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 Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:48 am
In an effort to respect Wicca and the Samhain festival, and not to mention calm the fears of Christians who feel Halloween is just code for "Satan Day," a school in Guam has decided to remain in the "religious neutral zone" by calling Halloween, "Costume Day." No really, in an effort to remain religiously neutral, they cannot celebrate Halloween, all school activities must be secular. I am actually getting tired of schools doing this. Separation of Church and State means that the state cannot endorse a religion. This means, that the president is not the Pope of the Church of America. This does not mean you cannot put Santa Claus, Jack-O-Lanterns or a Menorah on school grounds. You should be able to do such things, and maybe kids won't grow up thinking that celebrating your religious identity is counter to cultural ideals.
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:56 pm
LordNeuf This does not mean you cannot put Santa Claus, Jack-O-Lanterns or a Menorah on school grounds. It should. Santa? I can't stand that Chrisitan stuff. Makes my skin crawl. I told you about that time when I stayed with my Catholic Relatives. All those Judgemental Jesus statues and Crucifixes staring at me, mocking me... Drove me mad and led me to believe that my Catholic Grandpa's ghost hated me because I was Jewish and was going to kill me in my sleep. I barely survived those two weeks, and it still took me some time to calm the frick back down. I was on edge for days afterward.
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:37 pm
At least "Costume Day", like all Jewish holidays, doesn't have "ween" in it.
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 8:20 pm
Lumanny the Space Jew LordNeuf This does not mean you cannot put Santa Claus, Jack-O-Lanterns or a Menorah on school grounds. It should. Santa? I can't stand that Chrisitan stuff. Makes my skin crawl. I told you about that time when I stayed with my Catholic Relatives. All those Judgemental Jesus statues and Crucifixes staring at me, mocking me... Drove me mad and led me to believe that my Catholic Grandpa's ghost hated me because I was Jewish and was going to kill me in my sleep. I barely survived those two weeks, and it still took me some time to calm the frick back down. I was on edge for days afterward. I dunno, maybe I just haven't seen enough of it to know how you feel about it.
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 5:52 am
LordNeuf Lumanny the Space Jew LordNeuf This does not mean you cannot put Santa Claus, Jack-O-Lanterns or a Menorah on school grounds. It should. Santa? I can't stand that Chrisitan stuff. Makes my skin crawl. I told you about that time when I stayed with my Catholic Relatives. All those Judgemental Jesus statues and Crucifixes staring at me, mocking me... Drove me mad and led me to believe that my Catholic Grandpa's ghost hated me because I was Jewish and was going to kill me in my sleep. I barely survived those two weeks, and it still took me some time to calm the frick back down. I was on edge for days afterward. I dunno, maybe I just haven't seen enough of it to know how you feel about it. It drives me crazy. I guess I've got some kind of complex or something because I feel bad that my Dad is not Jewish and I'm a Reform Jew. I cannot handle the sight of all that Christian stuff. Just a simple cross will make me uncomfortable, and if there's a Jesus or Santa or something with eyes, their stares burn my soul a little bit. Remember when I told you guys about the time I toured a Cathedral and got so uncomfortable that I had to wear a kippah?
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 5:29 pm
Meh. I was passed out through most of it, so I don't really care.
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 7:06 pm
Lol @ Dr. Awkward.
It's not bothersome to me. Happy Holidays or Merry Christmas, whatever. People are putting out the effort to wish you well when they usually wouldn't and that should be meaningful. Having fun and being merry is a universal thing so we shouldn't take it personally just because someone doesn't wish us a happy Chanukah or if someone assumes we celebrate Halloween, etc. There are more important things to be angry about.
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:04 pm
kingpinsqeezels Lol @ Dr. Awkward. It's not bothersome to me. Happy Holidays or Merry Christmas, whatever. People are putting out the effort to wish you well when they usually wouldn't and that should be meaningful. Having fun and being merry is a universal thing so we shouldn't take it personally just because someone doesn't wish us a happy Chanukah or if someone assumes we celebrate Halloween, etc. There are more important things to be angry about. No, it isn't. Haven't you ever heard of Haredim or Shiites~?
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:26 pm
Lumanny the Space Jew It drives me crazy. I guess I've got some kind of complex or something because I feel bad that my Dad is not Jewish and I'm a Reform Jew. I cannot handle the sight of all that Christian stuff. Just a simple cross will make me uncomfortable, and if there's a Jesus or Santa or something with eyes, their stares burn my soul a little bit. Remember when I told you guys about the time I toured a Cathedral and got so uncomfortable that I had to wear a kippah? Yeah but that's the thing. All our obligations and prohibitions are to make us to be different from everyone else. If Christians stop behaving like Christians because of the Jew in the room, it makes them act more like us, as in... NOT acknowledging Jesus and the entire Christian heritage. If you cannot tolerate the sight of Santa because your afraid of what Santa represents, then my friend it is something that you need to work out. For thousands of years we have wanted people to leave us to practice and show our acts of devotion without question or offense. I think we should at least allow the Goyim to do as they please, but not to our benefit.
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:37 pm
Dr. Awkward kingpinsqeezels Lol @ Dr. Awkward. It's not bothersome to me. Happy Holidays or Merry Christmas, whatever. People are putting out the effort to wish you well when they usually wouldn't and that should be meaningful. Having fun and being merry is a universal thing so we shouldn't take it personally just because someone doesn't wish us a happy Chanukah or if someone assumes we celebrate Halloween, etc. There are more important things to be angry about. No, it isn't. Haven't you ever heard of Haredim or Shiites~? If you don't think human beings enjoy having fun, if even only once in their lives, then you're pretty misinformed. Even the Ultra Orthodox and Muslims aren't seriously 100% of the time...that's prejudice talking.
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:52 am
LordNeuf Lumanny the Space Jew It drives me crazy. I guess I've got some kind of complex or something because I feel bad that my Dad is not Jewish and I'm a Reform Jew. I cannot handle the sight of all that Christian stuff. Just a simple cross will make me uncomfortable, and if there's a Jesus or Santa or something with eyes, their stares burn my soul a little bit. Remember when I told you guys about the time I toured a Cathedral and got so uncomfortable that I had to wear a kippah? Yeah but that's the thing. All our obligations and prohibitions are to make us to be different from everyone else. If Christians stop behaving like Christians because of the Jew in the room, it makes them act more like us, as in... NOT acknowledging Jesus and the entire Christian heritage. If you cannot tolerate the sight of Santa because your afraid of what Santa represents, then my friend it is something that you need to work out. For thousands of years we have wanted people to leave us to practice and show our acts of devotion without question or offense. I think we should at least allow the Goyim to do as they please, but not to our benefit. Even so, I just can't handle it. If the Gentiles are trying to be nice and not send me into emotional fits, then LET THEM.
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:45 am
Lumanny the Space Jew Even so, I just can't handle it. If the Gentiles are trying to be nice and not send me into emotional fits, then LET THEM. You need to get your Dune on.
I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain
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Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 1:08 pm
LordNeuf Lumanny the Space Jew Even so, I just can't handle it. If the Gentiles are trying to be nice and not send me into emotional fits, then LET THEM. You need to get your Dune on.
I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remainWin. Personally, I have no issue with someone celebrating their holidays. So long as I'm free to do the same with my own holidays, why should I try to deny them theirs?
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Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:15 am
Lumanny the Space Jew Remember when I told you guys about the time I toured a Cathedral and got so uncomfortable that I had to wear a kippah? Actually it's better to remove a kippah before entering a church, if you must enter a church for some reason. Better people should think that you're a non-Jew entering a church, than they should think that you're a Jew entering a church! I don't tell you this so you'll beat yourself up about an earlier action, but so that if you're ever made to go into a church in the future, you'll know what to do.
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Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:29 am
Divash Lumanny the Space Jew Remember when I told you guys about the time I toured a Cathedral and got so uncomfortable that I had to wear a kippah? Actually it's better to remove a kippah before entering a church, if you must enter a church for some reason. Better people should think that you're a non-Jew entering a church, than they should think that you're a Jew entering a church! I don't tell you this so you'll beat yourself up about an earlier action, but so that if you're ever made to go into a church in the future, you'll know what to do. Is that so? Well, I suppose I do understand the philosiphy behind the rule, but I fundamentally disagree with it. But if it's Law, it's Law. Or is it custom? Sounds more like custom. Just as well. Even though I actually put the kippah on after I was inside, but still.
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