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Uncle Johnny
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:40 am


I have extremely confronting dreams that I believe are connected to both visions that I see all the time (there's no specific time of day, frame of thought or even discussion that I have, they just appear) and to my father's suicide.

When I was 10, my (step) father committed suicide. I did not see it, I was also in a state of denial for two years, I honestly didn't believe he was dead, I just thought he and Mum were separated.

Firstly, my dreams: I'm in a black space. There's no apparent floor, no walls, no roof... It's all just black. Then, my mother appears. One thing you must understand about my mother, I am absolutely terrified about losing her... if I lost her, I don't know what would happen. She's the light of my life and my absolute rock.

Anyway, she has both her hands in an old rock basin, like from the early, poverty stricken 19th century. I'm moved closer and I can see there's a liquid in the basin and it's black - not red, black. The basin is topped to the rim, and I'm moved closer again. When I say "moved", I mean ... this isn't me moving... I'm literally zoomed closer. I then see that she has tubes going into her wrists, her blood has been drained into the tub. I look up at her face and her eyes are cut out... there's just black where they're supposed to be. She has no facial expression at all and it terrifies me.

I'm then moved back to my original position and my mother fades away. Sometimes, I wake up at this point, but others I continue to dream. After my mother, my father appears hanging from a tree. Again, I'm moved forward and his eyes are cut out. I can't explain how someone can look at you with no eyes, but he stares at me while he's swaying. He tries to talk to me ... and I can't understand...
I've never slept more than that. I always wake up there.

I've been having this dream for the past 7 years. Any time I'm under any kind of emotional stress, whether it be a boyfriend breaking up with me or the death of a loved one... I have this dream for 3 - 4 months. Every. Night. It gets so bad that sometimes, I will actually refuse to sleep. I'm terrified of this dream.

Secondly, my visions: I don't know why they appear, but they do. Unlike my dreams, they have no connection to anything I do at all. I could be sitting in class laughing with my friends and I'll see a man hanging and trying to speak. I could be in my room, crying over some nonsense movie and I'll see a man hanging and trying to speak. I'm not sure if it's my dad or not, I've never seen it's face properly. But, it freaks me the ******** out..

I'm not saying that I can see the dead or people that hang themselves... I just want to know why I see these things... I understand that his death was a major emotional moment in my life, but I've been able to move on consciously, just not subconsciously. It's been almost 6 years, 11 months since his death... I just want to be free.
PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 1:58 am


This is very difficult...

First of all, I'm very sorry about your loss. It's always hard to move on. Some people can consciously and unconsciously overcome things like that easier than others.

I could come up with all kinds of reasons why things would trigger it in dreams, what things could represent and such but considering you see the same thing awake makes things more complicated.

I'm not sure why you're having visions of it.

I wish I were more help. :/

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 1:59 am


xD I wish anything could be more help.

& Thanks dear, but life goes on. xD Can't cry forever.
PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 2:20 am


I'm curious though... how clear are your dreams? Like are they foggy, black and white... Do you have all of your senses in the dream and is it like you're watching from your own eyes or watching a movie play out?

Personally, my dreams are full color, full senses and I can usually become aware that it's a dream and manipulate things. Sometimes it's like watching a movie and I can't really do much about it but sit back and go through it. I have repetitive dreams but after dreaming it once I can usually do things differently as I remember what happened last time.

My friend said that she would have dreams that would be the same event over and over again until it's corrected.

Have you tried gaining control of your dreams? They usually tell you to learn meditation techniques and start keeping a dream journal to make you more aware of them. You just keep a journal or pad of paper right next to your bed and as soon as you wake up you write it down before you forget.

Maybe if you can change something about the dreams they'll change and you can understand them and the visions better.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 2:36 am


Usually, it's colour, but it's darker... like that film technique on Sin City or 300? ( Sorry if you haven't seen those movies ). They're perfectly clear and I'm not sure if I have my senses, I have a diminished sense of smell in real life, I don't touch anything in the dream, I can see everything, I don't taste anything and nothing's said... so it's hard to tell.

But, it's almost like I'm floating above everything, watching and I can do nothing to change the dream. I can't even wake myself up, I have to be waken up by something other than the dream such as an alarm or person.

xD Meditation makes me burst into tears... Part of the process of meditation is to "isolate and forget problems". I don't deal with problems like a normal person, I deal with them at a later date by not thinking about them. If I'm forced to think about them before I'm ready, I collapse into an emotional mess.
PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:00 am


I saw them. That's interesting.

I've noticed that dreams like that, where it feels like I'm floating around watching it all I have a harder time controlling and manipulating what happens.

Yeah, meditation is hard for me too. My mind is hyper all the time. Dream control came easy to me for some reason though without really keeping a dream journal. I woke up and repeated things out loud to remember them and in my dreams it became easier to become aware of them. Most times I can rescue myself from a nightmare now.

Maybe try playing some music while you sleep and seeing if you hear it in your dream. It might help you become aware. It might help effect the dream as well.

I don't really know what else to suggest.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:15 am


xD Music doesn't do anything, really... I'm a singer, so ... yuh know? xD
PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:26 am


I only brought it up because I used to sleep with my radio on all the time and the music would end up in my dreams, usually towards the end when I was close to waking up. xD

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:34 am


xD Nah, music and tv are both background noise for me... I'm so used to having them on.

But, I usually need to be woken up by something really loud or something physical. I sleep with my phone ( which is also my alarm ) and it vibrates when it goes off, so that usually wakes me up.
PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:52 am


I'm hard to wake up, or if I am I often don't remember it. My fiance says that I'll wake up and be all "GRR shut up!" and he'll tell me something and I just grumble and go back to sleep. I don't even remember it. I know I used to sleepwalk, but I was aware and just didn't have control. This is like... a bitchy sleep talk that I have absolutely no memory or control of. x3

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 2:27 pm


I hate to ask this, but did your father die by hanging? The visions could quite possibly be your father trying to contact you, but can't say anything because he doesn't have enough energy or the nature of his death.

I know very little about dreams, but maybe it's just a dream from your subconscious revealing and tormenting you with what you fear most?
D: I'm bad at this.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 5:38 am


Yeah he did.
xD He hung himself with a ******** chain... > >; He was kinda hardcore.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:52 am


Ow, a chain? x.x;

Raht: I thought about that too.

I'm not sure what the cut out eyes could represent... Not wanting to see? Afraid to see? Seeing not just being visual, but seeing information or truth. The not being able to hear or understand could represent the loss or lack of information. Perhaps your subconscious can't rest until you understand exactly why he did it, or something else that you feel you never got to understand after he passed.

The thing with your mother is a little easier to understand since you admit you're afraid of losing her, and the fact that she shows up with him in your dreams can represent that.

What's stumping me is the visions.

If his spirit isn't at rest, and maybe that's what's following you, a painful death could be responsible or him not being able to tell you something. I dunno... just my thoughts.
PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:12 pm


well, my dad was a Buddhist, so by killing himself, he wasn't reincarnated... but I don't think that he believed in spirits or anything, so I don't think he would come back and admit he was wrong ( he was very stubborn ).

i don't think it's him...
i can't explain why i think that, i just don't think it's him in the vision.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:41 pm


I was just throwing ideas out there. .-. I really don't know, maybe it's someone else who died under similar circumstances and is latching onto you because of your step-dad.

There are so many different ways this could go... I mean if it were different visions that would at least give a little more to go on but the fact that it's the same or similar every time makes it limited.
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