm not really sure that, that counts as a "point".
You definitally got your message across though.
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Teflon! Non-Stick Coating
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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 9:03 am
Cyanna How this became legal in the first place still boggles me. It could be because I'm not a lawyer...but I do know that... This wasn't a law passed by Congress and no states voted on it. I thought making laws was Congress' job. Why do we have such a huge thing in place when we didn't even have a say in the matter? Federal law is a step above Congress. It's actually more important. It's a law in all of the United States, as well as Canada not to murder people. Congress, or Provincial courts can't change that. Roe v. Wade was a precedent made by the Supreme Court. Because they decided one way all other lawyers of a lower level had to use that as the example. They can't argue against the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court also had to make a decision one way or another so they looked at all the information and the majority of them decided that this was the best course of action. Basically, most of the 7 or 9 people involved decided that it was alright for a child to die so now no lawyer can go against that and children are dying everywhere.
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