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Not to be insulting, I think it's very cool that we let Pro-Choicers in as long as they play nice, but... I'm just wondering what's attracting all these Pro-Choicers to our guild. sweatdrop I mean, we aren't supposed to debate in here. That's what http://www.gaiaonline.com/guilds/index.php?guild_id=610 <--That guild's for.

So why?

I have no idea. It's like as if those calendars you get in November in church are suddenly being ordered out by Bhuddists. I suppose I have no reason to not let them in but it's a very tricky situation.

I'll let them inquire where they need to.

excuse me but I find that quite rude.
"They" is a generalized term that doesn't speak for each individual Pro-Choicer.
Maybe if you quoted a pro-choicer saying "well I'm here because I'm going to defend this territory of mine to speak" but that is still only one person and not "They" but simply one person.

"They feel a need to attack and defend their 'territory' "

Maybe one person does but that doesn't mean you can completely interpret every pro-choicer and state what we're doing here and in such a manner that you're doing.

Well, you're right that this isn't a debate guild. But if people like ka tana want to come in, spend time with us, learn our side, and not reject us completely, that's treating the pro-choice side with respect.

I think that says a lot about kindness. We're not trying to propagandize, we're trying to show that we're not religious anti-woman, anti-sex, nutcases who blow up clinics (which IS what a lot of pro-choice people think)

As I said, I'm not trying to be rude, and I have no problem with having Pro-Choicers here, I'm just wondering what is attracting the Pro-Choice side to join a Pro-Life group.

And it doesn't say not to act like an idiot, it says not to argue. There's a difference. Debate is an argument, thus it also says no debate. If we allowed Pro-Choice v. Pro-Life debate in here, I would understand why Pro-Choicers come here; As other people have said, the debate guild is dead and the ED is full of n00bs. But we don't.

Personally, I think that, if we really want well moderated debate, we should jump start the Debate guild, have moderators on both sides that are more active, and search more actively for members, rather then only advertising in either side's personal guilds. Because I can understand the desire for intelligent debate, but this isn't the place for it.

I'm sorry but I stand by my statement. We are a side who wants conventional abortions illegalized, while pro-choice wishes for the option to be open.

It's your territory. It's like king of the mountain. Abortions are legalized, meaning your king right now.

We are trying to "knock you down" by disproving your points and arguments.

I don't think we should go on a mad "kick people out" rampage. But WHY are we letting so many in? Like yeah, I agree with the getting both sides thing, and letting choicers see our arguements thing, and making them think about intelligent arguements thing. But it's getting kind of annoying going into a thread and not knowing if it's a choicer who posted it and I should get my debating boots on, or if it's a lifer and I should get my critical thinking hat.

And then of course if it's a lifer who posted I have to wear both my hat AND my boots because there's a new choicer in the guild who had something to add and I'm all like "Whoa."

What ever happened them the emmarsary dealy?

Actually, I have seen stupid Pro-Lifers in debate before; But they are rarely part of this guild.

It has happened... Though I am not going to name names. Even the guilty might be innocent by now.

Anyways, I like to think that for some of them it is to get away from that , but I'm pretty sure that isn't the reason for all of them.

For instance, I know there was a Pro-Choicer who hasn't posted in a while who was here specifically for that, and McPhee stayed here for a variation on that, but neither of them have started threads about how wrong we are, or for debate with us.